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CHICKENFOOT: Complete Album Details Revealed

Huge update from Blabbermouth.net:

CHICKENFOOT, the new rock supergroup comprised of drummer Chad Smith (Red Hot Chili Peppers), bassist Michael Anthony (ex-Van Halen), guitarist Joe Satriani and vocalist Sammy Hagar (ex-VanHalen), has announced the global release of its self-titled debut album. The CD will be made available by earMUSIC in Germany on Friday, June 5 and in the U.K. on Monday. June 8. The album will be released by Best Buy in the U.S. on Sunday, June 7.

“Chickenfoot” will be packaged in heat-sensitive artwork, which means when you put your hand on the CD inlay, photos of the band members will be revealed behind the CHICKENFOOT band logo.

“Chickenfoot” track listing:

01. Avenida Revolution
02. Soap on a Rope
03. Sexy Little Thing
04. Oh Yeah
05. Runnin’ Out
06. Get It Up
07. Down the Drain
08. My Kinda Girl
09. Learning to Fall
10. Turnin’ Left
11. Future in the Past

Hagar wasn’t looking to form a new group in his post-VAN HALEN career. “I really wasn’t looking to have a real band, but when I got involved with these guys, only a fool would say, ‘No, I’m not going to do this.’ The minute we started jamming it was obvious, like, ‘This is something that needs to be heard.’”

A great band is nothing without a great rhythm section, and CHICKENFOOT has one of the best in the two-man team of bassist Michael Anthony and drummer Chad Smith.

As a founding member (and fellow Rock and Roll Hall of Famer) of VAN HALEN, Anthony laid the bedrock for which guitar genius Eddie Van Halen could fly. More than that, he provided a signature style of background vocal that became an intrinsic part of that band. “A total fluke,” the good-natured bassist humbly asserts. “I was just doing what came naturally.”

Hagar sees Anthony‘s abilities differently. “Michael keeps the band going,” he says. “Listen, he’s never going to get the kind of credit he deserves — he played next to Eddie Van Halen. Hell, Jack Bruce didn’t get much credit compared to Eric Clapton — that’s just the nature of things. Mikey held down the fort, and he still does.”

Aiding Anthony in holding down the fort is Chad Smith, drummer for the RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS, who have, since Smith joined the group in the late Eighties, gone from cult faves to a worldwide force. Heretofore thought of as a “funk/alternative” drummer, Smith gets to rock hard with CHICKENFOOT, and the percussion explosion he creates might come as a surprise to those who only know of his work from tracks like “Under The Bridge”.

“The guy’s from Detroit, for God’s sake!” says Hagar. “He can play the hell out of funk, but he’s a rocker. He plays hard, man. You could put one mic in a room with Chad, and you can hear all the parts of his kit — he’s hard, but he’s balanced. The band wouldn’t exist without his groove.”

The members of CHICKENFOOT admit that the band came together almost by accident, a result of jams held at Hagar‘s club, Cabo Wabo Cantina, in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico.

“We were just having fun,” recalls Michael Anthony. “After Sammy and I left VAN HALEN, we’d get together with musicians, and certain people seemed to really gel. Chad came down and we got on well with him. Gradually, we started talking about doing something more serious, but we needed a guitarist. Somebody smokin’ — somebody who could take us to the Promised Land.”

Enter Satch, who hooked up with Hagar, Anthony and Smith and felt “an immediate connection unlike anything I’d ever experienced before.” To Satriani, who had almost abandoned his lifelong dream of being a part of a “big-time rock band,” here was his chance, and here were his bandmates. “After just a few songs, it became stunningly obvious that we shared an overall musical agenda,” he says. “The only question was could we make a great album?”

The band answered that question last fall when they hunkered down with the illustrious producer Andy Johns at George LucasSkywalker Studios and knocked out a batch of songs that sets a new standard for rock music in the new millennium.

From the thunderous, ominous opening strains of “Avenida Revolution” (detailing the bloody drug wars in Tijuana, in which Hagar makes his feelings come through his skin) to the album closer, the shimmering rock ballad “Future’s in the Past”, “Chickenfoot” is a firebomb of a record, the likes of which we haven’t heard in ages.

The band kicks and snorts their way through a passel of take-no-prisoners rockers like “Soap on a Rope”, “Sexy Little Thing”, “Oh Yeah” and “My Kind of Girl”.

“These are the kinds of songs I could never do on my own,” says Satriani. “I needed a band like this to make those songs come alive.”

The band explores mature themes on songs such as “Runnin’ Out”, about a world stretched to the breaking point to “Learning to Fall”, perhaps the most poignant love song Hagar has ever written lyrics for. As both a vocalist and songwriter, Hagar‘s intensity and forcefulness are on vivid display on “Chickenfoot”.

“I write what comes to mind,” the singer says. “I’m not bound by anything subject-wise. I’m inspired by the music. When I heard the music Joe was going for, it made me reach, it made me stretch. I think it made me sing in a way that I normally wouldn’t have done. We seem to have that kind of effect on each other.”

Satriani agrees. “People have this idea of what this band is about, or what Sammy Hagar is about as a lyricist and a vocalist,” he says. “The thing is that we manage to get each guy to up his game in a non-confrontational way. When I play with CHICKENFOOT, I find myself wanting to give them more all the time. I don’t hold anything back. I think the rest of the guys feel the same way.”

That Satriani unleashes sheets of shred magna is, of course, a given, but what’s interesting is, as individualistic and recognizable as his talents are — and this is true of all the players — they transform in a strange and beautiful way on “Chickenfoot”.

Likewise, Anthony and Smith, channel past heroes. For Anthony it’s ELECTRIC FLAG bassist Harvey Brooks. For Smith it’s ZEPPELIN‘s John Bonham. Together, they perform something of an astonishing balancing act, dispending performances that meet at the intersection of Heavy and Nimble. This is what a rhythm section does, drives the band in forceful, creative ways. Listen to CHICKENFOOT and you’ll hear what a true rhythm section sounds like.

“Chickenfoot”, which is already being hailed as the most intense rock ‘n’ roll album since LED ZEPPELIN‘s classic efforts, coincides with a European tour that will consist of outdoor festivals, including Montreaux, Switzerland, and Bospop, Holland, plus various intimate indoor rock shows, including the London O2 Shepherd’s Bush Empire on June 25.

Tickets for the London 02 Shepherd’s Bush Empire concert go on sale at 9:00 a.m. on Friday, March 27. This will be CHICKENFOOT‘s only UK date on the European tour.

CHICKENFOOT Non-USA tour dates:

Jun. 20 – Austria Nova Rock Festival
Jun. 23 – Cork, Ireland: Live At The Marquee
Jun. 25 – London Shepherd’s Bush Empire
Jun. 26 – Holland: Heerhugowaard
Jun. 28 – Belgium Graspop Metal Meeting Festival
Jun. 29 – Paris: Olympia
Jul. 01 – Madrid (venue to be confirmed)
Jul. 03 – Pistoia, Italy: Blues Festival
Jul. 04 – Montreux, Switzerland: Stravinski Hall
Jul. 05 – Udine, Italy: Lignano Sbbiadoro
Jul. 07 – Hamburg: Grosse Freiheit
Jul. 08 – Copenhagen: Vega
Jul. 10 – Kilafors, Sweden: Rockweekend Festival
Jul. 12 – Weert, Holland: Bospop Festival

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  • Pilskin

    Thanks for posting the ChickenFoot info. I’m always interested in what any-and-all former/current Halen members are doing.

    Rock & Roll!

  • http://www.pro-wave.com the scott man

    my only comment is why do we have to wait until June? The world will be a better place with each of having a Chickenfoot (cd of our own).

    Dang I’m stoked for this. This album will surely be the defining rock record of 2009 and another summer anthem set by Sammy.

    God bless the good ship Chickenfoot and all who sail on her.

  • Frank

    Great news!! Think i’m gonna pay them a visit at Bospop, can’t wait to check them out!!

    Frank, NL

  • Top Jimmy

    i’m so happy for michael anthony. for all the garbage he’s had to put up with he deserves to be happy and be in a real band again. this goes to show that if you take the high road and stay true to your friends and your fans, good things will eventually come to you.

  • Pete

    It is so good to have a new band to get excited about. The music sounds great, the boys clearly mesh well together, I am PSYCHED!

    And yeah, good on Mikey…not matter how poorly the guy was treated he never said anything remotely bitter. (Imagine working with your buddies, building one of the biggest bands in the world, and you have to learn from the internet that your buddy’s 17-year-old is getting your gig?)

    Enough of that…bring on CHICKENFOOT!!!!!!!

  • Julien

    So so happy to see them in Paris !
    Waitin’ for Van Halen now…

  • Aftershock

    “After Sammy and I left VAN HALEN … ”

    Whoa … did Mikey just admit that he LEFT the band?

    Probably not, but everybody likes to twist every word that comes out of Eddie’s mouth, so I guess we should take Mikey’s statement at face value, eh?

    I do think Mike is a class act and I wish him nothing but the best with this new project!

  • Pete

    AFTERSHOCK…I know things on the net or in print get interpreted a million different ways, but I think Mikey’s choice of words about saying he “left VH” was simply his way of referring to when his status as a member of VH changed.

    Mike has never one to come off bitter or “victimized”, and that’s why we love him. Had he said “when I got booted from/replaced/etc” it would not have been as classy or positive.

    Therefore, as you say people “twist Eddie’s words”, I wouldn’t twist Mikey’s words either. Eddie could learn a thing or two from Mikey when it comes to class and restraint, but hey…I digress…

  • http://vanhalennews anita shitner

    it sounds good.

  • Aftershock

    Hey, Pete, I know exactly where you’re coming from. I just think it’s kind of interesting how every one of Eddie’s statements is dissected and analyzed for hidden agendas and questioned …

    But Mike’s statement is curious on another level as well — in that he makes it sound like they left Van Halen together. So was that when they formed The Other Half — which, when you think about it, is what Eddie has said, that Mike was off playing in some other band — or did he and Sammy “leave” when it was announced that Wolfgang was the new bassist?

    And, if we are to believe all other published comments on the matter, there’s never even been any phone calls between Mike and Eddie, either to say that Mike was leaving or that Eddie was replacing him.

    None of this matters any more — my point is more along the lines of it is sad how this ended. That the relationship had disintegrated to the point that after 30 years of playing together and making the world’s greatest music, they couldn’t even share a phone call to pass the news along. That’s sad.

    That being said, I’m happy Mike gets to be a part of what should be an exciting new experience, and I’m glad that Eddie gets to play with his son and reunite with Roth. I wish we had had one final full reunion tour before this all happened. But we didn’t … and life goes on.

  • Mitch

    Can’t wait! Nobody records Rock albums anymore!

  • http://www.communitypainting.net dave

    Why aren’t they doing a US tour?

  • Joey

    love it!!!…when are they coming to the U.S.A.

  • iwannaberr

    If my band was taking an 11 year haitus, I’d go make some music with someone else too. He got punished by EVH just because he hung out with Sammy and played at the Cabo.

    Gonna be interesting when Wolfie decides he wants to make a name for himself. Ed will come begging for Mikey.

    If Eddie’s dad asked him to play accordion in his big band, do you think EVH would have been satisfied staying there and not forming THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN??

    Chickenfoot will rock!!!!

  • iwannaberr

    P.S. From what I’ve seen, Mikey holds no grudge against Eddie. He even wished him well and called him brother at the Rock N Roll Hall of fame induction – and that was after they brought Wolfie in to replace him.

    Hell, the rest of the guys couldn’t even show up, and Dave didn’t perform because he didn’t like Velvet Revolver or whatever.

  • Pete

    Hey Aftershock…I understand what you’re saying. However, if Mike had “left” to form The Other Half with Sammy, there would have been press about an album and tour, or at least, a press release.

    The Other Half I think was simply a convenient excuse for Eddie to boot the guy who was arguably the most likeable guy in any era of VH. The Other Half was simply an hour and a half’s nod each night to some great tunes, and I loved the fact it included a Dave tune too. VH’s music was always about fun, and they did a good job giving the fans a reason to celebrate everytime they took the stage.

    Honestly, I’m psyched about CF. But I hope Ed does rediscover some joy in his life, and maybe he’ll even rediscover some joy of making music. And if he’s able to do that, I hope he doesn’t incorporate character assasination about past members as part of promoting any potential new music, because I think that always takes some of the shine off of everything he does.

    Anyhoo…I’m psyched for the CF tour…they’ll be good and revved up by the time they tour North America!

  • Big J

    Sounds promising, hopefully better than the 2 songs that they have put out so far

  • Big Al

    Pete and Aftershock,

    Sam and Mike LEFT Van Halen to FORM Planet Us!

    I’ve been telling all you Michael Anthony LOVING BOZO’S this since 2002!!!!!

    Once Again! Michael Anthony made the biggest mistake in rock history!

  • M.Evans

    “already being hailed as the most intense rock ‘n’ roll album since LED ZEPPELIN’s classic efforts”?

    PUHLEEZ

  • http://michaelquinn.com.au Michael

    It’s a shame more artists don’t mix and match and play music with each other. Chickenfoot sounds awesome and I can’t wait to see reports of them playing and bringing up Flea and Anthony to jam out on some RHCP songs somewhere.

    Being “stuck” in the one group for 30 years would be very limiting for a true musician – they need to mix it up more like this.

    Hey – maybe Alex can go play for Smashing Pumpkins now? Got nothing better to do apparently.

  • http://tobigal scott

    mike and sam didn t make the big mistake the druck ed did !

  • Peedah

    “Chickenfoot”, which is already being hailed as the most intense rock ‘n’ roll album since LED ZEPPELIN’s classic efforts,

    BULLSH*T!!!

    WHO IN THE HELL SAID THIS? It’s note even OUT YET!!! Maybe it should be heard first!!!

  • Jor-L5150

    no big AL , mike anthony was ousted before that.

    - he was NOT playing bass on the 96 quasi-roth tracks for BOV1

    - he played very little bass ( and only after ed begrudgingly allowed it ) on VH3.

    - ed and sam played numerous times together while still techinically in the band

    - mike did not ” JOIN ” planet us , that was a one-off progect like ” high-maintanance ” ( sammy + metallica )

    - mike appeared on the sam and dave tour ( as did gary cherone ) because at the time van halen DID NOT EXIST , with no record deal , no singer and ” no news is good news ” for years on end.

    - he was told to give up his share of the VH trademark in exchange for being a bass-playing roadir in the 2004 Van hagar reunion- where ed announced wolfie would be in the band eventually.

    yet somehow mike “left” ? really ? sammy left and got invited back in 04 , dave left and got invited back in 07. and those were MUCH more acrimonious splits. ed’s excuse that ” mike joined another band ” was the most F*cking weak excuse the old b*st*ard ever uttered.

    i love all eras of van halen , and all alumni, but i cant pretend that mike deserved the disrespect he got . some people can.

  • RickieVanWhalen

    I can’t wait to hear satch coninue rip off EVH right in front of Haggar and Anthony! Those guys are probably so tone deaf they can’t hear it anyway.

  • Jor-L5150

    the sound of a broken record :

    ” this is a VAN HAAAAALLLLLEEEN site , so why are we talking about – ”

    -skip-

    ” this is a VAN HAAAAAALLLLEEEEN site so why are we talking about -”

    -skip-

    ” this is a VAN HAAAAALLLLEENNN site so why are we talking about – ”

    -skip-

    ” this is a VAN HAAAALLLLEEEENN site so why are we talking about – ”

    -skip-

    …….time for a new record- oh , wait heres one :

    CHICKENFOOT.

  • Jor-L5150

    andy johns at skywalker sound.

    damn thats some good production value.

  • ann

    DONT BE MISLEAD FOLKS, THE REAL VH IS COMING SOON..

  • Rocke

    Can’t wait!

  • MA=VH

    Too bad we have to wait until June to get the album; I’m looking forward to hearing more of their music.
    They better damn well come north of the 49th parallel too.

    MA=VH

  • ace5150

    Michael Anthony didn’t leave the band. His contract was up.

    Eddie and Alex made him sign a contract for the 2004 tour. This was the only way he could even be a part of VH for that tour.

    They made him a paid employee of VH INC. so they could screw him out of his fair share of the tour proceeds.

    In Eddie’s insane mind he probably thought he didn’t owe Mikey any explanation for his dismissal because after the tour he was no longer a paid employee.

    Eddie thinks him and Alex ARE Van Halen and everybody else is considered disposable.

  • TIM5150

    ed and al are van halen ace5150…..they do as they wish. please removed all percieved opinions of ed and or sam or dave, and remember why your on a vh site. because they are the real deal. sorry love ya mike but you were a part of a group that for the most part kicked dave out for doing a side project, you of all people should have known better. and chickenfoot will last for 1 record and 1 tour and thats it. they will have no reedeming value and will have no relivence(sp) . i’ll check it out and other things until we get some van halen….and if we dont i’ll continue to listen to what i have of them and continue to call them the best rock band ever. regardless if they put another thing out.

  • ROGER

    you are so right tim5150 this will be one cd one tour and if you figure the time line ,the wedding ,graduation.that would put out a new cd from vanhalen either next dec or early 10, that cd will be with best and greatest lineup vanhalen ever had,eddie,alex,mikey and the best rock voice sammy hagar, i just know vanhagar will re unite.!!!!yea baby

  • ace5150

    Who cares if it is one CD and one tour that’s a helluva lot more than were getting out of VH.

    Everybody keeps their fingers crossed and eats up Eddie’s lame excuses about marriage and the kid’s graduation.

    For chrisssakes the man has a recording studio in his backyard!

    Sammy went through a divorce, got remarried, and had two kids while he was with VH and it never slowed him down.

    I would be the first in line to buy a new VH album but after over a decade of frustration reality has to kick in sooner or later.

  • Garrett

    Geez…this place is turning into the “Chickenfoot Newsdesk”…c’mon Ed, Al and Dave (I know Wolf is ready to go) let’s lay down some new tunes!!!

  • TIM5150

    ACE REDROCKER, WHILE IT DIDNT SLOW HIM DOWN, I HOPE YOU WOULD AGREE THE CALIBER OF THE SONGWRITING INTO ANY HAGAR ALBUM PALES IN COMPARISON TO ANYTHING INCLUDING “3″ THAT ED HAS PUT OUT. I DONT EXPECT ED TO JUST PUT SOMETHING OUT TO PLEAZE US.

  • http://tobigal scott

    read the the of the page vh chickenfoot dave and sammy news mike is vh sammy is vh dave is vh at least mike and sam are doing something vh is done ed doesn t care about the fan so get over it you ed lovers!

  • ace5150

    Easy on the caps dude.

    It shouldn’t be too hard for Ed to make a quality album. All he has to do is reach into that massive library of music he keeps telling us about.

  • Skutch

    Ace, you are right that mike was salaried, however Mikey didn’t get screwed. If it didn’t like getting a salary for the 2004 tour (or any other time working for VH), he shouldn’t have signed the dotted line. He was hired to do a job for a specified amount. If you agree to it, you aren’t getting screwed. Anyway, I’m sure he made more than I do in 10 years of that tour. That’s the past. I’m glad he’s doing something where he’s appreciated and feels like a part. Good for him.

  • vhrocks

    Actually Mike’s status changed with Van Halen 3. If you remember there was a story where he said he only played bass on 4 tunes and was asked to sign a release form for all future VH royalties and signficantly reduce his percentage of any future record sales.

    That’s what happened. Eddie basically screwed him and said thanks for nothing these past 25+ years. Mike being the gentleman and good natured soul he is decided to take the high road, unlike Eddie. Eddie stated in several interviews ‘We never had a shreading bass player in VH, it was always Guitar and Drums (AKA ED AND ALEX) driving the rythm of the band.’ He stated that several times and that’s why I don’t care for Ed as a person. With friends like Ed, who needs an enemy. Of course this was when he was drinking and overdoing it so that definately had something to do with his mindset. The least he could do is reach out to Mike privately and appologize to him personally for any ill will. I’m sure the old VH fans who saw Mike’s departure as a stab in his back would see that as a positive.

  • TOP GUNslinger5150

    To Time5150,

    Amen brother!!! Van Halen FOREVER!!!

  • ace5150

    Skutch, if you were a FOUNDING member of a band and had been faithful to that band for over 25 years and were given the ultimatum of either signing a one tour contract or taking your bass and hitting the road, how would you feel?

    You are right. Mikey wasn’t forced into signing anything but that doesn’t make it right.

    I can even almost understand the way VH handled Dave and Sammy because there are a lot of strong personalities colliding but the way they treated Mikey was completely one-sided strong-armed bullying at its worst.

  • Jim W.

    To RickieVanWhalen,

    You obviously haven’t seen Satriani play. I agree there is influence there and some of his “tricks” are from the EVH playbook but Satch does things that I’m pretty sure Eddie could never do. He has taken (like all great guitarist) from the older players and used it as his base to advance. Go and watch some quality DVD of Satch playing. No way Eddie pulls some of that stuff off. Just for example. . . Last I checked Eddie doesn’t use the whammy bar to pull up above zero (impossible on his wolfgang guitars as the bridge is flat against the body). Satriani uses a full floating trem most the time. Not the only example but the first to come to mind. Watch a vid of Cool #9. Nothing like VH.

  • Jor-L5150

    ann says:

    March 25th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    DONT BE MISLEAD FOLKS, THE REAL VH IS COMING SOON

    Jor-L5150 says :

    believe it when we hear it.

  • Jor-L5150

    TIM5150 says:

    March 25th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
    ACE REDROCKER, WHILE IT DIDNT SLOW HIM DOWN, I HOPE YOU WOULD AGREE THE CALIBER OF THE SONGWRITING INTO ANY HAGAR ALBUM PALES IN COMPARISON TO ANYTHING INCLUDING “3? THAT ED HAS PUT OUT. I DONT EXPECT ED TO JUST PUT SOMETHING OUT TO PLEAZE US.

    Jor-L5150 says :

    compared to anything including 3 ?
    that was 1997. and MTM smoked VH3. ed has released NOTHING since.
    sammy 97-09 vs. ed 97-09 …..?
    uhm , sam wins by default .

    and you dont expect ed to release something ” just to please us ” ..? well , great. your wish is granted. because ED HAS NOT RELEASED ANYTHING TO PLEASE US.

  • TOP GUNslinger5150

    If you Sammy loving bozo’s think Van Halen are all nervous and think having to release a album over this Chickenfoot menu? Then you know nothing about Van Halen. Remember they we’re signed at the height of Disco, Soft Rock & Punk!!! They broke down all the doors, (Alex was a master of that, but that’s getting off subject!) Van Halen make and go by their own rules!!!

    There’s only 1 rule that will never change?

    VAN HALEN RULE!!!!

  • Dan

    Yea whatever TOP GUNslinger5150, I think people here are going by the track record of this band for the last decade. Hey, I hope for a new album too but I’m not holding my breath either. In the mean time give Sam and the boys some credit here for at least keeping the music going. They’re not out to outdo Van Halen, they never claimed to be. It’s the fans who keep stirring up this load of VH vs. Sam garbage. It’s new music, enjoy it and when VH finally puts out the goods then we will enjoy that too.

  • Rodney

    I can’t beleive u guys honestly think VH or Sammy sits and reads the garbage opinions people have. It’s funny when people actually speak like they are part of VH. It’s like your defending someone u never met….buying a cd doesn’t make u a voice for the band. I come here for news and im glad that we finally have a new record to look forward too. For all the people that defend VH……what have they done for u in the past 10 years. Lets enjoy some new music and hopefully the future brings some great VH tunes.

  • Al

    How about coming to Australia guys?!? You could come for a bit of a holiday. It’s a lot of fun here.

    Isn’t it exciting about all this Chickenfoot stuff? Although it would be nice not to have to wait until June for the CD.

    I’d love a cool Chickenfoot T-shirt. Any going around?

    Enough questions!
    Keep rockin’
    Al

  • Mirco

    Ich hau hier mal einen auf deutsch rein und sage
    “GEILOMAT, hab` mein Ticket für Hamburg in den Händen”
    Wird sicher der Kracher dieses Jahr. Erst Mötley, dann die Woche drauf Chickenfoot :-) ))

  • Pete

    NEW VH MUSIC: Even Ed said that Wolf had to graduate, he had to get married, and that he’d have to call Dave and see what happens from there. This from a guy that has released 3 songs in 10 years.

    If you seriously think ANYTHING is forthcoming then you’re ignoring the man himself, and you’re blind to the past 10 years of inactivity.

    Let’s face it, the next VH album is in Ed’s hands. I bet Dave would start tomorrow if you asked him. Al is off being “Reverend Al”, and Wolfie is still a teenager the last time I checked, and probably scared shitless about having to sing on record and be compared to Mikey yet again.

    To believe ANYTHING new from VH is on it’s way anytime sooner than 3-5 years is delusional, but hey, whatever gets you through the night I suppose.