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David Lee Roth Update

First, VHND can confirm that the Facebook and twitter pages for David Lee Roth that popped up last week are 100% official. Roth’s twitter post was simply “Get Ready for…”

Since Roth has chosen to set up his social networking pages during this “calm before the storm”, we’ve decided to address some lingering rumors regarding his status in the band since rejoining Van Halen. Because of the fact that Roth hasn’t publicly spoken since the Van Halen tour ended three years ago, some fans have speculated that he might be under some sort of “gag order” that’s in place until the entire band agrees that it’s time talk. (After all, he’s David Lee Roth! And Diamond Dave loves the press, right?!) The truth is, there is no such rule and that Dave has stayed silent by his own volition. This fits with his patterns in the past as well. Roth does not do widespread publicity if there is nothing yet to promote. People forget that even during Van Halen’s early years, Roth would escape to secluded jungles in South America or Papua New Guinea, or go hike some high peaks in the Himalayas for weeks at a time when there were breaks in Van Halen action. He likes to completely disappear from the public eye just as much as he loves the spotlight.

Also, David is an FULL member in the band Van Halen, and has been since he rejoined in 2006 for the 2007-2008 tour. As with all band partnerships, issues that affect the band are voted on…and in certain situations a single vote can veto. We just want to clarify that Dave has an equal vote – just as significant as Edward’s, Alex’s and Wolfgang’s.

Another recent rumor that we want to address stated that Eddie Van Halen was unsatisfied with some of Roth’s vocals on the upcoming album, and that supposedly Eddie forced Dave to rerecord some of them. There was never any truth to this rumor. In reality, the vocals were completed several months ago and Eddie, along with everyone else, was very satisfied with them. Also, being equal partners, it’s wrong to assume that under any circumstances Eddie Van Halen could “order” anyone in the band to do anything. This is a band with four equal members. They collaborate and they agree or disagree. As we said, Eddie was not unhappy with the vocals once completed, and even if he was he could not order Roth back to the studio.

We have heard from three insiders who have heard some or all of the album, and they all report that the vocals sound great. We hear that the band has been getting along just fine and that planning for next year’s album and tour is running smoothly.

It’s the calm before the storm, everyone!

  • jaaphalen

    @ Whispergirl-Rugged individualism is a good thing. Yes, you could tour my farm anytime-cuz my dairy rocks. I wish I had hung on to the milk mustache ad Ed and Al did years ago. Post it in my office. On a good day happy hour is strictly enforced @4:45pm-a couple of good micro-brews, yum. Lyrics-Dave will go down as one of the smartest rockers. Jim Morrison had photographic memory. John Lennon was very witty. Bowie, Jagger and even Sir Paul all very astute image and businesss minded and excellent writers and artists. I think he can write about the joy of life! What joy would that be? Second chances with a huge rock band (they won’t be playing cassinos). Write a song about the lack of good ones today. Actually, I think its going to be good with lots of energy and probably a tongue and cheek summary of what he sees going on today. Because he is very precient, very current and observant of all things around.

  • Halen High

    SPANKED says:
    “Considering Sammy is worth more than all of VH combined, I’d say he is smart enough to be an EMT.”

    Well there are many who have criticised him over the years for putting business before music. Seriously, being able to afford the best possible financial advice and management does not make you smart enough to be an EMT.

  • Sinatra Van Halen

    WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE OLD LYRIC?

    I always liked the sunny wit of “Beautiful Girls” — ‘course we gotta give credit to what probably inspired Roth:

    “Got my tweed pressed, got my best vest
    All I need now is the girl
    Got my striped tie, got my hopes high
    Got the time and the place and I got the rhythm
    Now, all I need’s the girl to go with’em.”

    From Gypsy, ’59. Lyrics by Stephen Sondheim. Sinatra did a version in ’67 and I’d bet Roth caught that as a kid.

    ‘Course there’s what Eddie added. Plus Mike on harmonies. Roth’s update of the idea really crystallized the California ease of Van Halen. I’ve long considered “Beautiful Girls” (demoed as “Bring On The Girls”) to be a perfect pop song.

  • =VH=OZ MAN

    @ Jimmy. Well said!! I too from the very beginning when Sam joined VH didn’t hav much against him. In fact I didn’t even know who Sammy Hagar was!! But it seems Sam’s ego & cockiness is getting the better of him. Its effecting is ability to write better than average music. Sam can forever a day gloat or brag about how much Joe is an amazing guitarist, better than EVH on & on, but the fact is he’ll never be able to make music like he did when he was in VH!!! Sam said on VH 1 That Metal Show that EVH would take a couple of days to come up with something for a guitar part/arrangement where as Joe would make it up there and then. Hey I got news for you Sam, the legendary George Harrison took days.weeks at a time to come up with his solo & rhythm parts for most of The Beatles songs, one being is the classic ‘Something’. I don’t care how it long it takes all that matters is if it has longevity or touches peoples emotions and that why EVH is the king!!!! EVH is so far ahead of everybody that its not even debatable. Heck even God wants to know how EVH does what he does because EVH is a guitar GOD!!!

  • DiamondDean

    @spanked

    So yr saying everyone who has more money then you is smarter???

    Just saying that im pretty sure that no other member of VAN HALEN wld have the intellect to be an EMT ( just because people rag on Dave being one) , cause obviously everyone here is a doctor etc

  • DiamondDean

    Questioning what DAVE will write about???? serious????

    Listen to YOUR FILTHY LITTLE MOUTH, daves best lyrics ever , far better then any VAN HALEN album full stop, please don’t even think of a HAGAR solo album ?? As a TRUE VAN HALEN ive listen to every album so id probably have a decent opinion.

    Wasnt SAMMY a boxer or something??? that wld explain a lot

    @DIMER , yeah it did come across a tool statement , what i was trying to get across ( while being pretty hammered) was that Dave will not have a problem in the world of writing lyrics , Dave doesnt have a limited vocabulary and life experiance like Hagar

  • http://none Dirty Duck

    Halen High:

    LOL!

    Right? Christ….

    Without a doubt, three of the worst songs to be on anyone’s setlist! ;)

  • SPANKED

    Sammy does not like “bagging” on EVH.

    If you actually were a fan of Hagar you would know that his frustration with Ed is that he has wasted away years of his life.

    Sammy is disappointed in Ed.

    And you havent heard any members of VH talk smack on Sammy or Mike, because they DONT TALK AT ALL.

    The last time Ed did, he called Mike “Sauce Sobelewski” and Hagar the “Little Red Worm.

    Why do you people keep putting Ed on a pedestal.

    He screwed over both Mike and Sam, not the other way around.

  • SPANKED

    “When Joe figures this out, he will walk. He is awesome and he is unique in his own right. Steve Vai went through this shit too. Come on, there is only one EDDIE. Stevie and Joe will tell you the same.”

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

    Where do you come up with this??

    Satch will walk because there is only one EDDIE?

    I am pretty sure Satch has never been or is threatened by EVH in any way. In fact, most professional musicians now think Joe is a better player.

    Furthermore, Vai left DLR because he didnt want to work with him anymore, stated in “Everybody Wants Some – The Van Halen Saga” that he left to work with Whitesnake.

    Stop revising history Jimmy.

  • Ed is God

    @ Kevin
    You are the fool. You paid to see all those shows you claimed sucked. Stay off of this site, and go listen to your Chickenshit!

  • Puka Dog

    @Sinatra Van Halen – Good point on the Gypsy lyrics. I always like the fun and humor of “Beautiful Girls”, and I don’t doubt Dave took inspiration from an old song. He was old school in his musical taste.

  • http://VHND Jimmy

    LOL I’m not revising history. Opinions! Also, Steve did get compared big-time. Roth loved it! I never said he walked because of comparions. Read carefully SPANKY

    I dont think Satch is threatened by Eddie, I never said that. I just think he will eventually get tired of the drama thats goes with Sam and HALEN and always having to deal with it. Watch.

    LOL, where do you come up with that most professional musicians think Joe is better? Do you talk to them and get their opinions? Most of them! Did you meet SAMMY? LOL, I’m sorry if my earlier post bothered you. Quite obvious I hit a nerve.

    I’m a musician and I tell you what. JOE AND STEVE are bad-ass. I do believe Ed is a better song-writer. I believe Joe and Steve are way more Technical. They sound like machines to me. There so good there like robots! If thats what you like, thats you man. I dont think there is a best, it’s what you like. I think Eddie is the best at what he does. I like Steve way better then Joe. It would have been awesome to see Steve with Chickenfoot. He will be Joe’s replacement…LOL.

    I love JEFF BECK. My favorites are PAGE, BECK, CLAPTON, HENDRIX, HALEN, TOWNSEND. All these guys to me are so special.

    REAL VAN HALEN FAN
    Jimmy

  • http://VHND Jimmy

    Damn, you got spanked!!!!

    Eddie Van Halen started a school. Nobody, I mean nobody has graduated.

    LOL

  • Halen High

    =VH=OZ MAN says:
    “I too from the very beginning when Sam joined VH didn’t hav much against him. In fact I didn’t even know who Sammy Hagar was!!”

    I’d never heard of him until I was listening to my car radio in 1986 and the DJ announced the new Van Halen song, Why Can’t This Be Love, with Sammy Hagar. So I didn’t have anything against him.

    Prior to joining Van Halen, Sammy had no profile in Australia at all, although he was on the Fast Times At Ridgemont High soundtrack so I suppose I must have heard the song but taken no notice of it.

  • Herb

    @ Ed is God,

    While I normally wouldn’t engage someone so maturity challenged, (see “chickenshit”)I can’t help but wonder what in the hell you mean by Sam profiting from others’ misery?

    I don’t give two shits about how you feel about him, just explain (in adult language) what on God’s green earth you could possibly be referring to.

  • Little Guitars Sing to Me

    @Jimmy: The way you feel about VH, The Who, and Zep is sorta the way I feel about guitarists like EVH and Satch. If push came to shove, I listen to Satch more, but then he’s put out a hell of a lot of music, including several double live albums. I tend to go through phases listening to Satch more for awhile, VH more for awhile, Vai (including w/ DLR) more (though not as often), etc. Also, I wouldn’t give up my Stevie Ray Vaughan or Kenny Wayne Shepherd, either, at least not for anything short of a family member’s health.

    On that topic, I lost my dad way too young, too, though I had him until I was a little past 30. (47 now.) I never played guitar until the last 10 years and am a total hack, but I still would have loved to share that with him, among many other things. (Like him getting to meet and know my wife; more camping trips in the Colorado mountains; just talking about the things that touch our lives, as everyone does here re music.)

    While I agree with you that Joe generally sounds more technical than EVH (if by that you mean that Eddie more often has a rawer sound), you haven’t sampled NEARLY a wide enough range of Joe’s music if you think he sounds like a machine. (Maybe I’m reading too much into that statement.)

    I’ve seen several others at the VHND suggest that Joe is technical to the point of not playing with passion. That’s a total crock. Try listening to the gentle beauty of “Love Thing” or the raw, fiery emotion of “Andalusia” (not to mention the latter’s sublime Spanish guitar intro), to give just two of MANY examples.

    That said, it may well be that EVH is a better songwriter — in the context of a guitar-driven rock band. Time may tell on that, since Joe hasn’t played that role so much. Or it may turn out that they’re simply very different. What I do know is that Joe is a SENSATIONAL songwriter for instrumental music.

    I totally agree with your resistance to saying there is a “best” between highly acclaimed guitarists like EVH, Satch, and Vai. (Can’t argue with your list of other favorite “special” guitarists, either.) It also makes total sense to me why each has their own legion of loyalists who prefer one over another. If EVH does it for you more so than a Satch or a Vai, rock on. In the end, we’re all so lucky to have lived through times when we are blessed by the fruits of these numerous and varied musical luminaries. I’m so, so, SO very thankful for the music I love!

  • Mel

    I see soundwave up and running in Oz for next year more full on line-up this time including System of a Down; Slipknot …. no VH. Hopefully VH will be able to get down here sometime next year though.

  • http://VHND Jimmy

    AMEN Little Guitars sing to me.

    I mean he is so good he is perfect. Not a dis, he is like a machine. I really believe he can play anything.

    They are totally different. We are very blessed.

    I believe knocking their work or how they work is absurd. Whether it be fans or famous musicians. I’ll speak to you in some other post, I’m going to start putting my two cents in more here.

    Jimmy

  • Guitar Slinger

    I can’t wait for the new CD. It should be great as usual with Eddie’s creativity. When it comes right down too it. I’m Eddies biggest fan before Sammy or DLR. I don’t care whos singing with Ed. As long as they can be themselves, They will shine.

  • =VH=OZ MAN

    @ Little Guitars Sing to Me.

    “it may well be that EVH is a better songwriter — in the context of a guitar-driven rock band. Time may tell on that, since Joe hasn’t played that role so much. Or it may turn out that they’re simply very different. What I do know is that Joe is a SENSATIONAL songwriter for instrumental music”.

    Well you nailed it!! EVH is the king & Joe writes great instrumental music for the guitar. Or should I say modern day porno music!! EVH tried it (instrumental porn music that is!) but then I did the unthinkable of listening to the music instead of watching 2 gorgeous lesbians go at it in a porn movie!! lol Can you imagine?!! Watching a porn yet EVH’s music blew away the chicks & got the highlights in the movie!!!! LMAO!!!

    Here’s the real deal, Van Halen are bigger than anything Chickenfoot, Sammy, the Cabo Wabo, Mikes sauce & sympathy, Joe, Vai & all the rest EVH has left in the dust have offered. I don’t give a shit about who’s got the better technique or the fasters shredder in the wild west of the sunset strip!!! EVH invented a whole new way to play the guitar & a whole new sound, he did the impossible some 30+ years ago when everyone & his dog was saying after Hendrix died that no one will ever revolutionised the guitar like Hendrix did. WRONG!!!!! An immigrant from Holland, the atomic punk from Pasedena who Erupted the world reinvented & revolutionised the guitar…his name is KING EDWARD VAN HALEN!!!!! Amen!!!

  • whispergirl

    @Sinatra VH: I thought you would say that!! Great song, without knowing Sinatra did that I always wondered if there was a Gypsy reference. I love the old stuff too. I don’t know my Sinatra as well as you do, but I know Mathis (my mom’s fav). And I played a Pat Boone song at my mom’s funeral (April Love). I found a note from my mom to my dad about that song; she never gave my dad the note. Such a special thing to find after she was gone. I don’t know her back story on that though; I wish I did.

    I really like the songs Roth did about women where he sounds like he longs for THEM. He certainly had his free availabilty of them so those lyrics make him classy. One of my favorite lyrics (and songs) too. Thanks for answering the question.

    Jaapalen: on “rugged individualism”. That’s one way to put it. But it was short-lived. My family’s torch passed to me in the summer of 1982 when I was 20, so I’ve been a full-fledged “grown up”, although reluctantly, since then. (You should have seen the look on my face one night at dinner shortly after I turned 20 when my dad chose me over my brother to help him shut down what was the business my dad owned that gave me my earlier “popularity”. I spent all summer with my dad working to midnight every day; I think we said about three words the entire time. He is the strongest/scariest/smartest person I ever knew and, even without any spoken words, that summer, at least in his mind, I became his equal. So in fairness to my dad, I suppose he knew what he was doing all along.)

    My 1982 VH concert was the Saturday before Thanksgiving; I had a test that Monday. I stayed up all Saturday night, then finally went to sleep on Sunday night before getting up to take that test on Monday. Tells you how good that “party” was. That night was a major repreive from an otherwise hard time. Hence the reason I said earlier I “sometimes” miss the old days.

    Heh, thanks again for saying I could be an inspiration. YOUR thoughts could be too.

    Dairy’s are the best, especially ROCKIN dairies. The happy hour 4:45 thing sounds good. Lately my days have all been going to 8:00 p.m.

    It’s fun to talk like this. I hope Dave actually does see these things and know that we fans would be very happy with the “intellectual” Dave that Sinatra VH knows, that I appreciate, and that you wish to see.

    Sorry about the late response. I did not turn the computer on this weekend.

  • Little Guitars Sing to Me

    @Jimmy: Love your posts! I get your “like a machine” characterization. Very different than the EVH trademark sound. My buddy who introduced me to the VHND finds that aspect of Joe’s playing remarkable, though this friend is also far and away a more avid EVH fan than a Satch fan. As I noted in my earlier post, I totally get that, too. Eddie is a unique musical phenomenon, no doubt.

    I happen to love both distinctive musical personalities, so I’m doubly blessed to have lived through these times! I agree, “knocking their work or how they work is absurd.” This isn’t Cardinals vs. Cubs; Yankees vs. Red Sox; Lakers vs. Celtics; Packers vs. Bears. It’s art. It’s creativity. It’s beauty. It’s joy. The point isn’t that EVH or Satch or whoever wins. We ALL win. Thank you to EVH, Satch, and all the rest whose music adds to my thankfulness to be alive and on this planet at this point in history!

  • Little Guitars Sing to Me

    @=VH=OZ MAN: I think your “modern day porno music” characterization was a compliment? Hell, I don’t know. Damn funny story, though.

    Love your enthusiasm re Van Halen and EVH! And I’m with you at least to some extent on the notion that you “don’t give a shit about who’s got the better technique or the fasters [sic] shredder in the wild west of the sunset strip.” Of course, technique and speed aren’t WORTHLESS. No one would have paid much attention to EVH if he didn’t have a hell of a lot of both. But they’re no substitute for innovation and the way a true artist like EVH expresses personality in his music.

    While Joe’s place in rock history is much less sensational and groundbreaking than is Eddie’s, I do want to reiterate my earlier message that both have touched my life deeply with their music, as have many others (like Steve Vai, Stevie Ray Vaughan, and Neil Peart, to name few).

    I have a special appreciation not only for EVH’s unfathomable talent and innovation, but also for the possibilities his groundbreaking music opened for others. Of course, that legacy would be greatly diminished if it weren’t for the subsequent emergence of other similarly unique talents, like Satch and Vai. After all, if you break ground and nothing follows, it’s just some displaced dirt, right? ;)

    Seriously, though, I agree with Jimmy that there’s no point in pitting EVH against Satch with respect to who’s the “better” guitarist or whose music is “better.” EVH’s legacy is more spectacular, but in the end this isn’t football or war. It’s art. No “side” wins; we ALL win – that is, unless we allow ourselves to be so provincial that “winning” takes priority over opening ourselves to the many and diverse sources of beauty, energy, and joy that surround us.

  • DOA

    I have a theory that the first single is a sped up cover of the Rare Earth/Temptations tune ‘Get Ready’. Perfect song for VH, I can hear it in my head. Feel free to shoot holes in this as I have no evidence or sources..

  • D.O.A.

    The above is not to be confused with D.O.A.

  • whispergirl

    @DOA

    Actually, I like your theory.

  • jeff adams

    D.O.A, how about the first tune on the new album being the song they started but didn’t finish on the Women and Childern album? Just a thought.

  • Panama Red

    @ whispergirl – like Halen High and Kayser Sozay, I too loved your comments about Orwell’s 1984 and your ideas about Dave’s writing. Great stuff. It’s kinda funny you said: “So many people stop in that book because it gets DEPRESSING.”
    It’s funny because a good friend of mine brought the movie over (years ago, I hadn’t read the book) and we watched it. And immediately after it was over I was pretty much cussing my friend out for making me watch it. It didn’t depress me as much as it pissed me off, I had to restrain myself from punching holes in the wall. F**king Big Brother! After he witnessed my reaction, he told me to never watch the movie “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” He told me I would have another freak out for sure, so I’ve never watched it.

    You are 100% right about us being at the very brink of those times now, that Orwell spoke of. But that’s a whole ‘nother very, very long discussion that would be better discussed in person.

    @ Halen High – Thanks for posting the info about Orwell’s favorite pub. It’s a little weird (and maddening) that his old hangout is in a country that now has CCTV cameras everywhere that cover almost every square inch of the outside area, and also the law abiding populace has been mostly disarmed from their firearms (and gun crimes have risen dramatically since the ban, btw – hasn’t Australia’s citizens been mostly disarmed too?)
    But anyway these kinds of topics would be better discussed in-depth face to face, there is so much to talk about. But still, I thought I would mention the correlation of Orwell’s premonitions and where his old hangout is located, apparently in the midst of the Big Brother movement. George Orwell knew what he was talking about, and sometimes it seems that the U.S. isn’t too far behind.
    I wish all of us crazy ass 5150′s here at VHND could get together once or twice a year and we could talk about all kinds of crazy shit, share stories and party our asses off.
    =VH=

  • jaaphalen

    @ whispergirl-hey its 4:45 and rainy better pop a cold one! Good hearing from you-keep em coming!

  • Halen High

    Hi Panama Red – no worries. Yes, the UK has plenty of CCTV cameras but I think that’s more an anti-terrorist measure than for the purpose of controlling their citizens. Regarding guns, I absolutely support gun control – we have very few gun related crimes in Australia, and I don’t like the idea of every second or third person walking around with a firearm.

  • whispergirl

    @jaapalen: I’m coming to Wisconsin so that I can pop a cold one at 4:45. Wisconsin should advertise itself as the funnest place in the world. Again, this long-day stuff is KILLING me. Everyone in my family needs money and I am putting what I am doing into the old family business-line. EVEERYTHING and EVEREYONE is on me right now. Even when I sleep, I cannot stay asleep. Hopefully, that will work and if it does…..
    Panama Red: I’m going to fly us all to Wisconsin, where, apparently it is more fun than anywhere, so that we can discuss 1984 in person. (We don’t want the VHND regulars to become considered subversives by the 1984 “thought police”, which if you ask me exist. As you, I could never get through the movie 1984 and certainly not One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. It’s easier to read a book. Plus, the mental pictures I get in my head are better than any movie.

    BTW, I have a title for them (VH). I’m not sure if it is in the movie, but in the book, the Big Brother bad guys (thought police) try to get the main character to say 2+2=5. He wont, until then end when he writes it on the table. (Or at least that’s my memory.). I write down sayings that I find inspirational on a drafting table in my study. (Some are even Dave’s lyrics!) One of them is 2+2 (mathmatical “not equal to” sybol) 5. What I have it there for is to symbolize that I will not conform. Since 1984 was their last VH (well real VH album, not counting whatever that was in 96), they could call it that….

    Panama Red: how’s the medical drama going?

  • whispergirl

    Panama Red and all: when we have our book discussion on 1984, we should add another book. It’s called Lullaby (by the dude who wrote Fight Club, another movie, can’t remember his name, cannot spell it anyway). (I have typos all over my posts, anyway.) That book is about a man who finds a lullaby that when you read it someone (the person you read it to or that you are thinking about) dies. The book is funny though, not depressing. It has a good take-off on 1984, noting that Big Brother did not “watch” us, rather, it “feed” us with constant controlled music and lack of silence. (That theme runs throughout the book, very effectively.) Look it up. It’s really good.

    Right now, taking up time in my moments of stress-induced insomnia, I am reading books I read once but forgot, or books that I should have read, but did not. I’m on Tolstoy’s Anna Karenina now (which I actually never read even though I started it many times). It’s known as a great love story (not one of those stupid grocery store/beach reads, I hate those) weighted down with tons of discussion about Russian socialism. It’s really long, and I have read only about 40 pages. I think this one will take me a while.

    Maybe I will re-read 1984. I’m sure at 49, I’ll have a different take then when I was 16 or 17 and read that. After the one I’m on now (supposedly a strong love story, I will see), I could read 1984 because the “love story” in 1984 was awful. The couple gets taken in and they say they will not “betray” each other, but when they are tortured, tell Big Brother’s enforcers to do their “thing” they fear the most (which is done in Room 101) to the other one. How depressing. As I said above, I read this when I was in high school, and beleived that would be impossible. (I’m a really loyal person and love very strongly.) I always wondered what a male take would be on that part.

    I saw on Youtube, although I cannot find it now, an interview where David Lee Roth said “VH is in Room 101″, showing that he read it (because Room 101 is at the end). Room 101 for the character: They do this torture — putting rats on the man’s face, which they don’t go through with, in Room 101 after a bunch of other torture things. He gets out of the Room 101 torture by saying to them “do it to her”. God awful. Room 101 (for him) is designed to make the man betray his lover which will make him submit to Big Brother and stop trying to resist the changes.

    I think VH was the savior of Room 101, Dave…..Perhaps VH was in there with us all being feed the “noise” the Lullaby book discusses. Here we go: “VH destroys Room 101″. Certainly, VH fans would never betray VH!!

    Should we invite Dave to our book discussion in Wisconsin?

    Is this geeky enough for you all?

  • jaaphalen

    @ Whispergirl-Wisconsin is my wifes home state. Janesville a great place indeed! Don’t work so hard you and I are pushing 50! Yikes. Speaking of books I am currently reading the “Hunger Games”. @ Halen High-I want to check out where you live, particularly the corral reefs.

  • jaaphalen

    @ Panama Red-84 was a tough movie to watch for me as well. Personally, I shied away from those types of books and movies because they would get to me. My sister lives in the Central Park area of NY and big bro is all over it-me? I just want to listen to Jump off VH 84 and have some pleasant thoughts in these crazy times. PS how are you feeling? All the best to you. @Halen High-I read your post on how Sammy wasn’t being played out in your neck of the woods (except for Heavy Metal sound track). I didn’t hear about Sammy until I was at a small college in Iowa. My roomie was from St. Louis and they listened to KSHE radio (late 70s early 80s). That station was ahead of its time. They played stuff I never heard here in Oregon at that time-Rory Gallagher,707,early Babies, Pat Travers and Sammy plus great concert recordings. What a time to listen to what would become todays classic rock.

  • Panama Red

    @ Halen High – Our views on the CCTV cameras and their purpose & the issue of Gun Control are at completely opposite ends of the spectrum. But you know what, when we all come here, it’s because of the love of music, specifically rock and roll, and even more specifically Van F**KING Halen!! :)
    So yeah, this isn’t really the place to have a debate regarding political beliefs or discuss our different ideologies. And that’s completely okay with me, because I usually come here to “get away” from everything else, and just concentrate for a few moments in the day on one thing – My Love for music and =VH=
    If everyone here got together, I bet the vast majority of us could have a Great F-ing time together regardless of our differences/belief systems.
    So I guess for the most part we should stick to talking about music here, because there just isn’t enough time to go off on other complicated, heavy subjects. Plus for the sake of others, ya’ll wouldn’t want me to go off on a tangent about some other stuff anyway. If you think my posts are long now, oh boy, they would get insane if I started discussing some other issues :D
    But no matter what our differences are, there will always be at least one thing that ALL of us will ALWAYS have in common — Our passion and enthusiasm for Van Halen, and if music can’t bring people together, nothing can.
    =VH=

    @ whispergirl – Yes, 2+2 will always equal 4. Don’t conform or submit your will, and keep an eye out for the thought police ;)
    As far as the medical stuff, I finally got an appt. for an MRI, but it’s not till November. It’s nice how they delay important medical procedures, huh? Geez, time is of the essence in my mind, but whatever, hopefully everything will work out. Thanks for your concern, I hope you are doing well.

    Fight Club was great, I might have to check out Lullaby.

    “Should we invite Dave to our book discussion in Wisconsin?”
    Yes
    “Is this geeky enough for you all?”
    Hey remember, a few of us were talking about Star Wars here recently, so no, it’s not too geeky ;)
    Hey whispergirl, I know what it’s like to have insomnia. I’ve been an insomniac for about 23 years and posting here at VHND is one of the things I do when I am having a particularly bad spell. So at least it gives you something to write about that you enjoy thinking of. If I’m feeling funky with insomnia, sometimes it makes me feel a little less funky to come here and think about VH.

  • Halen High

    @ jaaphalen – Queensland is the place for coral reefs. I used to live up there. Now I live in my hometown of Adelaide. You do not want to go swimming here – South Australia is the worldwide capital of the great white nation. Some of the scenes in Jaws (1975) were filmed here and that’s when they were an endangered species. They have been protected for almost 20 years (which I support) and their numbers are through the roof!

    I only surf now when on holidays in Queensland.

    @ Panama Red – how are you mate?

  • whispergirl

    @jaapalen: okay, not Wisconsin then, Oregon. (For our happy hour book discussion).

    @Panama Red to Halen High. I’m not discussing the political aspects. There are never clear answers to that. I’m noting the parallels to the music (lack of conformity, etc.) Remember 2+2 always equals 4.

    I hope your MRI goes well. I don’t know why they delay procedures either, but they do.

    on geeky, I saw that discussion. It was fun. Read Lullaby; it has a drawing of an upside down bird on the cover. Even that is funny. (It has a dark side, with one really off place, but other than that funny.) What is good though is that we all seem to read books. Check it out: VH fans are in fact well-read and smart. Just goes to show you, stereotypes of rock fans are completely wrong. I think Dave would like that even if he does not come to my future planned book discussion in Wisconsin (or now apparently) Oregon (because it needs to have Jaapalen’s happy hour.

    @Jaapalen: right now I have to work hard. I’m going to party soon though

  • jaaphalen

    @ Halen High-Thanks for the info! I would love to check it all out. The other country I want to see in my ‘oh so abundant free time’ is Holland. My parents immigrated from there in the late 50s to Southern Ca. I have over half of my extended family all over the Netherlands. @ Whispergirl-What kind of work are we talking about here? Your making this dairyfarmer feel a little bit lazy. Take care.

  • whispergirl

    @Panama Red:

    Your posts are not long, mine are. And all these posts at the end of a thread are long. That’s when it gets fun.

    Next time I’m awake at 3:00 a.m., I going to post to you — and make sure it’s particularly silly. Well almost every night I wake up then, so (to quote Dave)get ready….

  • whispergirl

    @jaaphalen:

    I made a response to your question about my type of work, but it had an off-color comment, so here is another try. I could not re-do this earlier because I lost my phone line from Friday until now, so I do not know if you will actually see this.

    First, how can a dairy farmer be lazy? I have the greatest respect for farmers, and in general, men who know how to do things like that. You all are my heros!

    My work. I always fear anwsering that question because people tend to become the adjectives that they are: their work, their status as a certain gender, mother, father, brother, etc. And everyone is a lot of things together. There was a day when I was doing laundry in my co-ed dorm in college. A particularly annoying young male freshman told me he was pre-law. At that time, I was a geology major. He seemed like he had a goal. And goals were important to me too, plus that would give me something to do with my intensity (some reason to make good grades). So then, I said I too will go to law school. I was pretty, although not pretty enough to be considered a pretty girl (again with the adjectives that define us), so he just laughed at me. But I did go to law school. Not so much intending to be a lawyer, but to go. And became a lawyer I did, and I did it well. (Many people fear us though, so I don’t often admit it.) For the past few years, I have mostly concentrated on running a real estate business (as a COO/inhouse counsel for someone else), but the actual owner has not been fair. So recently, I saw another lawyer with whom I worked in the 90s and I joined him. I still have to finish certain things from my other affiliation, so I am trying to wrap that up too at the same time as impress the folks at the new place. I have too much work everywhere. Also, for about 1 year, I have been involved in an equipment business with my brother — the most talented person in the world who, as I guess, is like you in that he is a man who can do lots of hands-on things. The equipment relates to a vison I have. Plus, I would like to write a book. (I have the outline and the first chapter done.) Oh, and for the past two years, I have let my own life become a bit of a mess. So with all of that, I am in a transition period now, with way more going on than I can do. It’s as if I am 18 again, making all the same decisions over again.

  • jason ungar

    I was 14 in 1985 and remember the day they broke up like it was yesterday. It was like when the space shuttle blew up or something, I recall exactly where I was when I found out, who I was with etc. I admit I cried…Van Halen was my first record I ever bought on my own (Diver Down) and then I bought all the other records a week later and waited for 1984 to come out. 1984 was my first ever concert. I admit to buying 5150 thru balance and also admit that those records are mostly un-listenable to me now. I can’t stand Hagar, no offense to you Van Hagar fans. And I don’t mean the person I mean the lyrics and his singing. (I did always see them live up thru the FUCK tour when I saw them in Sacramento front row with Alice in Chains (they filmed the video for top of the world there.) I saw the Roth tour in Vegas at Tiger Jam. Front Row. I am so waiting for this, I just hope they deliver. I admit to being worried about the quality. I don’t want a nostalgia act. I want the mighty Van Halen.

  • Darrell Shipman

    How about a little something to tie us hardcore fans who have been waiting in the desert for years on this? Some short audio clips…song titles…something??? PLEASE!!! lol Im so ready its not even funny, cmon guys just put it out already, I have no doubt its going to be amazing. Nuno Bettencourt said it was fantastic, and I dont think Nuno would say that if it werent. Yessss….

  • David Magen

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