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Can any one album truly be flawless?

From  Crawdaddy.com:

The Weakest Cut: Van Halen

by: James Greene Jr.

Our musical heritage is littered with albums deemed “classic” and “essential.” Yet can any one album, even the most highly-touted or beloved, truly be flawless? I say no. Welcome to The Weakest Cut, a weekly feature in which the least important, interesting, cohesive, or artistically integral song on a specific album will be singled out and discussed at length.

In his all-encompassing Consumer Guide, Robert Christgau hilariously describes Van Halen’s first record as “music [that] belongs on an air craft carrier.” Methinks the Dean was trying to be dismissive, but he really hit the nail on the head. For only a vehicle as massive and as steady as an aircraft carrier could ever hope to support the weighty, dynamic sounds of party metal’s ultimate foursome. Sure, you could try to carry Van Halen via helicopter, but unpredictable wind patterns would surely upset the vehicle’s ability to safely ferry the bombastic music of this Pasadena quartet from point A to point B.

I don’t think anyone’s going to argue that the guitar is not the MVP of Van Halen. Yes, the sum is basically greater than the individual parts on nearly every track, from the deliberate drunken waltz of “Runnin’ With The Devil” to the searing rant that is “Ain’t Talkin’ Bout Love”, right on through the show-stopping acoustic fake-out known as “Ice Cream Man.” There is surely no denying the power of David Lee Roth as a front man, or how Alex Van Halen plays those drums with that perfect rock ‘n’ metal feel (it’s not a party without some of Alex’s excellent cymbal wash), or Michael Anthony’s invaluable backup vocals and bass fingering. YET, yet, Van Halen would not have risen much higher than Blue Oyster Cult in the hard-rock canon had it not been for Eddie’s ridonkulous six-string pyrotechnics.

Honestly, can the impact of “Eruption” be accurately measured on any red-blooded American teenage male the first time they hear it? It’s so utterly mind-melting. Absolutely the definitive guitar solo of the post-Beatle era. That’s what’s so amazing—it’s just a guitar solo, but Eddie pulls a rainbow of vibrant colors out of his ass with the screeching and the skronking and the bending and the sweeping and—oh, those final hammer-ons! That’s the sound of the vortex that separates classical music and heavy-metal being eradicated. Mozart’s maggot-infested Viennese brain exploded the minute Eddie laid that to tape.

For me, “Eruption” will always represent and reflect the turbulence I felt in the ninth grade over my first serious crush. All that noise is what I was feeling inside every day as I sat mere feet away from her in Politics/World History. She was like some kind of Sumerian goddess I couldn’t even bring myself to look at with my peasant eyes because it would be disrespectful. Every time she took two seconds to look at or talk to me (or, god forbid, flash that million dollar smile), I’d hear those final “Eruption” hammer-ons reverberating through my head. The glory, the pain! I was trapped in a glass cage of emotion perfectly outlined by Eddie Van Halen’s fret molesting.

But I digress. Van Halen is a pretty unfuckwithable record from start to finish, rising to several occasions just when you think the fellas are out of steam. I must admit, though, I’ve never been big on “Little Dreamer”, mainly because the opening riff is an awful stuttering Rick Springfield fart that only reminds me of dirty decaying snow mounds (brown from a mixture of passing car exhaust and decomposing autumn leaves) and the blanket of grey that hung in our Connecticut sky from November until mid-March when I was usually trapped in the house listening to this cassette. It’s also pretty depressing subject-wise. “Little Dreamer” is about… what, a friend of DLR’s who’s down on their luck? Way to make me frowny faced, Van Halen. It’s mainly that opening riff, though. It’s so devoid of life and texture.

Thankfully, Van Halen bounces back with “Ice Cream Man” and the ballistic closer “On Fire.” “On Fire” seems to contain all the awesome guitar shit EVH couldn’t cram in anywhere else on the album, and amazingly, it all comes together for a real kick-ass tune. If this tune doesn’t make you wanna lift weights or punch something or whip it out at church, consult your doctor immediately. You may have a terminal case of the Mondays.

By the way, I’m no expert on this, but I feel like the B-52’s “appropriated” the bridge riff heard in “On Fire” for their beach-going smash “Rock Lobster”. That’s not a complaint—I wouldn’t change a damn thing about “Rock Lobster”, it’s an awesome song—just more of an observation. Guitar experts, please let me know if I’m off here by a gross series of notes.

  • Fonso Sanabria

    Say what ?!…..I blast this album daily driving to & from work AND ALL points in between, BAY-BEE ! “animal magnetism combined with sensetivity…”

  • chris b.

    I would like to see what this writer thinks of Led Zep 4. What’s the weakest track there?

  • Panama Red

    My answer to the title of this article is YES! The other album that pops in my head immediately alongside VH1 is just as obvious of a choice : Dark Side of the Moon, which is an astonishing piece of work, a true masterpiece. I could list a few other albums that I think are flawless but those two are the most obvious.

    So many great posts on this thread. Too many too mention, I wish the comment section had “like” & “dislike” buttons to click on ‘cause sometimes I really want to give people a nod for posting really good comments but there are to many here to mention by name.
    Sometimes the comments from fellow VH fans can be just as entertaining to read as the news stories, sometimes even more so.
    @ Randy- good post.

    @Jeff Adams – Niiiice. One of the coolest things about VH is that not only is VH the best rock band ever but we all have good memories associated with their songs.

    @ freddiegirl – Great post, Ha Ha. I dug your Bruce Lee and Steve Vai analogy. Nobody will ever touch the Dragon and I also agree with you about Steve Vai.
    As skillful and technically impressive some famous guitarists are, Eddie possesses something more. The way he plays is masterful but you can also hear his soul in his sound. I think it sets him apart from a lot of other guitarists who may play faster or possibly more technically. I’ll take soul and unpredictability over speed and robotic precision any day. Plus his sound/tone is just so much better sounding than most other guitarists.
    But anyway, freddiegirl I enjoyed your post along with many others here.

    If I were stranded on an island and could only take three albums with me VH1 would be one of them. It’s about as flawless and perfect as they come. I think 50 years from now it will still be thought of that way, maybe even more so.

    I love “Little Dreamer.” I like the guitar intro, lyrics, Dave’s singing, the chorus/background singing and the overall feel to it, everything about it really. I obviously disagree with the guy who wrote the article about that track. I like everything about the song that the guy didn’t like about it. I also thought it was kinda weird how he was critical about what the song was about. He’s upset that it made him “frowny-faced.” Maybe hard rock is a little too much for this guy to handle, sheesh. Maybe he should just stick with “Rainbow Connection” or “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” or that song from “Annie”-”Tomorrow” ??

    But anyway, the only song I occasionally skip over on VH1 is Jaimie’s Cryin’ and I think it’s only because the radio has played the crap out of that song for so long. I’ve heard it a gazillion times more than most other VH songs and I probably also skip it ‘cause it’s not as heavy as most of the other songs on the album. It’s got a little bit of a different pace and vibe than the rest of the album. It kinda seems a little out of place to me, breaks up the flow a little, like it’s more of a radio friendly “single.” (Which was good for VH, it’s still a great classic VH song that brings back good memories, I’ve just heard it sooooo much on the radio.)
    VH1 is pretty much perfect though and I would have to say as hard as it is for me to pick a fav VH album, VH1 has gotta be it. It’s so damn raw and heavy.
    They were Mighty Gods! Unmatched by anyone back then.

  • freddiegirl

    Weakest track on Led Zep 4 is ‘Stairway to Heaven’. Not necessarily because it’s bad, it’s a great track with a lot of different tempo changes but…..of all of Zep’s classic tunes that’s the one I am the most tired of and the one I don’t ever need to hear again; this is coming from a big Zep fan. Give me ‘In my Time of Dying’, Gallow’s Pole, or ‘For Your Life’ any day.

    Atomic Pete….thanks! I’ve got the classic red high tops; you? :D

    I went and listened to ‘Little Dreamer’ again, it is a great track but it still remains the weakest track on VH1 for me. But…most of the weakest of the DLR-era VH tracks are still much better than most if not all of what’s out there. Still a cool track though.

  • Ryan

    In my opinion, there are no weak tracks on Led Zeppelin IV. I can listen to that all the way through without skipping any tracks. The same with Appetite for Destruction.

  • Bluesbro

    I love Little Dreamer more than a small handful of other songs on this album. It is music, and thus subjective to every person. If this person gets paid to review, then no worries. LD kicks ASS though. Dave sounds soulful to the max on this song. It is more vocal highlights than guitar, I will agree with that.

  • -=randomRc=-

    This guy is from Mars… I don’t think.anyone would argue the merits of Big Bad Bill (is sweet William now). The world would be a somewhat lesser place without Litttle Dreamer IMO.
    -=rc=-

  • Roing

    I stopped reading as soon as the nonword redonkulous jumped out at me.

  • scottt

    Critics. There is no weakest track. How many of you have kids? There is no weakest kid. Gimme a break! Ha!

  • http://VHND HIKER MAN

    ALL VAN HALEN CDS HAVE SOME DIFFERANT MUSIC ON THEM. I LIKE ALL OF THERE STUFF DEPENDING ON WHATS GOING ON, SOME TIMES VH3 IS PLAYING, OTHER TIMES ITS STUFF FROM THE DLR YEARS AND OTHER TIMES THE VAN HAGAR STUFF.

  • http://vhnd.com 51yr old fan

    I guess I’m one of the few people here who doesn’t dissect songs. If it sounds good and I like it thats all I need. And I think this album IS flawless.

  • Dave

    Little Dreamer was not the worst song off of that LP…..that title would go to Feel Your Love Tonight, which sounds like a Loverboy leftover at best….

  • freddiegirl

    Ryan….I feel that way about Physical Graffit; my fav Zep disk. It’s got everything from ‘Ten Years Gone’ to ‘Custard Pie’…and of course, ‘In my Time of Dying’. Agreed that music is subjective. As tired as I am of ‘Stairway to Heaven’, I can still listen to ‘Jamie’s Cryin’ although I understand why others might be tired of it. It’s interesting to read why people like different artists and songs.

    Thanks Panama Red…you’re right; Bruce was the man. Watched ‘Enter the Dragon’ last night for what has to be the millionth time!

  • Diamond Dean

    i think 4 sticks on led zep 4 is the weakest track , dont like it much at all

  • Atomic Pete

    @ SCAR.
    Putz of the month. Love it man!
    I hope you choose someone every month.

    @ freddiegirl
    I have the B/W low riders.They were out of the red high tops
    at the time I ordered and I couldn’t wait.Will get the
    reds at some point though.

  • Ryan

    freddiegirl…

    Physical Graffiti is my favorite Zeppelin album too. I agree with you 100%.

    Diamond Dean…

    I respect your opinion, I just thought it was funny you said that, I was talking to my friend about how much I love Four Sticks today. haha

  • R A 812

    Off the subject, but someone above mentioned Aerosmith. I saw their show last night in Oakland. Sammy opened up and Joe Satriani came out and played a Chickenfoot song with him. Aerosmith was fuckin AWESOME! My wife caught Steven Tylers Harmonica he chucked into the crowd. If you have never seen Aerosmith, try to check out this tour. They played for over 2 hours and Sammy played for a full hour as well. The sound was great.

  • freddiegirl

    Atomic Pete..heh! I wanted the B&W ones but they didn’t have my size; so I went with the red ones. Would love to get the ones you have when my size is available again.

    Ryan…I love Four Sticks as well… ;)

    Scottt….Hugs just cuz.. :D

  • Randy

    freddiegirl, I can tell that you understand, and also Tim, when he said some are missing the point. One, just to choose a weakest cut, and the other, to agree that “Little Dreamer” is the weakest cut is not to say it’s a weak song. I personally love the song on it’s own, but especially as part of the whole. A lot of the rest of the record is like flying on an airplane by holding on to the wing. Maybe the relaxed feeling of “Little Dreamer” is more of a negative influence on some of our opinions than we realize and that’s why we put it at the bottom. Still, a great song with a rightful place on the record.

    panama red, your point about “Jamie’s Cryin’” is interesting because it points out how opinions are shaped by the passage of time as opposed to reviewing this album as new. That’s not to say your opinion would be different if it was new, but already having the album as part of the soundtrack to our lives does make a difference, yeah? Everyone can probably attach a certain song to a certain experience and over time you can tire of a song you used to love, so that also has influence. Sorry if I’m getting too analytical, but hey, my favorite subject!

    Even Eddie would have an opinion of the weakest cut (jump in Ed, we’d love to see it!). Historically, I’d guess he would say “Ain’t Talkin’ ’bout Love” because I understand he didn’t even want to present it to the rest of the band as he felt it was too simple or something. He might have a different opinion now, since the song has become such a fan classic.

    How do I label the weakest song on what is probably my favorite album of all time? (Oops, did I say probably?) Maybe the commentary would be going differently if the article was titled “The Least Awesome Cut”.

  • Panama Red

    @freddiegirl – I have been a Huuuuuge Bruce Lee fan for most of my life. He inspired me (along with millions of other people, I’m sure) to get into martial arts. I have his books and of course, his movies. I never grow tired of watching them. Can you imagine what all he would’ve done and accomplished if he would have lived? (Same goes for Brandon Lee-his career was about to explode big time)
    Bruce Lee would have become an Amazing director, and he was the best fight-scene choreographer I’ve ever seen. Think of all the movies he would have wrote/directed and starred in. Such a hugs loss. He will continue to inspire people until the end of times.
    On a side note, I thought it was really cool how Quentin Tarantino honored him in his “Kill Bill” movie by having Uma Thurman’s character wear a Bruce Lee “Game of Death” inspired motorcycle jumpsuit. That was the coolest looking motorcycle gear I’ve ever seen.
    One more thing, If you haven’t seen the documentary “Bruce Lee: A Warrior’s Journey” see it or buy it. It’s the best documentary on Bruce Lee I’ve seen. It’s got recovered scenes from “Game of Death”, the complete fight sequences when Bruce Lee is going up the tower of death pagoda and has to fight a new opponent on each level. Awesome!!
    I rented it on netflix but I heard that that documentary is included in a special edition of Enter the Dragon, if it is I’m going to buy that special edition. I gotta go look for that soon.

    freddiegirl – By the way, vanhalenstore.com didn’t have my wife’s size in the low top black and white striped shoes either but evhgear.com had them in stock. Maybe try there if you haven’t already, Good Luck.

    @Randy -I don’t think you are being too analytical. I enjoy reading your posts, they are interesting and intelligent. I also agree with you about this story needing to be titled “The Least Awesome Cut.” Good one, that makes more sense and I think would resonate better with us hardcore VH fans.

  • scottt

    Alright freddiegirl, you scored points with me again,lol. Bruce Lee is my other hero(fists of fury-hell yeah), and was just watching the zep dvd the other day..love PG, especially the Rover, Wanton, and Dying. Check out the VH version of the Rover from the club days on youtube if you haven’t yet. Page was/is the riffmeister! Hugz back..’be water my friend’..;)..(goes off to work on the Rover solo)

  • Don

    Randy,

    Eddie has always said his least favorite song off of VH1 is Ice Cream Man. He never cared much for Dave’s intro: “it’s not blues, it’s just jive…although I don’t mind the guitar solo…”

    Eddie’s favorite songs on VH1 are ATBL and Eruption. Just check out the tracks on Best of VH volume 1.

    I tend to agree with Eddie. ICM is kind of the low point for me on VH1 although the solo is mind blowing. Little Dreamer is a good song with plenty of solid guitar work and great harmonies.

  • freddiegirl

    Randy…yes, that’s exactly how I feel; Little Dreamer is a great track but as a whole it does feel like the weakest although maybe that’s not a good word. I like your analogy about riding an airplane by holding onto the wing..Little Dreamer is a good breather/break taken in that context…;)

    Panama Red…thanks! I’ll check that out and see if I can’t get another pair… :) And yes, looove Bruce Lee. I explained once to my BF that Eddie Van Halen was my Bruce Lee (he’s also a huge fan; Lee had a profound impact on his life just as EVH had one on mine) a comparison he got instatly. He once asked me why Yngvie Malmsteen was so looked down upon and Eddie was so exalted and aside from Eddie’s obvious superior songwriting abilities I said…”Yngvie Malmsteen is to Eddie Van Halen what Steven Segal is to Bruce.” He got it instantly.

    Scottt…”You put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; you put water in a teapot it becomes the teapot; water twists, flows and crashes; be formless, be like water” ;) Something like that! Hugs!

    Panama Red and Scottt…have either of you guys watched the History Channel’s awesome documentary ‘How Bruce Lee Changed the World?” It’s really interesting; Lee’s contribution to pop culture and the impact he made on so many future artists from rap muscians to other martial artists and fitness culture in general is immense. He really was a minor prophet!

  • scottt

    Haha..yeah, saw it, very cool. Out of the newer dudes I like Tony Jaa. He’s badass. Rock on!

  • Phillip McAverty

    I’m surprised that ‘Big Trouble’ never made it onto a Van Halen album.

  • Roth Zealot 78

    The author is a retard for calling “Little Dreamer” devoid of life and texture — it’s got classic Van Halen smeared all over it! From Eddie’s soulful solo to Mike Anthony’s signature vocals to Dave’s insightful lyrics……this is a tune that definitely belongs on such a legendary album like “VH 1″. Besides, I always liked it because it gave me a breather after getting my ass kicked by super-charged anthems like ATBL and On Fire that come at you at 900 MPH.

    The idiot who wrote this article is so out of touch about Van Halen legacy. He reminds me of that MTV nitwit who asked a few years back — “Why is Van Halen getting inducted into the Rock ‘N Roll Hall of Fame?” Fucking clueless morons…..

  • Randy

    Don, thank you for the correction. While I consider myself a knowledgeable fan, my memory doesn’t always serve me well as to what was written or said! Just typed the first thing that came to mind. However, the point about “Ice Cream Man” does ring a bell, now that you mention it. It’s a shame though, I have to disagree with both you and Eddie. The basic blues riff was never, and never will be, attacked the same way again. Also, the contrast between Dave’s and Eddie’s parts makes the song special. I still get that cool anticipation the moment Dave finishes his acoustic part and you know that bomb’s about to go off. Magic. Good call mentioning the solo, though. It makes me want to think of a more powerful term than mind blowing, but I guess I can settle for that! Suffice it to say that I love all the songs for one reason or another.

    freddiegirl, I also like your EVH/Bruce Lee analogy, but just for chuckles, you missed an obvious tie-in. “You put water in a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. You play Van Halen next to the water and it twists, flows and crashes! Be like water!”

    panama red, thank you for your kind words relating to my posts as I’m actually a newbie. It’s off subject, but this article is only my second go at commenting on the internet, ever. The first was on the Guitar Hero preview when I saw that Michael Anthony was left out of the “classic” images (though I don’t care about Guitar Hero, I didn’t like them rewriting history). Although I joined in because I couldn’t resist based on the subject matter, I do think there is a great camaraderie here because of our love for the band. So many internet commentaries become huge unrelated pissing matches between strangers (which can be entertaining in it’s own right, but pointless), but it’s nice to read interesting perspectives on a favorite subject, as this one has been. Let’s just be thankful he didn’t write about the “strongest” cut on Van Halen 3!

  • Diamond Dean

    This is probably the most interesting thread for a long long time , yes its great to have a differant opinion , which makes this whole thing so entertaining.

    A friends fave VH song is IN N OUT , which i cant stand at all, but it was the first song he heard of theirs n it stuck .

    Gees wld it be really the same if Dave came out 4 the first encore and played little dreamer???? Ice cream man is classic Dave , just like Dancing in the streets , its great , but Eddie doesnt like that , im sure Dave doesnt like A YEAR TO THE DAY , BIG FAT MONEY or HOW MANY SAY I, TRUST ME THERES A HELL OF A LOT MORE PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE THOSE SONGS , !!

    See someone said AEROSMITH , i hated the concert, they played the first 5 songs off PUMP in order , boring !! I felt VH got the same way with the f.u.c.k tour ,

    Its just differant opinions , but if u really think one band hasnt made a dud of a song yr delusional

  • Diamond Dean

    VH left a lot of great songs off VH 1 which were a better song then little dreamer , gees BIG TROUBLE , YOUNG N WILD , D.O.A ACT LIKE IT HURTS are brilliant , i wld have love those instead of little dreamer or jamies cryin , they cld still record thjem today n they wld kick ass

  • mean street

    The strongest cut on VH3? “Fire In The Hole”! Gary Kinda sounds like Sammy on vocals and the guitar is great

  • Panama Red

    @ Randy – good sense of humor with the Bruce Lee quote and the VH3 reference. I also loved what you said about “Ice Cream Man” that is a perfect synopsis, I would say. The solo in that song….Wow, don’t even know how to explain it. Like you said I’ll have to settle for mind blowing.
    And yes, There is some good comradery on this site (and also occasionally some stupid insulting over-the-internet dissing) But yeah the comradery is cool, I’m kinda surprised there isn’t more of it and less squabbling but whatever I guess we’re all passionate about this band and rock and roll in general.
    I’ve droned on and on about the whole Michael Anthony debacle several times here in the past so I won’t rehash much of it again, but I don’t think I’ll ever truly understand what the hell happened and why? I would absolutely LOVE to see the true classic line-up in concert. That would be absolutely amazing.
    But hey Randy another thing that I don’t understand (and I’ve talked about this here before too, sorry for the repetitive nature, I just get frustrated when things don’t make sense to me) is that the only albums listed on the official VH website and VH’s facebook page are the albums they did with Roth. You’d think Ed would be proud of ALL of his albums and want to claim recognition on ‘em no matter who the singer was. Afterall it’s his music and heart and soul he laid down on those albums.
    I’ll always consider EVH to be the best rock guitarist ever in the best rock band ever and Alex as one of the very best rock drummers of all time and I’ll also always be grateful for the music, good times, and memories but there are some things about Eddie and Alex I’ll just never get. Some of the decisions they have made still baffles me.

    @freddiegirl – Another good analogy using Yngwie/Segal and Eddie/Bruce. And yes I’ve seen that documentary. I’d love to talk more about it but I don’t have any more spare time today :(
    I probably should watch it again sometime since my short-term memory resets on a regular basis. LOL!
    But Yes, you’re right about Bruce Lee, his impact on this planet is immeasurable.
    I think my favorite documentary about Bruce Lee is still the other one I mentioned though, but then again like I said, my memory sucks…

  • Let’s Rock

    Flawed and perfect.
    The best Van Halen- Fair Warning.
    No remakes, no BS, no top 40!
    “She looks so Fuckin’ good…..”

    Where have these guys gone?

    The Nation waits

  • Randy

    Yeah, Panama Red, I’m completely with you about the official website. Not to mention the latest news on there is “Happy New Year”! Your “repetitive nature” is forgiven also, because I understand the passion. Again, a sort of rewriting history with the missing albums. Who thinks of that (well, we know)? Also mind blowing, but in a negative way.

    You summed it up pretty well about the VH brothers and the confusing frustration, but let me just add this: If Eddie and Alex would just adopt the model that Sammy and Mike have set. Accept all that they’ve accrued and accomplished, set aside egos and disagreements, keep the suits at bay and just have fun! They’ve earned it. It would be good not only for the music, but for their souls. Life is too short! It’s insane the freedom they have, yet how they restrict themselves. Eddie would do so much better to reunite the classic lineup, record that new album live in the studio with limited overdubs, have sober fun with the fans, and spend his money promoting the hell out of Wolfgang in a band of his own (better for Wolfgang too)! The guys in Chickenfoot are creaming themselves, and why? Because they’re just letting it flow (like water). I understand though, Mike has that nasty personality and bad attitude, he always went to rehearsal unprepared, and he always wants all the attention and limelight and more money. Playing that flashy Jack Daniel’s Bass, making a spectacle of himself, geesh!

    By the way, I’ve considered the VH News Desk the official site for some time now. Old news or new, at least I get fed almost daily. This site will tell me when there is something new on the official site. I can read it here, then I can go read it again over a dramatic photo of the soundboard!

  • http://VHND HIKER MAN

    BEST GUITAR WORK HAS TO BE ON THE SONG YEAR TO THE DAY, OR HUMANS BEINGS, THEY BOTH ROCK

  • Tim

    Hey, don’t be knocking Little Dreamer- its a classic. What a pointless and negative exercise, trying to find the weakest songs on classic albums…

  • Panama Red

    Randy said – “…If Eddie and Alex would just accept all that they’ve accrued and accomplished, set aside egos and disagreements, keep the suits at bay and just have fun! They’ve earned it. It would be good not only for the music, but for their souls. Life is too short! Eddie would do so much better to reunite the classic lineup, record that new album live in the studio with limited overdubs…”

    Sounds like a Perfect plan to me man. We are on the same page.

    @ Let’s Rock – Man, I also agree with you about “Fair Warning” That is the other Van Halen album I consider a masterpiece. It’s brilliant, tight, concentrated, dark dirty and heavy. Perfect Van Halen!

    Perhaps the last comment here by Tim was the best and most concise comment that was necessary and to the point. Now if I could somehow figure out how to post comments like that.

    This thread has been fun and interesting but I gotta actually get some work done now. DOH!! I got so much crap to do, I’ve been avoiding it here in Van Halen land. Dammit…Later guys (and freddiegirls)

  • KTC5150

    Van Halen’s debut IS the #1 debut album IMO, w/ Led Zeppelin a close second & Are You Experienced in third… NOBODY had that swagger, aggressiveness, OR changed the way rock guitar is played like the way those 4 men did… Then there was the LIVE SHOW & PARTYING… need I say more?!