VAN HALEN NEWS DESK

5 Questions With … Sammy Hagar

From Atlantic City Weekly:

The Red Rocker is co-owner of an Atlantic City beach bar, and will be performing at the resort town’s Boardwalk Hall with Aerosmith later this summer.

By Ray Schweibert
Posted Jun. 21, 2010

Cases are rampant of those who rise out of modest means to hit the heights of stardom only to crash hard. Sammy Hagar climbed that ladder, but his life could serve as the antithesis, the archetypal opposite of a celebrity train wreck. He’s a humanitarian, a successful businessman, and of course a rock ‘n’ roll hall-of-famer who’s enjoyed prosperous careers as both a solo artist and as a member of several bands, most notably as Van Halen’s frontman from 1985-’96.

He currently tours with two groups — Chickenfoot and the Waboritas — the latter of which will perform in Atlantic City with Aerosmith at Boardwalk Hall in August. A close friend of Harrah’s Eastern Division president Don Marrandino, Hagar and Harrah’s teamed to open Sammy Hagar’s Beach Bar (formerly Bally’s Beach Bar) over the 2010 Memorial Day weekend.

Hagar is also the founder/proprietor of the Cabo Wabo brand, which includes a premium line of tequilas and three Cabo Wabo cantinas, including the original in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. He recently spoke with Atlantic City Weekly by phone.

Where did your nickname, The Red Rocker, come from?

I wrote this song called “Red” back in 1976 and I have a fixation with the color red. When I get into a red room I feel different, I act different, it gives me comfort. I have about 65 red guitars and about two or three black ones. Well, about the same time the song came out, a newspaper reporter in Seattle reviewed one of my shows in 1977. I was dressed all in red — red shoes, red T-shirt, red guitar and singing the song “Red.” A kid was waiting outside the hotel room the morning after the show to get an autograph, and he had the newspaper with the review in it. He asked if I’d sign it “The Red Rocker,” so I said sure. And just like with Cabo Wabo [a name born out of “Cabo Wobble,” or someone walking while tipsy], the light kind of went on and I said, “Hey, I like it.” But really it kind of took off on its own. Soon after that I’d hear somebody yell out of their car window, “Hey Red Rocker!” and I’d say, “Well, I guess that’s me.”

Can you talk a little about the history of the Cabo Wabo brand and how you started it?

In 1981, the first time I went to Cabo [San Lucas, on the tip of the Baja peninsula], it was a big secret down there. They didn’t have any TVs, no air conditioning, no phones, no newspapers, and only three hotels. There was one flight in on a Thursday or something, and one flight out. It was like a little pick-up, drop-off point to Guadalajara or someplace. It was so remote but I fell in love with it, built a little house, and once I came up with that name and wrote the song I said, “You know what? I’m gonna build a damn tequila bar.” I didn’t have my own brand of tequila or anything, it was just one dream at a time. Every day it just got bigger and bigger and bigger. MTV spent about $4 million in promotion, flying people down for the grand opening, Van Halen played. It really drew a lot of attention and really caught on. It’s built to the hilt now. It’s like southern France now. You get off the plane and into your car from the airport, which is 20 miles from downtown Cabo, and it’s wall-to-wall hotels and homes and multi-million dollar development. I mean, there’s certain spots where you can’t see the ocean [from the road] where you could before, but quite honestly not a whole lot has changed [about the flavor of the town]. The weather is the most perfect weather in the world and the beaches are still pristine. The Sea of Cortez is between you and mainland Mexico, 400 miles across, and since there’s only so many people that can be there at any one time, it’s kept clean and pristine. You get off the plane in December and the air temperature’s 80 [degrees] and the water temperature’s 78, and it stays that way year-round. I liked it when there was no one there, but if I went again for the first time today, I’d fall in love with it all over again. Like the song [“Cabo Wabo,” written by Hagar for Van Halen] says, “If you go there once, you’ll be there twice.” As much as it’s changed, you can only do so much to change it. I don’t feel totally responsible [for the transformation], but I lit the fire and I used good wood. I helped put it on the map.

How did creating a tequila brand come out of this?

I would have never gotten into the tequila business, or have known how to do it, if I had not opened the original Cabo, the mother ship [two others, unique in design, have been opened in Lake Tahoe and Las Vegas]. The light would have never gone on, but I figured “Hey, I have a tequila bar, why not create my own brand of tequila that’s as cool as this place?” and was lucky to start the business right when tequila was taking off in popularity. I had just gotten turned onto premium 100 percent agave tequila in Mexico about five years before that and it blew my mind. So I went on a search to find the best tequila in the world, and someone to make it to my palate, and I got lucky because tequila just exploded. Petron and Cabo Wabo were the first two premium tequilas in America. What many people may not realize is that tequila’s as complex a spirit as brandy, cognac or single-malt scotches. It’s the same thing, it’s just made from agave. And what makes tequila so special, in my opinion, is that most spirits come from grain [alcohol] and agave takes 10 years to grow a plant to maturity. It’s a special thing. It grows naturally out of the earth and will damn near poison you if you eat it raw, but when you cook it, it turns to honey, and it’s the sweetest honey you’ve ever tasted called agave nectar. It’s such a special plant, it’s just go so much soul. Whiskey, gin, vodka — you can make that stuff out of anything — corn, rice, bran, anything that will ferment and turn to sugar. You can make vodka out of pineapples or oranges, but tequila and cognac — which is made from grapes — are the two most special spirits because they come right from the earth, and they have soul. And when you age them, they have more soul.

How have you avoided many of the pitfalls rock stars often fall into? Did it stem largely from a good family upbringing?

[Laughs] I’m doing an autobiography called Sammy Hagar Red. When you read my family background you’re going to ask “How did this happen? It’s a miracle.” I came from a family in which my father died in the back of a police car when he was 53 years old, drunk on the streets of my hometown of Fontana, California. It was a small steel-mill town where everybody knew everybody else, which made it tough on me, my brother and two sisters. My mom [Gladys] would do ironing and pick fruit to raise four kids. A single mom — that’s where the heart and soul comes from. Even though we were poor we had clean clothes and she gave us values. My mom [who passed away a couple of years ago] was totally uneducated, she only went through eighth grade, but she had heart and soul and creativity. My brother and sisters all have had good lives and no problems, and it’s because of my mom. Fontana was rough and tough and nothing was given to you. This is where I came from and can brag a little bit and put a feather in my cap — I came from nothing, zero.

I read where any personal profits you derive from your bar businesses are turned over to children’s charities — what was the motivation here?

Kids are my soft spot. Years ago, when I was with Van Halen, I was asked by the Make-A-Wish Foundation to fulfill a request. A nine-year-old boy with terminal cancer said he wanted to meet Sammy Hagar, and I was asked if I’d go see him in the hospital. I said sure. Well, it took me down and turned me around. Once you become aware of things like that, I can’t see how anybody can turn their back on it. That’s why I go around talking about it so much — to try to enlighten other people to help out who may not have gotten bit like I did. Because I’ll tell you, once you’ve been bit you’ll want to help out in any way you can. And that’s the idea — build an army. I mean I don’t need the money, so when a new idea comes up like the beach bar, I’m going to give it to kids. It’s really simple.

  • http://none The Fan

    I can think of 3 DLR era VH albums that are worse than the worst 3 VHagar albums. I’m looking at you, Diver Down.
    I would never admit this to my stepfather, but VHagar was way more talented that Van Halen.

  • Cool

    Hey, the dude looks pretty good for being in his early 60′s!

    Anyways, it’s cool to know a little bit more about Sammy. Even though many things brought up in his interviews are semi-repeat topics, you can always expect to learn at least some new tidbit of interesting information.

  • Kayser Sozay

    A solid human being to the core. It’s a special person who has that much fame, and that much money yet always seems to be about spreading love and joy to others. You can love his music or hate it, but it’s hard not to admire how he lives his life and treats his fellow man.

  • Magic

    Sammy Hagar is life. He provides food for my soul. I have only seen him in concert once, (Australia) and he didn’t let me down. There is only one Van Halen – Michael, Alex, Eddie and Sammy. Sam, if you need a didjeridoo player? let me know.

  • Drew

    I had a woman ask me once, which version of Van Halen did I like better? I asked her, “Which one of your kids to love the most”? It is all very, very good. Can’t wait to see Sammy in St. Louis and Naperville. Where is Dave? Better yet… where is the mighty Van Halen? We all need it.

  • Fletch5150

    Where did the name “Red Rocker” come from? Really??! Waste of a question.

  • PL

    Complain, complain, complain. Typical VH fan.

  • Keith

    Thanks Fletch5150 for being this first gommer to ruin the post with a negative comment.

  • JLR

    Keith, I think it was The Fan who made the first bone-head negative comment of this post… 3 DLR era VH albums that are worse than the worst 3 VHagar albums??? THis guy is whacked!

  • Matteau23

    The Cantina in Vegas totally sucks. The drinks are twice the price of the original and it has a total “chain” feel to it. Absolutely none of the vibe the original cantina has. Just a bunch of b$tchy bartenders who wouldn’t know a good tequila drink if it fell on them and crappy cover bands. The food is also way over priced and mass produced.

    I was actually really dissapointed because I loved the one in Cabo so much. I guess I shouldn’t have expected as much though in Vegas, the whole place has become a giant outdoor strip mall..

  • tiptop22

    Sammy is writing an autobiography…could be interesting.
    If memory serves me well he tried this once before as I remember reading an excerpt about the VH Twister soundtrack, the was he pushed or did he jump debacle and his feelings towards Ray Danniels that caused the split.

  • John Boatright

    van hagar is the best. it is much better than the dave years. 5150 is one of the greatest albums of all time.

  • http://hallowart markey

    I really dig Sammy, he is one of a few rockers that is down to earth. He is the real deal, and I love what he does to help with children chareites. God bess you Red Rocker!! have an awesome summer!

  • Herb

    Really…do we have to go through all of this again?

    John, instead of posting something useless…”van hagar is much better,” how about something slightly more compelling? Perhaps you could say why you like it more.

  • Top Jimmy

    I can tell you which one of my kids I love best and I can tell you which Van Halen I like best. The smart one and the real one. No sense in lying to yourself or your kids Drew. Everyone’s got a favorite. My other kid is a fat lazy bastard. He may not even be mine.

  • Dooley

    Interesting article mainly because it’s current. It’s great that Sam funnels financial support to charitable causes (Dave as well with his recent accoustic guitar auction).

    Now, if we can get some current comments from the VH camp. Two great bands (speaking in the present tense) are better than one. And CF not the Wabos, of course.

    Go Sam!!! See ya’ in Sept. at Tahoe w/Mike, Chad & Joe…I’m stoked.

  • Jarret

    Always like Sammy as a musician – never got enough credit for his guitar ability, which you can’t blame people for when he was up against Eddie. Good to see that he’s really a good soul at the core – gives me hope for the celebrity world.

    Further to John’s post, I’ll put F.U.C.K. up against any album from the DLR era anytime. Dave and Sammy are two different singers and eras, and VH was really two different bands with each guy and everyone has their favorite, but you can’t really argue that Sammy was the better singer. Dave was the vastly superior showman, but Sammy was/is far more talented.

  • vnhalen8

    Jimmy….too much tequila this morning? I’m just saying;-)

    Sam is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the money grubbing Van Halens! A Rocker with a sense of community and is compelled to give back. ED and Al could learn volumes from the Red one! I’m not here to deabate which Halen 1,2 or 3 is the best but rather Sam’s feet are firmly attached to the earth!

  • Pat

    Sam has so much great music, I hope when he tours that he plays a few of the tracks he’s neglected over the years. Standing Hampton,VOA,3 Lock Box,etc. are great records. Too bad radio fails to appreciate Hagar solo. Except of course for 55.

  • Adam

    To vnhalen8,

    Don’t be fooled…Sammy loves money every bit as much as the Van Halens, and almost assuredly more-so. Van Halen tickets cost a lot more than Sammy’s because they can charge more. Supply and demand.

    Am I slamming Sammy? HELL NO! How can someone not want lots of money? Most people certainly do, and certainly most rock stars and business men. Sammy has always been great at public relations and that’s why he doesn’t come across to the fans as being money-hungry.

    The Van Halens, on the other hand, don’t have a clue about public relations, despite Ed being married to a publicist.

    I think it’s wonderful that Sammy is giving all the profits of his restaurants to charity. But, just to clarify, he gives all the profits to charity from his “Sammy’s Beach Bar & Grill” restaurants, NOT his Cabo Wabo Cantinas. The profits from all 3 Cantinas go straight to Sammy. Again, more power to him.

  • Canes_fan5150

    So I heard Thats why I love you (unreleased track from vh3) on YouTube today and it really is a great song. I wish they would have left it on. I think it would have single handedly made the album a lot more successful. It was supposed to be a single and probably could have been a #1 hit. Man I wish we had Garys second album with VH. I have only recently begun to appreciate 3. It is very sophisticated which could be the reason it didn’t appeal to alot of the fan base. I mean van halen is a party band right? Imagine if that song was on there and helped the album sell even 2x platinum. We could have a new vh album every year even if it was fronted by Gary I would take it. Sorry for rambling on an unrelated post but the song just got me thinking.

    Also, if you haven’t heard the song before I would suggest looking it up. It is on the soft side but it is 100% genius. Also is garys best vocal performance on the cd.

  • JAG

    Sammy Hager is one of the all time greats in Rock and Roll. I can’t count how many times I have seem him perform. Every show is a non-stop party, whether it was with VH, The Wabos or CF. I have total respect for this guys work ethic. Sammy, if you read this, know that it’s because you started with nothing and not raised with a silver spoon that my wife and I love your work so much. Keep it up Brother Sam.
    John From Upland, Ca.

  • Dooley

    Jarrett: Spot on, man. Great, respectful (imagine that?) comment/observation about the two bands and the roles played by Sam & Dave. Comments like yours are good for this site.

    Canes_fan5150:

    No question Gary Cherone is a very talented singer. I took your suggestion and viewed the youtube of “That’s Why I Love You”. I didn’t know it existed and it was interesting to check it out. Thanks for that. But it brought to mind why VH III wasn’t a rip-roaring success. When you boil it all down, Gary sounded like Sam and attempted to be the showman that Dave really is. Just didn’t seem “real” to most VH fans. But I’m glad you like it, and thanks again for sharing it with the rest of us.

  • Steve Haug

    Sammy is one of the greatest rockers ever. In writing music,singing and down to earth person. He’s so family and for the good of all people and dosen’t steel the show like DLR

  • Brad West

    Sammy is the best. Period. What a great guy. I have nothing but respect for Sammy because he’s 60 years old and still rocking. His charity towards kids is simply awesome and should be taken as a model to other rockers out there.

    You’re the best, Sammy! Keep rocking

  • vnhalen8

    ADAM:

    I understand Sam and everyone else likes money. What I was pointing out is the VH’s NEVER step out of the spot light and champion a/or causes. Goood points though ADam.

  • jim

    I think going forward, we are going to need to fill the blogs with “sammy is a good guy” comments that typically were designated for Mike.

  • http://vhnd.com o1need12

    sammy is a “good guy” maybe, i agree with whoever said that sammy just knows how to spin his interest in money, i also dont begrudge him that. i just think its funny how everyone bust ed’s chops over being money hungry when sam really is no different. i also agree that there are 2 different era’s of vh and its hard to pick one over the other, but imho i think the hagar era started going down after f.u.c.k and i truly believe it was sam’s lyrics and melodies that brought it down. yes there was some good songs, but up until that point they were always great records not abunch of filler songs. i think sammy introduced the filler song to vh. again imho….diver down was quality filler songs before anyone mentions it!!

  • http://www.vhnd.com Pat G.

    Sammy is a good man who seems to have his head screwed on straight. Contributes to charities all over the country and doesn’t seem to think twice about doing it. Unlike some other people whom this site is named after (vh). He’s working on a book, as well?? That will be a good read. I didn’t know about the make-a-wish thing, even better. When people whine about him keeping the profits from his Cantinas, so what!!!!! Sounds like he does the right thing with all of the other $$$$ he earns, so cut the dude a bit of slack if he puts some coin in his checkbook for his family.

  • vnhalen8

    Food for Thought (maybe a little twisted but mine)

    ROTH ERA:
    *(8) song re-makes (in my counting)
    * Longest record 35:13, most records barely over 30 Minutes. Sorry but 30 minutes is LAME! Everything was hurried; record than get out and tour.
    * Live performance could be epic or horrible (I’ve seen both).

    HAGAR ERA:
    *NO remakes!
    * Band finally puts out a full length album. 3 of 4 records clock in over 50 MINUTES!! Shortest record was about 10 minutes longer than ANY Roth release. More output, more songs, LESS filler. Recording process wasn’t AS hurried.
    * Live: very consistent and ALWAYS on his game.

    I too perfer the Roth version but won’t scoff at what Sam brought to Halen…it was signifigant.

    This is coming from a guy who has seen EVERY tour since ’79.
    Blast away my fellow VH lovers.

  • http://vhnd.com o1need12

    @ pat g. do you think that group that this site (of which ur on jack ass)is named after doesnt contribute to charity ???? for starters millionaires give money away all the time. it’s call tax breaks. they have to do it. i would caution alot of you aginst falling for the “nice” guy image sammy has goin, and mike for that matter. im sure there decent guys but i guarantee you they arent spending all there days thinkin about you fans and what charity there going to contribute to next. i wonder if sam will give away his autobiography money, or better yet his 80 million from cabo tequilla!!!

  • ClubfootKolby

    I SAID IT BEFORE, BRING THEM ALL BACK FOR ONE BIG TOUR

  • Steve

    vnhalen8:

    Dude you don’t realize that the classic VH albums were all under 40 minutes because that was the extent of the media that were put out in those days (8 track, cassette, vinyl). This was a big reason why albums were soo much better back in those days and easier to make. Because artists had to narrow their bag of songs down to the very best that would fit in that time frame.

  • Kayser Sozay

    01need12: What? Comparing the VH bros charitable giving to Sam’s because they pay taxes? Don’t we all do that (Sam included)? And don’t we all do it because we have to, not because we want to? It ain’t charity if you have no choice but to do it. Sorry but your point is weak (and that’s being charitable).

  • Lou

    At least Sammy has made new music in the past decade. Ed’s porno music does not count! We will probably see more Sammy albums, Chickenfoot amd solo stuff before we see a VH albumn and tour( IF we ever see that!!).

  • vnhalen8

    01need12:

    You are WAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY off point! You just don’t get it.

  • Canes_fan5150

    I have never heard somebody that personally knew Eddie say he wasn’t an extremely nice guy. I also believe that he visited a kid with cancer recently and gave him guitars, amps, tons of stuff. Didn’t he also do something for a retired cop about a year ago. I remember reading that on this site. And plus I think it was vanhalen8 that said they never step out of the spotlight to do anything. If were stepping out of the spotlight how would we know about it. I didn’t know Sammy did that until today (very nice of him). I don’t publicly announce my charitable deeds to everyone so why would the VHs

  • Canes_fan5150

    Okay time to eat your words. Go in the Eddie van halen archives on this site and read “sick 11 year old wants to meet Eddie” and also “van halen donates to cancer stricken deputy”. The second talks about all of the charity Ed does. You guys are such losers.

  • Canes_fan5150

    I hope you guys feel like idiots.

  • VH2008
  • Nat

    Sam is close to the same age as Roger Daltry, and while The Who is in a league of their own, Sam can sing circles around Roger these days. I love all eras of VH (even Gary) but you have to hand it to Sammy – he’s a talented guy who really seems to have his head screwed on right.

  • Diamond Dean

    Van halen with hagar was great !! right up until they released ou812 which i consider worse then 3 , yes worse , its plain terrible , the prod is the worst ive ever heard on an album by any band. Sammy seems like a great guy , but as a talent avg , a great singer yes , but entertainer songwriter very very avg , some of his solo albums are abysmal , u can pick most of them up on amazon for less then a dollar second hand

    Sorry people bagging DIVER DOWN , just because its short n Eddie doesnt like it !!! great album , hang em high , little guitars, full bug , secrets are all fantastic songs !!!!! i cld name a 100 hagar solo stuff worse then that , let alone Big fat money , appolitical blues , Dont tell me , black n blue are ver.y very very avg songs .

    Van halen with DIVER DOWN did the US festival , was there something like 300 thousand people there ???

    Van halen with ou812 did monsters of rock , where half the places were half full , people were leaving b4 VH hit the stage n they had to give money back to the promoters .

    The us festival concert is a classic , or VH live in japan ’89 with those yellow banana legs is just plain embaressing

  • Herb

    Just to balance out the latest gem from Diamond Dean…I can name a hundred Hagar solo songs I like better than Diver Down.

    The preceeding post is for illustration purpose only…to demonstrate just how absurd and childish it gets.

    Stupid silly comparisons and arbitrary fanatical ravings are so transparent, Dean.

  • vnhalen8

    IMN

    Your nuts! Most full length albums ran between 40-45 minutes…do some research. The ideas was to get as close to 45 minutes as possible as that was the length of one side of a 90-minute tape. So don’t come on here and tell me about media limitations.

  • vnhalen8

    Canes & VH2008:

    I glad you were able to pull up Ed doing SOMETHING charitable.

  • Adam

    I feel the need to correct some things that Vnhalen8 is saying. I don’t want to argue, but it annoys me when I see false statements that go unchallenged:

    1) 30 minutes albums back in the ’70′s & ’80′s weren’t “lame.” Rather, they were the norm. Not 40-45 minutes… it had nothing to do with the fact that most blank audio tapes were 45 minutes per side. Also, VH felt that the shorter the running time, the better the bottom end would sound on vinyl, which was more popular than tapes.

    2) Canes & VH2008 didn’t come up with just “SOMETHING” that Ed did that was charitable… the two stories they listed showed MANY things that he does for charity. I guess you didn’t read them, yet felt the need to argue.

    3) Also, your comparison about the facts of the Dave-era albums vs. Sammy era albums didn’t really mean anything. One could just as easily say that, on paper, the Roth albums were more impressive than the Hagar ones, since 6 albums in 6 years with DLR went on to sell twice the units as the 4 albums in 10 years with Sammy. Andwho cares how long an album is, compared to how GOOD it is? Many of the best albums ever made are around a half hour long.

  • Karl

    Seems vnhalen8 goes along with the notion of ‘never mind the quality, feel the width’. Seriously, comparing albums on length?

  • vnhalen8

    Karl
    - all I was trying to point out is the album process was less hurried and the band was more productive (as far as writing songs that made it to record) So quit taking my statement(s) and twisting them.

  • http://vhnd.com o1need12

    # Kayser Sozay says:
    June 22nd, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    01need12: What? Comparing the VH bros charitable giving to Sam’s because they pay taxes? Don’t we all do that (Sam included)? And don’t we all do it because we have to, not because we want to? It ain’t charity if you have no choice but to do it. Sorry but your point is weak (and that’s being charitable).

    jack ass take time to read before you respond, it may not be well written but im pretty sure i said, that if you are a millionare you pretty much have to give away chunks of money to charity’s for TAX DEDUCTIONS !!!! sorry i didnt draw you a picture!

  • JMonty311

    Seriously, Sammy better than Dave? Right! All his songs are about love and lame ass shit! Dave was all about the party… I got nothing against love but, come on, Van Halen doing those lame ass songs, Dreams, When its love, LAME!