VAN HALEN NEWS DESK

Van Halen: VH1

From Guitar World.com. Originally printed in Guitar World Magazine, April 2008

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Thirty Years ago, Van Halen burst out of the Sunset Strip and set the music world on fire with their debut album. This is the story behind the group’s rise to success and the making of Van Halen, the record that changed guitar playing – and rock – forever.

Thirty years ago, Van Halen arrived when music was in desperate need of them. Belching fire and brimstone and fighting for their right to party while the Beastie Boys were still in middle school, their timing was impeccable. When Van Halen, the Pasadena, California–based group’s debut album, was released on February 10, 1978, there were hardly any stars in American music. The album not only made celebrities of the groups four members—it also gave new life to guitar-oriented rock and made virtuosity a criterion for any guitarist who hoped to follow in the group’s footsteps.

From the start, everything about Van Halen seemed to suggest grandness of scale: Their name, which, somewhat surprisingly, singer David Lee Roth had to convince Eddie Van Halen into using in place of the more directly sizecentric Mammoth (Eddie later admitted that his surname was the perfect choice: “It sounds huge, like an atomic bomb.”). Their outsized stage show, perfected at backyard keggers and wet T-shirt contests, and eventually at Sunset Strip clubs like the Whisky a Go-Go and Gazzari’s.

And, of course, their energy. Van Halen had swagger, good looks and smiles—that magical show-biz triumvirate introduced and perfected by the Beatles that had somehow become lost over the years. What’s more, they and their music were fun. By the early Seventies, music was beginning to feel like work: the prog-rock movement brought staggering feats of virtuosic musicianship, but the music was full of torturous 20-minute opuses about space travel and Knights of the Round Table. Van Halen seemed to understand that music could be the antidote to cynicism, that it could make you feel alive again. “I think the thing that separated me and the rest of the band from everybody else was the fact that we just loved to play,” Eddie recalled. “That’s the thing: you don’t work music, you play music.”

There was also that sound, a ground shaker that matched the audacity of the band’s ambitions. It was based on booming drums and gushers of distorted guitar, jacked up by Eddie’s personally modified guitars and amplifiers (the guitarist famously used Variacs to lower the line voltage of his amps, thereby reducing headroom and causing the power tubes to compress and distort more). Rarely in the annals of rock did a sound serve a band so beautifully: the higher the volume, the larger the canvas, the more inspired the music making. Most important, there was

Eddie’s singular approach to the guitar, honed at first by years of obsessively studying the styles of Hendrix, Beck and, in particular, Eric Clapton. Slowing down Cream records to copy the solos to songs such as “Spoonful” brought the young guitarist only so far. By his mid-teens, out of frustration and sheer force of will, he flipped the bird to convention and become a recluse, shutting himself in his bedroom for 12 hours at a time to devote himself to the instrument and the strange and wondrous noises he heard in his head. “I used to sit on the edge of my bed with a six-pack of Schlitz Mall talls,” he said. “My brother [Alex] would go out at 7 p.m. to party and get laid, and when he’d come back at 3 a.m., I would still be sitting in the same place, playing guitar. I did that for years.”

When he finally emerged from his room and hit the Hollywood stages with Van Halen (which included Alex on drums, Michael Anthony on bass and Roth), his breathtaking abilities were nearly fully formed, as was his unorthodox hammer-on-and-pull-off technique. Eddie readily admits that he wasn’t the first guitarist to employ this approach, but the manner in which he brought it to the fore, with a commitment and finesse that transcended mere gimmickry, was seen as shocking, revolutionary and, above all, baffling. “I think I got the idea of tapping watching Jimmy Page do his ‘Heartbreaker’ solo back in 1971,” he recalled. “He was doing a pull-off to an open string, and I thought, Wait a minute, open string…pull off. I can do that, but what if I use my finger as the nut and move it around? I just kind of took it and ran with it.”

Still precocious enough to be considered an enfant terrible, Eddie Van Halen incited strong reactions and drew legions of fascinated (and no doubt envious) guitarists to his band’s shows. When performing live in those early years, he played with his back to the audience. While this might have been seen as an act of supreme humility, as if some part of him rebelled against canonization, it was in fact an act of self-preservation. His brother Alex, demonstrating uncanny prescience, had warned him that other guitarists would “rob him blind” if his tricks were exposed before the band could cut a record. It was only after the release of Van Halen that Eddie, secure in the knowledge that his feats of fretboard wizardry had been sufficiently documented, felt comfortable playing facing a crowd.

But even before he tracked his first note in a professional recording studio, he was putting serious distance between himself and his peers—and his heroes. Many guitarists have a talent, but to be successful it is not enough to have talent; one must have a certain kind of talent. Hendrix was a shape-shifter of sound in a psychedelic, blues-based idiom. Page was a master of moods, production and arrangement. Beck was a flash stylist. Clapton had tone, taste and knew his way around pop composition. With Eddie Van Halen, all of the above applied. His thing was, he could do it all. And, along with David Lee Roth, he was penning songs that were tight and tuneful—the stuff that hits are made of.

Their reputation for drawing audiences was built quickly. Soon the band was opening for the likes of Santana, UFO, Nils Lofgren and Sparks. When scenester and show promoter Rodney Bingenheimer booked Van Halen into the Starwood club, Kiss’ Gene Simmons caught their act and was floored. Taking the Pasadena upstarts under his leathery wing, Simmons financed the band’s first professional demo tape. Basics for the songs “Runnin’ with the Devil” and “House of Pain” (the latter of which would appear on the album 1984) were cut at Village Recorder Studios in Los Angeles. Later, Simmons, who was trying to persuade the band into calling themselves Daddy Longlegs (an idea they rejected out of hand), flew the group to New York to finish recording at Electric Ladyland Studios in New York.

It was there that Eddie had his first exposure with the practice of overdubbing; the guitarist was anything but comfortable with the process. “I tried to [do it], but I just didn’t know how,” he said. “You have to play to yourself. I was like, ‘How the hell do I do this?’ I hadn’t even played with another guitarist.’ While in New York, Simmons arranged for the band to perform a showcase for Kiss’ manager Bill Aucoin. Aucoin agreed with Simmons that Van Halen had spirit, but he felt their commercial prospects were limited; instead, the manager set his sights on signing a band called Piper, whose commercial prospects proved to be even less than limited. With their demo tape in hand, Van Halen headed back to California, buoyed by their brush with success but uncertain when their real break would come.

Although they were stars on the Sunset Strip, the band wasn’t seeing much money; some gigs paid no more than $75. “Not even enough to buy equipment,” Eddie recalled. “Alex and I used to go around and paint house numbers on curbs to make extra money.” All of that changed during another Starwood performance when the band was introduced to Marshall Berle, nephew of comedian and TV icon Milton Berle, who became the group’s manager. Berle had a flair for hype, but something about the way he talked up Van Halen and their ability to draw crowds led Warner Bros. head Mo Ostin to believe that maybe this was more than just talk—perhaps there was something to this band from Pasadena after all. And so, on a night that saw heavy rain flood the Hollywood streets, Van Halen played to a nearly empty Starwood.

Mo Ostin was there, along with Warner Bros. in-house producer Ted Templeman. Despite the nonexistent crowd, Van Halen played with unbridled brio. Ostin and Templeman looked at each other and smiled: They would sign the band, as in right away. “It was right out of the movies,” Eddie said. “Just like that, we finally had a record deal.”

Templeman, who had produced albums for Van Morrison, Carly Simon and Captain Beefheart, among others, and who enjoyed a long and fruitful association with the Doobie Brothers, was astounded by Van Halen’s surfeit of strong material, and he wasted little time in hustling them into Sunset Sound Studios. Once in the studio, even less time was wasted: In only 18 days, the band raced through their entire repertoire, 40 songs in all, originals as well as covers such as the Kinks’ “You Really Got Me” and John Brim’s blues standard “Ice Cream Man.” On the songs that didn’t require a vibrato bar (“You Really Got Me,” “Runnin’ with the Devil,” the rhythm track for Jamie’s Cryin’ ”), Eddie employed his main live guitar, an Ibanez “Shark” Destroyer. On other songs, he used a black-andwhite striped Strat that he outfitted with a Gibson Fifties PAF humbucker.

Much to Eddie’s relief, Templeman wasn’t the punctilious sort; the producer was in thrall of the band’s live performance qualities and insisted on keeping instrumental overdubs to a minimum. “It was a party,” Eddie said of the sessions. “We played the way we played onstage, and it was great. It didn’t feel like we were making a record. We just went in, poured back a few beers and played.”

The tracks for the album had almost all been cut when, one day, Templeman walked into the studio and heard Eddie and Alex warming up for a show the band was to play that night at the Whisky. According to Eddie, the two were just “dickin’ around,” but Templeman sensed something else was happening, a breakthrough of some sort. He watched and listened in hypnotic excitement as the guitarist’s fingers danced along the fretboard. These weren’t the normal scales and patterns Eddie had traditionally practiced to limber up; these were strange and exciting song fragments, a voluptuous feast of ideas, operatic in scope but performed with a savage, erotic force. Templeman had already been telling friends and associates about this marvelous new guitarist he’d been working with, going so far as to compare him to the likes of Django Reinhardt and Andrés Segovia, but now he was convinced of Eddie Van Halen’s genius. He asked Eddie what it was he was playing. “Oh, that’s a little solo thing I do live,” he responded. Templeman didn’t recall Van Halen playing it at the Starwood show he attended, but he insisted that the instrumental be fleshed out and cut for the album.

In one breathless take, after a short, bombastic intro with Alex and Michael Anthony, Eddie released an unbroken ribbon of scales, bends, dive bombs and hammer-on classical-sounding arpeggios. As he did in all of the band’s songs, Eddie tuned down a half step (this was done both to accommodate Roth’s vocal style and to give the guitar sound more teeth). The only effects that were used were an MXR Phase 90 and a Univox EC-80 echo box (the latter of which was housed in an old WWII bomb shell that Eddie found in a junkyard). One minute and forty-two seconds after the tape started rolling, Eddie pulled his vibrato bar up after a long, descending growl and “Eruption,” as it was now called, was complete. Templeman and the band were elated, but Eddie was chastened. “I didn’t even play it right,” he later remarked. “There’s a mistake at the top end of it. To this day, whenever I hear it I always think, Man, I could’ve played it better.”

Eddie would soon make one more screw up, only this wouldn’t go down so well. With the album still months away from release, he went to the Rainbow Bar & Grill and hung out with members of a fellow Sunset Strip band called Angel. As alcohol flowed, drummer Barry Brandt began to brag about the forthcoming Angel record. Eddie, flush with pride over the album he had just cut, responded in kind. When the party moved to Brandt’s house, Eddie, hell bent on blowing everybody’s mind, put on a tape of Van Halen—and jaws were dropped. Eddie thought nothing of it—for weeks he had been playing the tape for his friends—but when he got a call from a furious Ted Templeman, informing him that Angel were in a studio frantically recording their own version of “You Really Got Me” with the intention of beating Van Halen to the punch, he realized the magnitude of his mistake. As a consequence, Warner Bros. had no choice but to rush-release Van Halen’s version of the song. (It should be noted that Angel would soon join Piper in the Oblivion bins at record shops.)

There were no riots in the streets, nobody threw anything (except guitars out of windows), but it’s safe to say that from the moment people dropped the needle on Van Halen and heard what seemed to be some sort of air-raid alarm (actually, it was the band members’ car horns synced together and slowed down to ominous effect) they were in a state of shock. A new movement was taking place, and Van Halen, with a bratty authority and a rapacious sense of purpose not heard since the debut of Led Zeppelin, were leading the charge. A nearly flawless piece of pop art, Van Halen is one of those great rarities in music, at once simple and sophisticated, distilling the band’s prodigious chops and party-hearty aesthetic into hummable melodies that took hold of one’s senses and didn’t let go. “Ain’t Talkin’ ’Bout Love,” “Jamie’s Cryin,’ ” “Runnin with the Devil,” “I’m on Fire”— there isn’t a bum track to be found. As both singer and carnival barker of sorts, David Lee Roth made all the right noises: surprised whoops, leering come-ons, testicle-gripping screams, hollers of “whoa now” and the like—the full panoply of orchestrated letme- entertain-you shtick. Alex Van Halen and Michael Anthony more than held up their respective ends, providing a prizefighter’s punch and, in the case of Anthony, background vocals that sailed in the air and served as the perfect counterpoint to Roth’s gruff voice.

Of course, there was Eddie. Of all the young guitarists who ever issued a debut record, he’s the one who delivered on promises he never had to make. Dispensing with the usual wobbly preamble of a flawed but ambitious first record, he burst through the gate as a musician who valued substance and emotional contact over mere technical flash. With poetry in his heart and a panoramic vision of where he was headed, he never had to develop into something special, for he was already there. Being thrust into the pantheon of greats at such a tender age (he was 22 at the time) and so early in his career can be ruinous to most musicians, but Eddie’s extraordinary energy and thirst for innovation proved to be invaluable strengths. Guitarists the world over saw the rashness and speed of his gifts and emulated him in a way that no musician has ever had to endure. “Eruption” was and continues to be a litmus test for budding axslingers—what Frank Zappa’s “The Black Page” is to drummers, so, too, Eddie’s tour de force is to guitarists. But it’s also a cul-de-sac, for no matter how hard everyone tried to catch up to Eddie Van Halen, he was burning up the ground as fast as he could run.

Thirty years on, it continues unabated.

  • Fletch5150

    Are those pictures copyrighted by neil zlozower?

  • Russ

    Piper – had Bruce Kulick and Billy Squire. Circus magazine touted it as the greatest debut album ever produced by an American rock band. DiamondDLR was right…although I admit I never heard of them….

  • Fred Gruber

    What they’ve given us is enough to last a lifetime. Seeing them on tour in 07 was a bonus. They don’t owe us anything. New music would be interesting, but if it doesn’t live up to their best stuff, people will complain and it would taint the bands image.

    I would love to see another tour.

  • http://none chickenfoothater

    I’m with scar.Stop bein’ a man child and enjoy Van Halen.The complainin’, i just skip over and don’t read anymore just like friends in the past who were whiners and refused to change.I gave them years to change,but once a whiner always a whiner.I don’t even bother with those pups anymore.And please Snatch and Bi are no where near Eddie in talent or legendary status.

  • David Alexander Toluca Lake

    Re Dirty Duck
    The black and white picutre is NOT David’s house in Pasadena.

    It was taken at Sunset Sound recording studio in Hollywood with they recorded VH and VH2.

    You can see the baffles on the wall, and the head phone box. They did NOT wear headphones in Roths basement to practice.

  • David Alexander Toluca Lake

    That live shot is at Fresno, CA.

  • The Dave you don’t know

    The lack of new music, I think, is quite interesting. So is the total silence from DLR. That says to me they’re trying, but aren’t quite firing on all cylinders. VH1 took 18 days in the studio, right? This much time isn’t a great sign in my opinion.

    Or who knows. Maybe they’re all just sitting back and enjoying the fruits of their most profitable tour in history LOL.

    I’d love to hear more music from them. But like many, if nothing else comes… “Happy Trails… to you…. (bomba-deeda-bomba-deeda)”

  • David Alexander Toluca Lake

    And for Christmas my wish would be that Edward (since he spends so much time at 5150 dicking around anyway) would put out a DVD of how HE plays his songs, with transcriptions. SO we dont have to rely on transcriptions from others.

    The DVD of this would sell millions.

    I know this will never happen, but its a wish nonetheless.

  • David Alexander Toluca Lake

    THANK YOU to VHND.com for giving Van Halen fans something to look at from time to time. Thanks for your hard work.

  • Rick Pride

    Why do my comments not get posted here and others that do disappear? Is it because I’m not spending enough in the store? No that can’t be it. I think I’ve spent quite a bit here and will continue to do so. But answer me that???

  • kayser sozay

    Tone – sorry to offend your sensibilities with my quip about the article reminding me of when VH was a band. But if your sensibilities are so delicate that a remark like that would bother you that much, maybe I’m not the one who needs therapy, yeah?

    I’m not “tormented” by VH’s failure to release new music. I’m a huge fan of VH’s music but I honestly wouldn’t care if they never released another album. I’d be perfectly happy with what they’ve done. What bothers me, and why I make quips like that, is that VH keeps stringing the fans along with empty promises but never deliver. If the band were up front about what’s going on – even to say “we’re not really sure what’s going on” – I promise you most of what you label as “negative” posts on this site would cease.

    As long as VH keeps promising new music but only delivers merchandise, VH is a trademark, not a band. That’s why I wrote what I wrote. The article reminded me of when VH made music, which is what bands do.

    As far as your idea about VHND censoring “negative” comments on this site, I hope that was just you expressing displeasure/disagreement at what I and others have said rather than a serious suggestion. How boring would this site be if we were all just sheep who agreed with each other? If you were serious, go create your own fansite where you have editorial control. I for one appreciate that the creators of this site let everyone have their say, including those I disagree with.

  • DLR

    Get ready for next month. If memory serves me right it is the 12th anniversay of VH III. Don’t get me wrong, lots of great guitar work on that album. I could do without “How Many Say I” but other than that, it still gets played once in a while. Maybe I will be wrong and the headlines for next month will be something to cheer us all on………

  • chris.omeara

    Those were good times… Damn Good times…

    Where Have All The Good Times Gone?

  • chris.omeara

    The VH1 pics that is- NOT VHIII…

  • Jim

    My favorite part of this is the following:

    1 second into seeing this new article on vhnd, I instantly thought about all the douches that will go on here and post something referring to unless there is new music, then this means nothing.

    For a few months now, I’ve been finding it so entertaining.

  • mjc

    kayser,very well put.someone said put vh on the back of a milk carton,that was a good one.

  • Panama Red

    Yes, a lot of these news articles are reprints but they are still fun to read, and some of ‘em can seem kind of new to someone who has the memory of a goldfish like me.

    The part where they quoted Eddie saying:
    “I used to sit on the edge of my bed with a six-pack of Schlitz Mall talls, Alex would go out at 7 p.m. to party and get laid, and when he’d come back at 3 a.m., I would still be sitting in the same place, playing guitar. I did that for years.”

    Reminded me of something…when Eddie was interviewed for “The History of Rock and Roll” Documentary series from years ago and he said the same thing. Except it was funnier ‘cause he said something like — Everybody was always trying to get me to go out with them and chase girls, but I always wanted to stay home and practice. I knew when I got good enough I would be getting all the pussy I wanted. Lmao!

    And the part in the article when Alex said people would “rob him blind” referring to Eddie’s playing, reminded me of those chodes who tried to rip VH off with “You Really Got Me” which was included in this article as well. I’ve always thought–What a humongous douchebag move that was by those guys. Sounded like to me they deserved a good ass kicking for trying to pull that shit.

    Van Halen 1 is amazing. Goes down in the annals of rock as one of the best albums EVER! One of the many reasons why I love that album so much is because they kept the over dubbing to a minimum, so it had more of a “Live” sound to it. It almost sounds like they recorded the whole album at the same time, one song after the other in Roth’s grungy basement. Awesome!!
    I don’t mean to be negative, I know bashing VH3 is popular and everything but that was one of my biggest complaints about it. It sounded like it was recorded at the opposite end of the spectrum from VH1. With the opposite take or idea on producing it that Templeman had in ‘77-‘78 which I really liked. Y’know, it had more over dubbing, and it had the “studio feel” to it instead of the “Live feel” that VH1 had. But Eddie’s guitar playing was still awesome as always.

    @iwannaberr – not a fan of “Ice Cream Man” Really?!? Why? Seriosly why? Eddie is on fire!

    @Bluesbro – That sucks man, that’s too bad. At least you can replace the shoes. And you didn’t waste time making them yourself like I used to do with red converse and fabric paint. Lol.
    Super jealous about the ‘78 show, man. That’s way better than shoes or magazines dude.

    @Fletch5150 – “Are those pictures copyrighted by neil zlozower?” Ha ha,ha – I was thinking the same thing.

    @Rick Pride – I’ve noticed the strange disappearances of comments too. I don’t know man, it’s a conspiracy I guess. But the talk of censorship here is something I completely disagree with, even if some comments can be annoying, (particularly the angry name-calling ones) but without a doubt mine are probably annoying to some too.
    But I’ll never believe in any form of censorship.

    “If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all.” –Noam Chomsky

    I know this was another loooong post, sorry. Maybe better luck next time. But it’s my ONLY post on this particular news story……so far….eeesh.

  • PasadenaKid

    Nice read about one of the greatest rock debut albums of all time, although nothing was revealed that hasn’t been mentioned in past articles. I would love to see “Van Halen I” featured on VH1′s (no pun intended) “Classic Albums” series (if it still exists). I watched the shows on Pink Floyd’s “Dark Side of the Moon” and Def Leppard’s “Hysteria” and liked them a lot. “VH I” certainly deserves a full hour documentary with in-depth interviews from band members and Ted Templeman about making that legendary LP.

    I still get pissed when I don’t hear enough acknowledgment about Dave’s contributions to early Van Halen success. Most articles seems to focus on Eddie’s talent and Dave is briefly mentioned as a doctor’s son who owned a PA system the brothers rented out. Without Dave, Van Halen never would’ve achieved their enormous popularity in such a short period of time. By Eddie’s own admission, Mammoth’s set list was mostly long trippy Cream jams that weren’t exactly drawing huge crowds. Only when Roth joined the crew did they start to attract a lot of attention in Southern CA. Dave convinced the band they needed to play shorter, melodic, catchy tunes that “people could dance to”. Like it or not, Dave also convinced the band that flashy clothing and showmanship were essential since up to that point Ed & Al were wearing jeans & t-shirts onstage. Gotta “look like the music sounds” as Dave used to say. Basically, Dave was in charge of everything outside of writing the music and it paid huge dividends.

    As far as new music, I think we need to accept the fact that rock n’ roll is a young man’s game. How else do you explain that VH hasn’t released new material since 1998 (wont even mention the putrid Van Hagar tunes in 2004 or the porno soundtrack)? Yet, this same band cranked out six multi-platinum albums in only 7 years (accompanied by six sold-out world tours) when they were young and hungry. Eddie calls all the shots now and he’s too distracted with banging his new wife, watching Wolfie’s testicles drop, and shooting cameo TV appearances for his celebrity pals. It’s probably a good thing because his playing has been uninspired since “5150″. “VH 3″ was awful enough….we don’t need another 4 or 5 shitty albums to completely tarnish the legacy of the mighty Van Halen.

    At this point, if VH never makes another album I will be happy as a pig in a poke. They gave us those six legendary Roth-era albums and I highly doubt anything the band creates these days will come close to that creative genius. Launching a few more reunion tours wouldnt be a bad thing since today’s music is so repugnant and stale anyway. I don’t know about y’all, but the only thing I want in return for my VH concert ticket is two hours of reliving good memories from my youth and celebrating the greatest rock music ever produced (1978-1984).

  • chris

    I remember when Sammy “left” or whatever, Ed and Al called him lazy and mocked his work ethic. …ironic.

  • http://www.cabowabo.com No Mas Tony

    Kudos to Guitar World and Joe Bosso for an edifying article. This was so much better than the utter crap they print in Rolling Stone. Bosso seems to actually understand the principles of Van Halen. Gave props to Mike Anthony as well, BRAVO.

    Dare I say that I always liked VHII better. BUT, VHI has a special place in my heart and cd case. Someone said it earlier, how the music was the paramount driving force of the band. If they could get things back into perspective, wouldn’t that be awesome. Ed would just get in the studio and jam. Not care what anyone else was doing, just creating it in the moment… electrifying. Their GREATEST ALBUMS are the ones that took the least time. What’s that tell you? With rock music, over-thinking just dulls the process.

    Music doesn’t lie. If there is something to be changed in this world, then it can only happen through music.
    • Jimi Hendrix

  • SCAR

    Give it a rest drama queens!!! Catch a buzz and mellow the fuck out – it will do you some good!!!

  • J5150C

    Why won’t some of you people just give in and accept the fact that we may actually never see new material??? You keep saying things as if you owned 5150 and Ed’s guitars and his picks and his stripes and his… you name it! Ed is NOT reading any of this shit we are writing… maybe Wolfie and his buddies are, but then again, they would never give a squirt of piss for our comments. I love Van Halen and everything they’ve done for rock and roll, but let’s just let it go. If new shit comes out, so be it and enjoy. If not, however, enjoy what we have.

  • DiamondDean

    Piper wld of been great , maybe the greatest band of all time if anyone had heard of them……………

    Now lets move on to ANGEL didnt they use to wear all white ??? like WARRANT in the heaven video??? n they did that like 10 yrs b4 Warrant!!!! , see ground breaking stuff , n from all reports when they heard HOW MANY SAY I , they tried to beat VAN HALEN into the studio to record it , again VH beat them , talk about lightning striking twice hey?

  • pushtoshove

    Other than Hendrix..I never really liked it when guitarists closed their eyes during a solo…It felt like they were lying to me…Van Halen never did that…he looked right at you and smiled as if to say…” How Do You Like That?!?”

  • http://news@vhnd.com TubbyTuba

    There’s a video clip, albeit, don’t blink or you’ll miss it, brief of that VH 78 Oakland show. If you’ve got a Btb Silver Stallion DLR boot of his Camden 2002 you can see it during the preshow montage. It’s about a half minute in after the Arnold Schwarzeneger flex and the 82 Lion logo. Live motion footage, not a still, of Dave from behind with his arms raised in the air looking out to the crowd. To his right you can see Mike for a brief moment, also. Wonder if that’s that with that?

  • arthur_bishop1972

    I love how every VHND release (the comments section) devolves into ‘Where’s the new album?’ or ‘Dave vs Sammy’.

    Thx to those of you throwing some humor into the mix.

  • Jeremy

    To those who post intelligent stuff on here; I applaud you!

    To those who post retarded stuff on here; why?

    Here’s the problem with Van Halen and i said this in an earlier post.

    Eddie and Alex are to blame for Van Halen’s issues. Some blame Dave or Sammy or even that guy Gary, but the bottom line is that it’s Eddie and Alex’s fault. These guys have a vision on what they want for Van Halen, which is fine, but if the 2 singers mentioned above who have, has, or had a problem with the music, Eddie got pissed. Not sure if it’s true, but from reading stuff over the years, I believe it’s true.

    The problem here is that Dave and Sammy did something after they left Van Halen. Gary is too, which was where he should’ve stayed, and yet so is Mikey with Chickenfoot. These guys have nothing to prove as some of you have stated, but why make music then? Why go on tours, still sell out arenas and merchandise, but yet still say you got decades worth of stuff and not release it?

    Once Dave realized his career was going down, what did he do to get it going again? He went out on tour with Sammy Hagar to get himself back out there. Then he faded again until he finally went back to Van Halen AFTER Sammy was out again. Who do you think makes those decisions folks? I don’t care if the name Van Halen bears their last name, but seriously, look at the writing on the wall.

    Sammy has been out there doing it ever since he left Van Halen. Not because he has anything to prove, but because he loves playing and making music. Dave did the same until it faded for him. If Eddie wants to call it quits, I’m happy for him and i thank him for 30 years of music memories.

    But he needs, yes needs, to put out a press release saying whats going on at least. Not a press release of the new Van Halen tampons, but about the band and the music if there is any being made.

    All you fans have to do is read the beginning of this article to understand why we’re pissed about no new music.

    Quoting Eddie here:

    “I think the thing that separated me and the rest of the band from everybody else was the fact that we just loved to play,” Eddie recalled. “That’s the thing: you don’t work music, you play music.”

    If Eddie would remember 30 years ago what he did then, like what he’s doing now pushing merchandise from 30 years ago and playing songs from 30 years ago, he might actually get it. Just play some new music for the fun and love of it for once! Get the BAND back together! The ORIGINAL VAN HALEN!

    Do one big reunion tour with the original lineup, thank all of us for sticking around and retire. We will all be on here the next day saying: “THAT’S WHY VAN HALEN IS THE GREATEST!”

    They’re great now, but are fading fast and faster everyday! So to those who think Van Halen doesn’t owe us shit, why are you on here then? We, the FANS, deserve respect from those we give our respect to! I guess some people’s parents didn’t teach their kids that way of life!

  • Chad

    Cool article.

    But now we know why Alex’s drum solos suck:
    “My brother [Alex] would go out at 7 p.m. to party and get laid, and when he’d come back at 3 a.m., I would still be sitting in the same place, playing guitar. I did that for years.”

  • dude

    @Panama Red:
    Totally agree about the recording style of VH1 (and most of the Dave era stuff). But VH1 just really takes the cake. It’s like the urge to play and blast through the songs was what they wanted to do and recording the stuff was just a side bonus.

    In this day and age, I wonder how another album with that vibe would go over. I’ve commented before that I think that’s what the industry needs right now (a good butt-kicking of raw guitar solid song writing) but for VH, they may want to try to appeal to newer fans by doing the over-production thing. Can’t blame a band for evolving and it’s definitely true that fans’ love of older albums is not always just about the music itself, but also about the personal memories associated with it. Let’s face it but most of us long-time fans were in our youth when VH burst onto the scene and therefore the early VH became the soundtrack to the rest of our lives. Hey, thankfully, we got VH instead of Britney Spears!

    Waxing on. Sorry.

    I’m good with the VH I already have. Nothing VH or any other band releases will ever have the same impact. I’m good with that – but I’m still dreaming of Eddie plugging the original Frankenstrat into an old Marshall again … That would really be the best statement they could make.

    Rock on.

  • SCAR

    Here is a big box of man pads for all you whinny cry baby haters out there! If I were EVH, the only thing I would owe the cry babies and haters is a swift kick in the ass!!! You cry babies need to man the fuck up and quit acting like a bunch of wussies!!!! No wonder why some of you pathetic losers can’t get laid – YOU ARE TOO BUSY WHINING AND CRYING!!! Golly jeepers, nothing makes a woman feel more secure than a whinny cry baby – lol!!!

  • skutch

    VH2 kills VH1, IMHO.

  • RickieVanWhalen

    Even though I swear by Fair Warning, VH1 is the alltime classic rock album. End of story.

  • http://www.glance-music.nl Jero

    The best band ever! And in Dutch: Eddie en Alex jullie zijn het export produkt op muziekgebied.

  • McD’s

    I’m not pissed off at Eddie for not releasing new music. It’s the fact, as fans, we are in limbo.
    If Eddie has had enough of the music industry (as one of his interview indicated), then just announce that Van Halen is retiring..end of story.
    Yes it would suck, but at least we know where he stands.

    It’s the quotes in mags, etc. that he has tons of new music..we’re still a band, etc. that keeps this drama going.
    If you are band, release new music or tour (even a low-key leisurely tour) hit some clubs for intimate shows, do something musical!
    f your done..let us know so the fans can quit bitchin’ about it!

  • Bort

    I actually now come on to see if there is Chickenfoot news. Tired of the new tee shirts, same news from 30 years ago crap that goes along with every Van Halen post. Wake me up for Van Halens “Chinese Democracy”.

  • Jim

    The last I knew, Ed said that VH was going to release new material. The plan the entire time was to tour in the mid-later part of 2010 in support of a new album. There is nothing indicating that won’t happen.

    VH was never a band that would drop updates on status every week. With VH, it has always been “no news is good news.”
    I don’t understand why everyone apparently put a deadline on them and thus have come to the conclusion that their will be no new music.

    It should be understood that making a new album with Roth wouldn’t be something done in a month. Ed’s hand delayed everything by about 6 months. It’s critical and VH understands this, that the new album not be pieced together. The last word I heard was that they for the most part had a bunch of songs ready and they were trying to reach a deal with a label. In addition, you could also assume that they probably are tinkering different songs and adding here and there and are not in a rush to get it out. The timing is going to coincide with the tour, either midway thru or when it starts. There is also the relationship building with Roth that is continuous. How do we know that Roth is ready to do whatever and whenever?

  • VH Encyclopedia

    As a fan of the band for the past 30+ years, I have always felt I was part of the Van Halen family. I’m in my 40′s now and I too have kids of my own. I’ve shared the music, videos and even the Guitar Hero game with them, but now I think it’s time to come clean with the fans. If they are “secretly” recording new music, let the fans know. At least gives us “Wow, wait ’til you hear the new tunes.” If we are at the end of the line, say so. The fans would rather hear you say “Well, we’re pushing 60 now and decided to hang it up.” Eddie might still be playing sax somewhere at a local club, but the rest of us have moved on. I know most of the fans have, except for the few remaining diehards.

  • Fat Cat

    I went to the store and bought a bottle of Makers Mark and drank it. Now it’s gone. The makers of Makers Mark owes me a new bottle. Where is it? Why wont they bring it to me?

    It’s been snowing alot where I live and it’s cold outside. Where’s the sun? Why won’t it come out already? Doesn’t it know I miss it! Why doesn’t it just let me know it’s done and never coming out again, at least then I could move on with my life!

    I love the old Woody Wood Pecker cartoons,but the cartoonist won’t draw him anymore. Other cartoonist still draw crappy cartoons for people who don’t watch them. I know he can still draw but it’s probably work for him instead of enjoyment! I should just read the writing on the wall!

    Oh Well! IT’S FRIDAY, VAN HALEN IS CRANKING IN THE BACKGROUND, MY ICE IS MELTING AND MY YOUNG LADY FRIEND NEEDS ATTENTION!!!!!!!

    Enjoy your tears!!!!!!!

  • PasadenaKid

    Some of you assholes in here are just fucking CLUELESS…..

    Basically, you can’t trust anything Eddie says. We all learned this during the 1996 MTV Awards debacle, and it’s been a continuous string of lies from his cigarette-stained teeth ever since. Here are just a sampling of lies Eddie has foisted on us in the last 15 years:

    “Sammy wanted to be a solo artist”
    “We’re not a nostalgia act”
    “Going out on tour with Dave without a new record would be ripping the fans off (’07-’08 tour?)”
    “Two songs with Dave and then maybe cut a new record”
    “Gary Cherone is my musical soulmate for life”
    “I wrote enough new music for 10 albums (said in 2000)”
    “We’ll have some new stuff for ya soon (said in 2001)”
    “Working with Sammy is great (Hagar left again in 2004)”
    “We’ll be touring with Dave and a new record (2007)”

    Are you detecting a pattern yet? As much as I love Edward for creating all that awesome music, he sucks as a person. Dave said it best — “Ed Van Halen without a guitar in his hands is a lousy human being”. I’m not sure what his personality malfunction is. He doesn’t seem very bright in interviews, but I think it’s mainly the curse of being successful over many years despite becoming more and more erratic in his musical production and declining commercial viability. He can piss all over the fans and we still line up like sheep to buy concert tickets. When he was young, he was hungry and wanted to prove something to the world. Now that he’s a living legend, he feels he’s entitled to continued wealth & fame regardless of how much he lies to us. Just watch the shocking NAMM 2003 appearance on YouTube for proof of how shitty his attitude towards us has become.

    So please stop all the “Throw us a bone, Eddie” posts. Eddie is not a Twitter addict or Facebook goober. He could care less if we know about what’s been happening at the 5150 studio lately. A productive day for him is smoking a few packs of cigs, chugging some Schlitz malts, and noodling. If him and Dave can stop bickering and cook up some tasty new shit, I’m all for it. If not, then let it be. It was a hell of a ride.

  • Panama Red

    I have a pretty strong inclination that they are working on a new album. But who knows how long it will be until we get to hear the finished product. Sometimes Eddie talks in a positive light, like he wants to move forward and make new music, and sometimes it seems like he just doesn’t give a shit anymore. So who knows?
    There have been many times where Ed, Al, or Dave said something about the upcoming future of VH which never came into fruition or materialized. So I don’t fucking know what to think anymore. Maybe the feeling I get that they’re working on new stuff is just the hope I have.

    Whatever, I’m not losing any sleep over it but it will be really cool if they come out with a new album with DLR. I hope they can get along long enough to do a whole album and tour. That seems harder and harder these days for them to do. It’s seems so strange to me really.
    Maybe their friendships have dissolved to the point that it’s just business now, so it’s not much fun and it’s hard to get inspired to make music. I hope not, because I honestly can’t see anybody singing for Van Halen besides Dave or Sammy.

    @ Chad. Are you serious about Alex’s drum solo’s? I’ve always been in awe of his solo’s that I’ve seen and I’ve always considered him one of the best rock drummers around. You must be one hell of a drummer.

  • Adam

    Pasadena Kid & Jim (and everyone),

    You two said that Ed promised us a new album. I’ve read that here countless times – people on here think Ed said this.

    I want to clarify something: Eddie DID NOT say that he is making an album! The last time Ed said, in ANY interview, that they were working on an “album” was 1999!! That was 11 years ago, with Gary Cherone. But I see the fans say it on VHND over & over, and I think the more people read this, the more they think that Ed actually did say this.

    The closest he ever came to saying anything about a new album was June 2009 when he told Rolling Stone: “Dave, Wolfie, Alex and I are going into the studio and record some new music…”

    Many people mistakenly think that quote meant there will be a new album coming out some day. But bands (especially Van Halen!!) often go into a studio and record music and not end up releasing it, or instead release just one or two new tracks.

    So who knows. But he definitely never promised that a “new album” was ever going to come out. I myself haven’t been expecting a new album for about a decade now. It’s too bad that so many people are under the false impression that he promised an album.

    For 20 years they recorded heavily and toured heavily. 20 years. Those days are over. Everything that Van Halen has done since 1998, and anything that they might do in the future is all the “cherry on top.”

  • Spinblastr

    EDDIE!!!! PLEASE, IF YOU”RE OUT THERE, JUST ANSWER US!!!!! WILL THERE BE A NEW VH ALBUM OR NOT?????

  • Van Foot

    Spin,

    No worries, don’t fret so much over the new album or the lack thereof. There are other artists out there committed to keeping the rock alive during a very difficult period for musicians. I’ve read many posts and been a Van Halen Fan since the early 80′s. My take may be a little different than others with regard to Eddie’s inability to pull things together.

    As an artist, and a guy that plays r-n-r in a band with a good group of guys, I sense that Eddie may have difficult being creative while sober. Practicing, recording, and writing take up an inordinate amount of time and can be quite boring. Eddie has, from what I’ve read and understand, always been under the influence while writing and recording music. On top of his addiction, he’s also smoked his way into surgery to remove cancerous tissues from his mouth. In the midst of his treatment, Ed provided some excuse about metal picks and being in the midst of sound waves and radiation in the studio as THE cause for his cancer (if I remember that correctly). I thought the excuse was convenient to continue the smoking habit and shrug off criticism.

    Ed’s dad, Jan, struggled with addiction as well and Eddie learned (socially) from an early age to pound more alcohol and drugs to sidestep issues. His passive-aggressive style has surely led to issues with everyone that’s ever worked with EVH, including his brother. Go back to the stories of Mick Jones and his production of 5150…he recants how Ed and Al would act like animals when Jan showed up and throw fists at each other. Pulling the lens back a little, there was likely a dysfunctional mess going on between family members and band mates.

    In my opinion, Ed can’t be creative and sober at the same time. Whether the issues are psychological or physical, I don’t believe that he can stay in a studio without craving a bump or a dozen beers. Listen to the interviews of the past decade. In most of them, in my opinion once again, he sounded fucked up and from another planet. While he blamed some of this on his tongue (the slurring), his ramblings didn’t make sense and were comical to the casual observer.

    EVH has let some critical years pass by, in his prime, with very little to show for it. With that said, the new Dave Matthews is very good, Shinedown continues to impress (they toured with Van Halen in ’04), Alice in Chains came out with a pretty good album (toured with VH also), and there are some bright spots in rock-n-roll. Creed getting back together was refreshing, even though I like Alter Bridge, and Chickenfoot gave us some pretty good tunes for a first outing.

    Why you would want Eddie to answer you is interesting. PasadenaKid summed it up pretty well in his post. Regardless of what Ed says, there is a whole other side that we won’t/don’t understand. EVH has said many things that never came to fruition, why would an answer today be any different.

    VH gave us some great years and for that I’m thankful. With regard to the past 12 years of drama from one of the best rock-n-roll bands in my lifetime…wasted time.

    Sammy wrote it best when scripting “It’s About Time” and that time passed as well…

  • arthur_bishop1972

    How great would your social skills be if you spent 8-12 hours a day playing guitar during your formative (teen) years and the spent the next 25 recording, touring, drinking and partying??

    It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that dealing with people (without having a guitar in your hands to do the talking) would be one of your achilles’ heels.

    Not defending EVH or ragging on the guy, but that’s the reality imo.

  • Atomic Pete

    I think they should make a cheaper version of the Frankenstein
    replica. Also make an affordable replica of the Ibanez
    chainsaw job pictured above.While they’re at it lets release a
    “guitar only” version on =VH= 1. Record company’s are always
    whining about profits so here is a way to re-sell what they
    already have.Also “guitar only” Blizzard of Ozz. VHND you should create a forum so that us fans can discuss different =Vh= topics. Like a separate forum for the Dave VS Sammy whiners and a forum for us guitaroids and =VH= trivia buffs.
    Have a great weekend peeps!Gotta move do to fire. AAHHG!

  • Steve

    To those saying that Ed never said a new album was coming. He may not have but his manager did. New alum and tour for 2010. Ed authorized the comments. Hold tight people they were supposed to start in June but that could have gotten delayed for any reason including Ed’s hand surgery. Give them at least 1 year to complete a record before you start complaining already!

  • Dooley

    Like John Belushi (R.I.P.) said in Animal House…

    “It ain’t over till we say it’s over!!”

  • Adam

    Steve,

    Actually you are incorrect. This is a prefect example of what I was saying – the FANS talking about a “new album” so often that they start to believe that Eddie actually SAID they would have a new album, evn though Ed NEVER said that.

    I know the instance you are thinking of – last September when VH manager Irving Azoff slipped up and mentioned something about VH planning on touring in 2010. But he said NOTHING about any new music. Here is every word of the article:

    http://www.vhnd.com/2009/09/09/van-halen-to-hit-the-road-in-2010/

    “From Pollstar:

    Van Halen Tour?
    Posted on Wednesday September 9, 2009 at 12:01 PM

    Van Halen will hit the road in 2010, Ticketmaster Entertainment CEO Irving Azoff announced during the 2009 Bank of America Merrill Lynch Media, Communications and Entertainment Conference Sept. 9.

    This was not expected to be the time when the next VH tour would be announced, but some lines got crossed and the information was brought during the Q&A.”

    So, again, nothing was said about new music. But over time, your memory changed the story to include talk of a new album.

    The last time Ed said anything about a “new album” was in 1999 when they were recording what would have been their second album with Gary Cherone.

  • Dooley

    VH 1 is down in history as a true stand out debut album. I’d be hard pressed to name another band’s debut as even in the same league. However, props to Jimi Hendrix for “Are You Experienced?” in 1967 and Ed and Al’s countrymen Golden Earring for “Moontan” in 1972. “Radar Love” was on that one and later they did “Twilight Zone”, both still gettin good air time on the radio. “Candy’s Goin Bad” “Vanilla Queen” “Are You Receiving Me” deserve air time, but nowadays radio stations stick to their narrow play lists, unfortunately.

  • VH3

    I Just saw the new MJ movie, it was filmed during rehearsal’s before his death. the girl who plays the solo on beat it kicks ass, you could tell she did her homework.