Top ten stadium rock bands, part 4 - Van Halen
Tuesday, 6 October 2009
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October 6th, 2009 at 10:33 am
LOL! Well, they did get Dave back…however in true VH form (dysfunctional) Mike is gone! They will never get it right. Thats why we love them. We keep coming back to see the saga. This is like a soap opera such as days of our lives or general hospital that has been going on for 20+ years since the first Roth split. VH is OUR Soap Opera! And I will continue to tune in!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 10:44 am
OMG…. Sammy Hagar being described as “a Bette Midler look-alike” …too funny…yeah a mix between a french poodle & Bette Midler.. w/ better pipes though… Not the stage presence that Dave exuded though…I would have expected a better showing of the Van Halen Concert Experience though; Eh, what can you expect from British TV…
October 6th, 2009 at 10:53 am
It’s all there - and it’s all accurate.
The only thing I would add is that I think Dave’s solo career produced some excellent music, and he should be given some credit for taking some chances and making some stars of his musicians too.
This clip may not be as appreciated in its entirety by those that don’t want to hear that VH was an unqualified success with Sammy. They will only want to hear the parts that were flattering to Dave. However, both are true.
Enjoy!
October 6th, 2009 at 11:01 am
At least they mention and acknowledge Sammys part in the band, unlike the VH camp who completely dismisses it!
October 6th, 2009 at 11:14 am
I don’t think thats quite true, they’re just doing what they did when Sammy joined which to basically forget any previous work with Dave ever happened, save about 3 songs.
Dave’s first two albums were great, but I think when Vai and Sheenan left the magic of his solo career went with it. Well, that and at the time he was majorly overshadowed by Van Halen.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Oh Van Halen I will never get sick of watching old clips, videos and of course your music. I still listen to Cathedral all the time for therapeutic purposes. Please let the rumor be true and tour again in 2010!
October 6th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Dave was the best.Everyone wanted to be dave!His workouts in the 80’s at the jet centre were amazing!! LONG LIVE THE KING!
October 6th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Dave Mustaine summed it up.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I can’t take anymore of this rehashed nonsense. Just give us some new music already.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I hated “California girls” and the other bullshits! At that time Dave was embarassing. I was happy when they joined Sammy! I wish they contiuned with Sammy forever! They all 4 together was great!
October 6th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Pete: I agree with you on the solo career remark 100%.
To start off, “Eat em’ and Smile” although not a masterpiece was a great start for dave’s solo career after leaving VH. He was also very smart. He hired the best guns in town and made sure the record was fast and in your face. And that it was. What was cool about that record was that it sounded NOTHING like VH. It had a distinct and orginal sound to it which stuck with me. Even his voice sounded more savage. Let me tell you….the critics liked it too. It was pure dave.
Now…as much as I will always feel that “Skyscraper” is a very weak and dull album there are some stellar tracks that stand out. An example is: “Hina”. It’s such an underated song man. Everytime I play it, I ask myself why this was never released as a single. ??? What a cool song. Always reminds me of summer….
I also agree with you when you mentioned that his solo career was never the same after sheenan and vai left. Dave was becoming too much keyboard orientated (which was odd since dave was never a fan of keyboards in VH) and his direction of where he wanted the music to go clashed with vai. Sometimes guys…magic only lasts for a little while. Eiether way dave’s solo career did NOT suck! Granted, “A little aint enough” and “Your filthy little mouth” did really nothing for me but you have to give respect where respect is due. The man took chances when many were jumping on bandwagons and selling out left anf right. “To this day” I have not seen dave sell out to make himself more accesable so to say. He’s been there done that….many many many times.
Bennythejet: I remember the early 80’s like it was yesterday brother and you’re right! EVERYONE wanted to be dave (and “eddie” to make the rest of you happy!
)and I heard that dave was damn good at kick boxing! I’ll tell you…for a rockstar the man looked unbelievable. Makes you wonder since half his body was made out of jack, blow, marlboro’s, and weed! LOL! Sheeeeet……
KTC5150: hey brother! Ever wonder why sam was branded with looking like bette midler? He let her use of his songs for the movie : “the rose” (absolute garbage by the way)which she sings live during it. Yeah…before sam joined VH he was nothing more than an inside joke. Then he joins VH and becomes, “as howard stern once dubbed him” : hagar the horrible. This is all the truth. Do your homework sammy fans b4 you start spittin’ all that “hater” homeboy talk.
Sam was always a joke.
Long live david lee roth. The last frontman to still “have it” in his 50’s next to jagger…
October 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Dave is in shape still! Sammy has man boobs. Eddie ROCKS and Alex ROLLS!!
October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
I just wish the two camps would shut the hell up. Van Halen is Van Halen, no matter who’s singing. As long as Eddie is playing and Alex is playing along side him, it’s Van Halen.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
RaineFilms:
So if “kelly clarkson” sang for VH it would still be VH?
October 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
not kelly clarkson! maybe shakira, she’s got a nice ass!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Yep. Because VH isn’t associated with any particular group of people, we learned that when Sammy joined, because millions of young, new people started listening. Music is for whoever wants to listen to it, so don’t think that VH was only good with one particular lead singer, they were good because of the music they made, and the people who chose to listen to them to make them multi-platinum artists.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Ducky: YES!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Karl:
You’re too much man!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I was one of those kids who lived in the Midwest and a guy moves in who was from California. I was 13 in 1979, and I remember like it was yesterday as I was staring at the album cover and he laid the needle on the record. Obviously, my life was never the same. I’ve heard this was very common back then, as many midwest radio stations weren’t giving them the airplay they deserved. As osmosis took them nationwide, the FM stations had to pay attention to all the request they were getting from guys like me.
I’m a Dave fan. I’m glad Hagar was there to fill in and keep the music coming, and I’m one who liked him before VH. But to me Dave was VH as much as the brothers. Hell, he’s the one that named the band after them!
I delivered a motorcycle to a guy out in LA 2 years ago. I can’t remember his name, but after noticing the VH sticker on my truck, he said he played drums for Roth. Must’ve been after Bissonette. This, of course, blew me away, and I started pelting him with questions. He answered a few, but I could tell he was holding back. He left me with this statement; “Roth has a lot of skeletons in his closet”, and with that he gave me a sideways glance, and that was it. I have a feeling I know what he meant, but I won’t repeat it. It might ruin his image in our minds.
Anyone know who played drums after Bissonette?
That said, I saw the boys twice on the reunion tour, early in Indianapolis, and the last show in Grand Rapids. The difference was very apparent. Much better, cleaner playing after the tour break. From what I’ve seen from all the footage on YouTube and other sources, I think the last show in Grand Rapids was their best. Dave sounded better than I’ve ever heard him, EVER! Check out the vid on YouTube “Everybody Wants Some” in Grand Rapids, you’ll see what I mean.
The only thing that bothers me still is Mikey. I thought Wolfie did fine, but I could hardly hear him, both shows. And his vocals were good, but not nearly up to Mike’s standard. I paid for the “Gold Package” for the last show and got the “backstage” tour. Mostly we just got to look in Wolfie & Daves sidestage room, and Ed’s, which made it worth it. (Ed smokes American Spirit cigs now). The guy giving the tour was Wolfie’s tech. I asked him to turn up Wolf’s feed, and he gave me a dirty look. Mike backing vocals and harmonies with Ed in the early years was a huge part of their sound. There’s something missing without him.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
the time for talk is done,a tour without new tunes is just another money grab and more of been there done that.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Kelly Clarkson?? I’m goin’ with for Averil Levine…
October 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I like Dave, but he can lick the dirt of Sammys shoes. Sammy Hagar the best with Van Halen, and Van Halen the best with Redrocker!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
I think my point was missed…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
avril lavigne is hot! how bout miley cyrus? she’s almost legal!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
DLR and Van Halen are the original!
Their music was and is meaner and leaner with DLR. The new tour proved it!
October 6th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
It would be cool if Vanhalen would play some of Daves solo stuff live, like they did with sammy.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
well in real life dave is a asshole and sammy is cool
October 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Sammy is a better singer than Dave. Sammy kept Van Halen going for ten great years. Bring him back
October 6th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
This clip is very old, some newer material was obviously missed.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Eddie is and always be Van Halen. Everyone else is expendable.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I LOVE YOU DLR<3
I think both of them bring something special..Sammy can’t be Dave and Dave can’t be Sammy. Its all preferance you know?
I like that they have Dave back now tho…they cracked the surface with the first VH album and it is legendary. Rock was never the same after that. And to have that magic reunited playing all those epic tunes onstage again? I never thought I would see the day.
Long live VH!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Who are this jag offs I know one guy is a photog please! Next time do a piece on VH with people who were there or where involved not these clowns simply commenting on the group! Garbage but news none the less
October 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Sick4Tunz: +1
October 7th, 2009 at 1:10 am
“one was a musician and one was a showman”. Maybe that’s oversimplifying things *quite* a bit?
October 7th, 2009 at 4:29 am
VAN HALEN with dave is classic rock! When roth was in VH they were spoken in the same breath as LED ZEPPELIN,KISS,AC/DC….With hagar they were a pop rock band. I still listened to van halen because it’s eddie. Dont get me wrong,they were a good band with sammy but no where near the LEDGEND they were with dave!
October 7th, 2009 at 5:30 am
DUCK - well said, but when I say I like Dave’s solo stuff, I mean ALL of it. People sometimes like to crap on stuff that doesn’t sell, but like Eddie said about the album 5150: “we knew it was good, but we didn’t know if it would sell…but there’s lots of things that are good and don’t sell.”
Very true. Lately I’ve been listening to “Your Filthy Little Mouth” and “DLR Band” CDs. Both are fantastic, but neither sold very well. Who the hell cares? Actually, I’m listening to the title track “Your Filthy Little Mouth” right now, and I think it’s awesome.
Hey everyone, I used to have a bootleg of Dave’s YFLM tour where he was playing a very small venue. I think it was recorded for a radio broadcast. Anyway, does anyone have it on CD? I’d be happy to trade some VH bootlegs for a copy of this or any other Dave, Sammy, or VH boots.
Cheers!
Pete
October 7th, 2009 at 5:58 am
If you dont like dave that’s fine.
But to say that he wasnt a huge part of VH or the sound? Sorry, but you dont know shit about rock music…
Quote me on that one!
October 7th, 2009 at 7:35 am
What is it that you yanks like to say NUFF SAID!!! The Van Halen people know best, is Van Halen with Roth. THE REAL VAN HALEN!!! AMEN!!
“One is a musician and the other is a showman” I think Dave & Eddie wouls be the first to agree with that.
That’s what is so unique and original about Van Halen and that’s why they are still around and have survived. Let’s not forget in the late 70’s when Van Halen arrived Led Zeppelin were kings. There were so many Led Zep wannabe’s/clone’s around then, and they all crashed and burned!!!
October 7th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Rainefilms:
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe it will make more sense once you say it over and over gain. Gimmie a break man…
When cherone joined VH album sales dropped BIGTIME. Why? Gary’s got a great set of pipes. Good frontman.
Anwser: cause a large majority of fans couldnt stomach a “3rd” lead singer.Because of this? VH’s first and “only” GOLD record. It just didnt fly with the fans. I’m telling you a NEW 4th lead singer would be the end of VH. Especially with VH guitar hero coming out any day now and of course their very succesful reunion tour with dave. It would make no sense and I think many here (dave and sam fans) would be done with VH for good.
You can always tell which fans on this site have been around a long time and grew up with the group. When people make comments about “it doesnt matter who sings, it will always be VH to me” they just dont “get it” man. These people have obviously NEVER felt the impact that VH made in the beginning…
October 7th, 2009 at 8:18 am
All of DLR’s solo stuff rocks!!! It doesn’t matter if it was a cover tune or original, he kicked ass!!!!!! From Easy Street to Big Trouble to Stand Up to Sensible Shoes to Sunburn to Wa Wa Zat to Soul Kitchen and every song in between, DLR proved he could rock the house all by himself!!!!!!!!
October 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Bette Midler look-alike….that is funny. I do like Sammy’s Ford GT though.
October 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
clubfootkelly:
When are you gonna learn man that “better pipes” doesnt mean a “better” show…
Looks like someone needs some schoolin’!
October 7th, 2009 at 9:44 am
In my humble opinion…one only needs to watch the 1st song on “Live Without a Net” to confirm that the chemistry between Sam and Ed at one time was amazing. Sammy may have gained a few pounds but he’s a true rocker where Dave is a pretty boy with a gimmick. After all, VH survived Dave’s solo career just fine where many thought it would be the other way around. The musical talent prevailed. Beers…
October 7th, 2009 at 10:10 am
How about the total nut case they call Courtney Love! Now there’s a frontman… uhhhh woman. She’d probably do the Van Halen’s before, during and after the show!
But on a serious side, Van Halen is simply Eddie! He could have done it with anybody (drummer, bassist, singer)and still would have been as huge. VH I is a guitar album to remember for the rest of music/rock and roll history.
Although I think Dave is great, we need to remember that we were asking ourselves “How the hell did he do that?” (refering to EVH)…We were not asking ourselves how Dave was screaming the way he did. Nor were we wondering how Alex and Mikey kept the rhythm section tight.
Everybody wanted to play like EVH. Everybody wanted to know the secrets to his tone and how he executed his benchmark riffs. So, let’s stop the shitty ass arguments as to who’s better or worse. Van Halen is and has always been the mighty Edward Van Halen!! Nuff Said!!
October 7th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Hey pete,i’m glad you brought up the DLR band! That was a killer cd! I saw dave @ the house of blues on that tour! The DLR cd was way better than VHIII and i thought at the time that if dave and eddie would have hooked up for a album then just think how killer it could have been! It would have been a SLAM DUNK!!!!!!!!!!
October 7th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Duck:
Sam was always a joke, huh?
All he’s done lately as CF frontman/singer is put out a top-notch album that goes alongside AC/DC’s Black Ice as best of 2009.
And what does Howard Stern really know about Hagar? All he’s done lately is cut his radio audience in half by leaving terrestial radio and going satellite. Brilliant move that was.
Dave’s solo career was notable at times, you listed a few examples. I’d add the song “Crazy From the Heat” as a good tune. But what about all those fantastic Vegas show tunes like “Just a Giggolo” and his outstanding version of the Beach Boys “California Girls”…to say nothing of the monumental “Strummin’ With the Devil” from just a few years ago. If Sam’s always been a joke, what about that stuff?
October 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I can’t believe the Sammy hater thinks that Dave’s first album didn’t sound anything like VH???
It was a total VH rip off. Sounded just like VH. Eddie even says Vai is an EVH poser.
October 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Love Dave in VH, not a hater of Sammy though. You have to admit Chickenfoot’s release is better than any of Daves solo albums. Not songs, I love most of Eat em and Smile and some of those tracks are better than Chickenfoots releases.
On a side note, when things were nearing the end with Dave and VH he really started to become chezzy and really overblown. There was a real balance with Eddie and Dave with the first 4 albums. Whatever…. they all have way more money and nice cars than we do, so they are doing something right.
October 7th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Iwannaberr:
Eat em and smile sounds NOTHING like VH’s first 6 albums.
You obviously have a grudge against dave man. Or you’re just the typical closeminded sammy fan who cant face the facts.
Read the reviews and do your homework before you call me a sammy hater. You obviously dont know shit about music pal.
And please dont tell me you’re a guitar player. There’s too many of those wannabe’s floating around this site. Tell me what perticular song on that album sounds like Vh? I cannot believe some of the clueless people who hang around here. Thank the rock gods im only here 3-4 days a week! Some of you fuckin LIVE here and think you’re a fan cause you got a fuckin’ t shirt. Please….
Dooley….yes, for many many many years sam was a joke.
It’s a fact. If I dont like something….I dont listen to it. Dont like sammy. He’s done NOTHING for me. But yes…back in the early 80’s he was dubbed bette midler and the wannabe “rambo” of rock music since most of his albums thats exactly what he was trying to be. The spokesperson for the u.s.a.
Whats funny is, if he never joined VH or introduced his tequila to the world most of you wouldnt have a clue who this guy was or give a shit. Not starting an argument here dooley just sportin’ the facts that I grew up with. The difference between me and others here is i speak the truth when it comes to facts. Sammy’s doing well with chickenfoot? Great! You havent heard me say a damn thing about them.
Sammy is a sucessful “buisness man” dooley not a rock star.
I stand by my word and dont back down for anyone.
October 7th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Dooley:
BIG p.s here!
“California girls” & “Just a gigilo” did not make dave a joke man. I dont know your age brother but back then it was pure entertainment to have those video’s on MTV. They were EXTREMELY popular and those video’s were talked about for years….still are. It’s classic stuff. Ask anyone from that era and they will tell you that dave was the man. The guy’s interviews were classic enough that you could probley sell tickets to them! So yes, compared to dave sam was a joke.
Now to be fair cause you’s know’s I’s am’s!!!!
Moments when it was hard to say I was a dave fan: (after VH)
* Many moments from the skyscraper album (”Stand up” What!!?)
* Your filthy little mouth album (I still cannot get into it)
* His $10 weed bust in central park (C’mon man…you dont have good connects?)
and yes…
* Strumming with the devil! (LOL! I love southern rock, but this was ridiculous!)
See dooley….I may have my moments but I’m the first to say when dave played the fool…
October 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Don’t believe Eddie ever said vai was an EVH poser!
October 7th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Swingin’ sinner: (cool name by the way
)
Thats because ed never made that comment.
You’re gonna find that a lot around here. Many spittin’ out what they THINK is the truth but dont have anything to back it up. It’s sad. Some just love to start drama just to feel good about themselves. Like they finally accomplished something in their puny little life.
Whatever right? I’ll stick to conversing with the people around here who have “been to the shows” and know that rock and roll aint about who’s a better singer. Those people I just have no time for. It’s just a waste to try and communicate with someone who would like to forget how this band started and focus on #1 albums. Explain that one to me…
October 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I am ready to off myself again.
October 7th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Damn that’s fun to watch!
Eddie used to be a smokin’ guitarist and really played the part well. Those times and memories are great. However, and with that said, why is the Van Halen of the past 10 years ALWAYS about looking in the rear view mirror? As others have mentioned, there’s a thousand ways to skin a cat and we’ve skinned all the kittens too!
The Van Halen of old, with Dave, Sammy, or Gary, was so exciting and to put a new album in your hands meant everything to a fan. I played VH3 all the time because of the signature sounding guitar and new riffs. Even though the album received very low marks, I was just happy to have some new shit in the CD player…same with Chickenfoot. For those that think Satriani took a step backwards, really listen to the entire album and digest some great work and gems of guitar arpeggio on the tracks. I used to be a Van Halen fan, but now I’m a fan of Van Halen, Extreme, Chickenfoot, The Waboritas, Chili Peppers, Sammy Hagar, Steve Vai, Satch, DLR, and other spin off stuff from the history of VH. I was never a big fan of Satch prior to Chickenfoot, but now I find myself looking at him differently with G3, Surfing, and a whole host of other stuff.
Some worlds have very much come together, and I have benefited. With regard to the same old VH story, it’s grown tired and boring. If you’re a guitar player and have followed Guitar One and Guitar World, there was probably a point when you got tired of reading the same old shit, the same old story, the same old tone chasing bullshit of countless articles. What came first, Eddie’s skill as a player, or his tone. I believe one begat the other…
Fuck it…I’m not getting any younger but I can’t quite get excited about Kings of Leon or Avenged. I’ll stick with the Foot.
October 7th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
I thought the”ROTH LOOK-A-LIKE” comment was funny as hell
It did make a few good points though,
I`ve seen that “bald dude” before,I guess he`s the”go to guy” for all things”metal”lol
He`s been in every Vh1 “rocdocs”&HEAVY METAL countdown episode I`ve ever seen!!
Do me a favor, if any “fellow Limeys” know this guy`s name,
spill the beans
October 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Bosox..
REDSOXRULE!!!However-(And i think RON BURGUDY would agree)
DIAMONDDAVIDLEEROTH`s SOLO work is Far More Diverse&Exploreatory than chickentoe`s 1st effort.
I`ve become familier with “the Toe”&I must agree-
It`s probably the Bestest&most closest we`ll ever
get to that “VHGR sound”
BUT just as sure as 9out of10 doctors agree-”lucky strikes”
are the safest cigarettes around,
I choose ROTH over the “TOE” any day of the week&twice on sunday
stay classy
October 7th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
everytime i get on here its bash bash bash Eddie. I just bought the new foot Cd. not to bad. music is cool. lyrics are kinda lame. Sammy grow up its not 10 times better than VH no way! I think he daid that. But it is a cool Cd since the best band ever isnt doing anything. I do agree Sammy created a pop band with VH. Dave era ROCKS……just my liking. Satch great guitar work Eddie still the best!!!!
October 7th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Bri:
According to Wikipedia, the drummer after Greg Bissonette was a guy called Tony Beard who played on “Your Filthy Little Mouth” in ‘94. Don’t know if he toured with the band though.
To be honest, I think that the albums “Van Halen” and “5150″ are the best. There is so much raw, new energy there that wasn’t replicated on later albums. It is all opinion really, there is no science behind who was a better singer (although some would say that the money brought in over the time that the singer was in the band is the key, but i disagree).
I remember reading that “Eat ‘Em and Smile” was “what 5150 should’ve been”. I think that it sounds a lot like Van Halen. Okay yeah theres no “brown sound”, but Dave pulled together one of the best rock bands he could with those guys. I think its commendable. I love 5150, but there’s no mistaking that “Eat ‘em…” was VH sounding for a reason.
October 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
EVH is VH, who cares who sings!!
October 7th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
DLR is and will always be, the greatest Ringmaster of Rock and Roll!!!
October 7th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
RICH!! Thanks! That was his name!! Trip out.
My favs are VH and Fair Warning. Mean Streets, to me, is the epitome of VH. Mean, dark, bruding, brash, and loud. I’ve always thought the fade out was way to early in that song. Ed’s tearing it up and they fading out and I’m like “Yo man, keep playing!!”.
Thanks for the info On Beard. He was a cool guy, had a way cool motorcycle. Was just neat meeting someone who was that inside to what was going on.
October 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
classic halen, van hagar, roth solo, hagar solo, montrose, chickenfoot……i raise a toast to them all!
October 7th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Dooley…..Black Ice came out in 2008.
As far as EVH playing live….you cannot beat his technique & accuracy during the 1998 tour. Just watch his Mean Street solo from any of the shows. It sounds better than the album.
He was getting back to his old self during the last 2 months of the 2008 tour, but it’s a shame they couldn’t have extended the tour until the end of 2008.
I have high hopes for Ed’s playing this next album and/or tour. With a freshly repaired hand, he could very well bring us back to the days of Fair Warning.
October 7th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Bri, what do you think are “the skeletons in the closet?” Don’t leave us hanging!
October 7th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
SCAR just posted his all time best comment!
October 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Vai was not a musician and didn’t treat his guitar as a piece of wood with strings……thats why Roth couldn’t go further with that group at the time.
October 8th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Ringostore your comment makes me believe that you are on some seriously good medication!!
October 8th, 2009 at 1:24 am
really,the dave vs sam thing again?
October 8th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Bri, no problem! I was sure that I’d read DLR’s history a couple of times. Good old Wikipedia.
Its hard to pick my favourite albums. VH1 and 5150 are definitely top notch, and its weird to think that Fair Warning, arguably the best Roth album (definitely tied with VH1) was sandwiched in-between Women and Children First, which was somewhat experimental compared to VH1 & 2, and the sleeper which was Diver Down, probably the least exciting VH album for me. The covers are good but it doesn’t really do too much for me. Love the drums on “Intruder” though. I just can’t ever get enough of Fair Warning. “One Foot Out The Door” is just one long, awesome guitar solo.
However, I think I was a bit warped getting the VH albums because the first ones I ever bought were from Austria, and it was VH1 and Best Of Both Worlds. I’m sure if I’d have heard “Unchained” on Fair Warning first it would’ve been better, but since I already knew the song it didn’t have the magic it should have on that album.
I’ve seen the Oakland stuff and it is brilliant. If Van Halen were a multi platinum band then why did it take another 4 years after that for them to officially get a concert recorded and released? Hmm, makes you wonder really.
October 8th, 2009 at 5:58 am
How about a new topic? You you think that the new VH album sound should go back as close to classic VH 1 & 2 as possible(BYW, did they try that on OU812?)? Or should EVH come up with something new and “modern”? Would the “brown sound” sound dated today? Could the brown sound even be reproduced? Gentlemen, your thoughts…….
October 8th, 2009 at 6:53 am
sammmy hagar is a complete joke- absolutely the worst front-man ever.
October 8th, 2009 at 7:21 am
The oakland shows should have a dvd release….period.
It’s so much better than “live without a net” thats for sure.
I’m hoping that ed will eventually release a dvd set or just a damn dvd featuring those shows. I mean KISS did it and I have volumes 1 and 2 and they rock. Those old shows can never be replaced. Therefor they should be on dvd.
I look at it this way: if they can release a sammy era dvd’s (Live without a net & Live right here right now) they should do something regarding the orginal lineup.
Wouldnt be suprised if there is something in the works for the holidays, but i think its just wishful thinking and im not holding my breath….
October 8th, 2009 at 9:52 am
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzz Why do we rehash this arguing for every single thread….. but I’ll join in anyway.
Dave years were stellar. Sammy years were different and stellar to many, which is fine. Both singers had huge influences on the VH sound. No question about that. Both Dave and Sam have had ups and downs in their careers.
I’m not downing Sammy, but I think Dave has taken much bigger risks in his career, because that’s just the kind of guy he is. Some went over well, some didn’t (i.e. Vegas thing, paramedic, bluegrass album). Sammy sort of always does the band thing, which is great too. I think for anyone to dog Dave’s brave endeavors really does him an injustice.
Rich, EEAS sounds nothing like VH to me. So far from it. Same with CF. That’s the intention.
BTW, the best album of 2009 was Crack the Skye. Duh….
October 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Pete, I can always count on you to put words into the mouths of the Dave fans. LOL
October 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
How come when thses topics are discussed nobody ever mentions that VH never had a #1 Album until Sammy was the singer?
Go ahead and bash me but All VH is great except about twelve minutes with some Cherone Dude.
Mark
October 8th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Mark…
Thats because #1 records werent a “priority” to rock fans back in the day. As a matter of fact if a bands album went #1 they were ususally embarrased. It wasnt until the 80’s when bands started focusing on that nonsense! During the “good ol days of rock music” all a band wanted to do was be on the cover of rolling stone. (Kinda scary since rolling stone is the biggest piece of shit rock mag out there!)
A “album” like “Everybody wants some” is not gonna be the critics choice…A “song” like “Atomic Punk” is not gonna be the critics choice. Those first 6 albums were for the fans cause thats all that mattered. Wanting a #1 album was like wanting to have your fathers wardrobe.
Now you take songs like: “Love walks in”/ “When it’s Love” / “Right now” / “Top of the world” / “Dont tell me what love can do” / “Not Enough” ect ect the critics are gonna love you. They’re gonna praise you for maturing musically and that, my friend, is when I “stop” listening.
October 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
the “momentum” was already there Mark, the album after “1984″ was destined to be #1 regardless of who was gonna sing on it.At that point in time,=VH= was as big&WORLD-WIDE asZEP,WH0,STONES,QUEEN,SABBOTH,AC/DC,KISSetc.Roth had a HUGE part in creating/shaping the “image” of the band from the pasadena backyard parties to “Superstardom”
Think of it as if Robert Plant left ZEP& was replaced by
David Coverdale,lol
Sammy Done Good,but it wasn`t the same after Dave left.
That`s a testament to how important that “specific chemestry”
is.
Shit, I sound like the “bald dude” from this clip!!lol
my beer`s empty folks,
later…
October 8th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
No, phillster. 5150 was the album after 1984, and VH gained more fans than they lost with Sam on board. His vocals were a big step-up, and there was a public that was impressed. Albums that go #1 don’t happen because of earlier momentum.
Sammy Done Good,but it wasn`t the same after Dave left.
Actually, it got better, because the attitide, showmanship and everything else that was Dave had begun to fade when tensions arose between the key players over issues like Beat It, Jump keyboards, etc. Kinda like how Aerosmith is fading right now with tensions between Joe Perry and Steve Tyler. It will be interesting to see how their two lawsuit-driven make-up concerts in Hawaii go later this month.
October 8th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I love Dave and Sammy, however I think VH would not have been as successful is Dave had stayed in the group. The music of Vh did not only change, but the Rock Scene changed and “Glam” more Radio Friendly” music was hitting Main Stream. This was more Sammys style of writing, etc. Sammy was already doing this type of music.
October 8th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
loitering in the back? thats cold….
October 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Dooley, the only reason 1984 didn’t go #1 is because of Thriller which was number 1 for over a year. 1984 sold 10 million records. 5150 sold between 5-6 million. At least get the facts straight. Obviously they didn’t win more fans if they sold half as many records.
October 8th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
dave or sam. sam or dave. both were and are great. remember one thing here boys, it’s like sports. half the country likes the yankee’s and the cowboys and the fightin’ irish and the other half hates them. selling albums doesn’t really mean shit anymore. i don’t like country music and they sell the shit out of that crap and i live in country music land.
October 8th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Good point Skutch, you’re right about that. But didn’t OU812 also hit #1? Just lucky, huh?
October 8th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
It was all about marketing at that time. All Sammy albums went to number 1. Of course 1984 would have due to the single “Jump” but as mentioned above due to MJ Thriller it didnt. Sammy albums went more mainstream targeting the Glam Metal phase and people who were not really metal or rock fans became fans due to songs like “why cant this be love” When its love” from OU812, etc. We dont know what woudl have happened to VH if dave had stayed in the group. We dont know what daves version of the 5150 album would have been. I believe that VH peaked with dave in 1984 and would have started to go down. Vh was like a fresh new band in 1986 with the same old name. Yes, 1984 sold 10 million copies and 5150 only 6 million, however, recording formats were different. 1984 did not sell 10 million in 1984. it just hit that mark a couple years ago. People upgrade their collections from vinyl to casette to CD now to online downloads. when 5150 hit, less people bought vinyl and probably purchased the album only on casette and CD maybe downloads. Meaning someone could have purchased 1984 4 times in different format compared to 5150 only 3 formats. As the 90’s came no more casettes and albums like balance were only really purchased on cd. Hell, VH 1 in 1978 could have been also issued on 8 track. i am not sure but if so, that would give it 5 formats to purchase over the years!
October 8th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
people, can we please get over this dave vs sammy thing! it is old news!!!!!
October 9th, 2009 at 5:16 am
DLR is best in VH. I do enjoy seeing Sammy in concert with Chickenfoot or Wabos (I have seen him with VH too.). As far as music I have been known to turn the radio station sometimes on a song such as “Love Walks In” however I have NEVER turned off a DLR Van Halen song.
October 9th, 2009 at 5:25 am
VH1 definitely was on 8-track. My friend had it.
October 9th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Skutch says:
October 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Pete, I can always count on you to put words into the mouths of the Dave fans. LOL
SKUTCH - was it the comment I made about Dave taking chances? (Which he did, which is what an artist does. “Business people” just churn out the same “product” so that the cash flow stays intact…are you listening Gene Simmons?)
By the way, the new KISS CD package BLOWS big-time. “Delilah” is a good tune, but the rest is a complete throwaway, and the production values are akin to my 4-track cassette recordings from when I was 14.
October 9th, 2009 at 6:44 am
sammyvanroth
I agree with you man believe me. I know that I’m part of this debate, and at times can be a little harsh when it comes to hagar. But I think the problem is there are many fans that overlook dave as a flash in the pan and thats B.S
I have nothing against sammy fans. I have a problem with sammy fans that constantly have to make jabs about dave just because sam is still making music. So what? I will always give credit when its due. Ok…sam has made more music.
But we’re not talking platinum albums people. And no, I dont hear ANY chickenfoot songs on the radio in my area. Nothing. WBAB is one of the biggest rock stations on the island and I listen at work all day long. Never even heard soap on a rope. I think it comes down to what your preference is. And I respect that. Just dont bash one of the best frontmen of all times cause he cant hold a note like sam can. These people miss the boat completely. It’s about the show. It’s about the entertainment. I mean jeez, celine dion has a great set of pipes but you wouldnt find me at any of her shows. All im saying is if you dont like dave thats fine.
Just dont say that the man didnt make an impact or wasnt a big part of van halen. If it wasnt for the many things that dave brought to the table who knows how far the band would have gone. Maybe eddie would have pulled a joe perry, released a solo album, and that would be where things stand today. Who knows! Eiether way im grateful for the orginal lineup and all the years of stellar music and good times it brought to my life. Like dave once said: remember when music made you smile? Well the orginal lineup did and like any dedicated fan I’m going to defend it. It’s nothing personal.
October 9th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Phillster:Think of it as if Robert Plant left ZEP& was replaced by
David Coverdale,lol
How TRUE!
Plant: “I come from the land of ice and snow…”
Coverdale: “I do too.”
Dawn: I have been known to turn the radio station sometimes on a song such as “Love Walks In”
I have done the same thing!!! But not on a Roth song either.
…Their a&r man said I don’t hear a single
The future was wide open…
Too much emphasis on a top ten hits with Sammy…just my opinion.
October 9th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Russ:
Yes man….lets please change the topic is right! LOL
Good question about what ed’s sound will be like if there is a new album. I’m thinking it’s gonna go two ways. I think the signature brown sound WILL be present without a doubt.
But I also think that working with dave will possibly bring out some stuff in eddie we’ve never heard before. Now we’ve heard the same old story from ed for years that “he’s got tons of music” so who knows what he’ll pull out of his hat.
All I care about is they make a record thats memorable. I dont give a shit if it beats out chickenfoot or if it becomes a #1 album. That stuff doesnt concern me. I just want a record that makes an impact. A record that brings back that unique rock sound that has been missing for almost a decade. If the chemestry is still there between roth and ed we might have one hell of an album in our hands folks. But again….its all in good time. So to sum it up? The brown sound mixed in with some new techniques that maybe make this generation put down guitar hero…pick up a real guitar and start ripping off his new licks!
October 9th, 2009 at 7:35 am
this will still be a topic 10 years from now…
October 9th, 2009 at 7:57 am
RA812: There’s only 2-3 years between 1984 and 5150! You make it seem like there’s a whole generation between them.
So no proof there.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:22 am
DLR and Sammy both rock!!! Get over it already, enjoy the music, catch a buzz, get laid and move on already!!! Note to blake - that’s get laid by a chick, o.k. cream puff?
October 9th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Ok, Dinky Dick or whatever, heres an entry I found in the first Google search I did for Eddie Van Halen Steve Vai:
“Since Roth was in a highly public battle with the Van Halen members and Vai was favorably compared by many commentators to Eddie Van Halen …”
So let’s see Genius, VH Frontman + Copycat of VH Guitarist = VH Ripoff.
It’s sad that you admit you spend 2 or 3 days a week on this site. Get a life and cut your mullet.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Cut my mullet?
LOL!
Mullets are people too man!
I still say that eat em and smile sounds nothing like VH!
Looks like I hit a nerve and that just made my day
Thanks for responding dork
October 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
P.S. You contradict yourself in your own post “Read the reviews and do your homework before you call me a Sammy hater” and the next paragraph you say “Sammy was a joke”.
“Nobody would know who he was if it wasn’t for Van Halen”.
“That’s the facts, cause I grew up with it”.
You’re an idiot. Ever heard of Montrose? Ever heard of Fast times at Ridgemont High? Ever heard of Footloose? Ever seen the movie Heavy Metal? Ever seen Dave nominated for a Grammy? Ever seen Sammy’s record sales prior to VH? Were you alive in the ’70’s.
Those are facts, moron.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Ok….lets talk
I’m the first to say that montrose was a good group.
Nothing amazing but a good group. Love “rock candy”.
Song kicks ass. BUT…montrose did not last long and im sorry man but montrose is barley played on the radio.
Never said that sam wasnt good in montrose. He became an inside joke in the early 80’s was my point. His album sales were not that impressive eiether man. Let me ask you this:
What songs are sam always remembered for before joining VH?
” Cant drive 55″ “Heavy metal” and “One way to rock”
That is it man. I’m not being difficult but anyone will tell you those are the only songs that get air play.
The fast times art ridgemont high ( one of my favourite films man) song by sammy is really not something to argue with me about. The song was lame man. No substance.
Footloose? Not a fan of the movie believe it or not so im not going there so it wouldnt be fair. Guys dont usually sit around talking about footloose with each other. Maybe my girl can talk that film with ya. I’ll take kevin bacon in the orginal friday the 13th instead.
Ever see dave nominated for a grammy? No…thank god.
Dont really listen to grammy winning music. I like rawness in my music…not sweetness.
Again sammy’s record sales were not mindblowing before VH. Yes he had a good following but so did cat stevens and now he’s found islam or whatever. Not really a valid point man.
Dave’s solo sales had surpassed sammys. At least the eat em and smile and skyscraper albums. Does this really matter?
Was i alive in the 70’s….
YES!
Only 5 years old from 75-80. I was an 80’s kid dammit!
I kinda wish I grew up in the 70’s though.
70’s through the 80’s would have rocked. But im getting off the topic and thats not fair. I’m actually in a good mood.
I have the next 3 days off.
Now i wanna beer!
October 9th, 2009 at 9:11 am
sammmy hagar is a complete joke- absolutely the worst front-man ever.
Totally disagree. I wouldn’t put him up there with Roth for the totality of entertainment, but certainly far from the worst. Saw him open up for ZZ TOP in Portland Maine in the mid 80’s. Played a good show - far more entertaining than the Top. Not great but good…even played an extra 40 minutes due to some back stage issues.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Russ:
I’m sure it was a good show.
The point ive been trying to get across is: growing up listening to the orginal line up and losing that was hard to get over. Once you hear dave and eddie for the first time it’s hard to accept any sustitute. I’ve said many many times that I dont hate sammy or his fans. I dont “like” sammy’s stage presence or music. His voice irks the shit out of me.
Why is it when someone around here doesnt like sammy or his music that person is a hater? Who started that assinine trend of talking? Sounds like rap shit to me. Ugh…
I dont know if you’re gonna agree with me but lets be honest here. Do you really remember sammy being very poular in the 80’s? Man im sorry but im being hinest…I dont. I hung out with a lot of friends OLDER brothers and no one talked about sammy. I didnt even hear the name sammy hagar until my brothers friend rich played me 5150 back in 86′.
Had sammy become successful over the years? Absolutley. No doubt. But it doesnt mean that “back in the day” that sammy hagar wasnt overshadowed by the mighty VH. All i remember was everything VH. Maybe thats why i never got into sam?
Oh whatever. Like dooley said: this will probley be the topic for the next 10 years. LOL! He’s probley right!
And I’ll still be defending dave and classic van halen. Playing the fool and left behind chained up like dave on that fence in the women and children first album….
October 9th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Oh no… it’s back to the ol’ Kirk vs. Picard (Dave vs. Sam) debate.
Set phasers on… Zzzzzzzzz.
Just put out a new album already.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Phasers set to bore.
Look at it from this point of view:
Dave w/VH = 6 Multi platinum albums
Sammy w/VH = 4 Multi platinum (#1) albums. (Not sure if RHRN was multi platinum either…)
They both did something right. People don’t just buy albums to use them as frisbees.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:47 am
and the drama continues……
October 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Fact: Van Halen are not Van Halen without Michael Anthony
Say no more.
Ed, Alex and Dave ok - but it needs Mike.
Bury the hatchet and get on with it. Its not fair on the fans, and dont forget what Ed and Alex said after the MTV award debacle - that they had no plans to tour with Dave and “rip the fans off”.
Well, they succeeded in doing just that last year. Thats why I deliberately didnt go see them, even though I had VIP tickets for the TO and Jax shows. (no lie)
Get fuckin Mike back in the band. He comes across as a nice guy, so whats the problem? If its money, lawsuits, contracts, whatever. One more album and tour with one of the best groups of all times deserves it. Chickenfoot are having a good time by the looks of things - but they aint shit compare to VH. Why not reconquer the planet? Ed, Alex, Dave, even Wolfie probably agrees - MAKE THE CALL!!!
October 9th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Dirty Duck - yeah, I hear bands all the time talking about how ashamed they are that they’ve had a number one album. You’d think that given the stigma of a number one album they would quit the music music business altogether if they somehow decided not to simply kill themselves.
Jesus, it’s amazing how people will try so hard not to gave Sam his due that it becomes absurd.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Kayser I was talkin about 70’s / Early 80’s rock music.
Bands werent focused on #1 albums. Whats your problem man?
Even ed said that when “jump” went #1 he was embarrased.
What “due” does sammy deserve so badly? He’s a millonare man! What more do you want people to do or say? Make it a fucking national holiday?
Kayser, at times I respect you but times like these when you turn me off man. Why are YOU so worried about what people think of sam? You one of those fruits? Where you need everyone to agree that sam is a great frontman and musician? Guess what? NOT EVERYONE HERE LIKES SAMMY HAGAR!
Get over it and be happy you have your fuckin chickenfoot.
There’s your due!
God…you would think that sam was paying his family to be on this site….
October 9th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
come on guys, just wait until VH releases their new album and it hits #1 then all of you who say a #1 album is no big deal will be saying how great it is that VH has a #1 album with DLR.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
i agree with you sammyvanroth, VH will hit #1 when their next album is release and i think it will be great. the point in making music is to have people listen, enjoy and buy your work. any artists would appreciate having a number #1 album on the charts. VH is and always will be great musicians and songwriters. bands who worry about the stigma of a #1 album don’t have the longevity and creativity that it takes to stay around for decades and have a successful career. alex said it best in an interview that a #1 album is a “validation of your work.”
October 9th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
I really do hope Ed Al Dave & Wolf put out a #1 album in 2010. I’d get it right when it comes out, like I did with CF back around April. But first they gotta produce it. With these guys and their history, that’s no slam dunk. tick tock tick tock
October 9th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
the time for talk has come and gone,demand more from this band like new music!!!!!
October 9th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Ducky/Dirty Duck: “Long live david lee roth. The last frontman to still “have it” in his 50’s next to jagger…”
You obviously haven’t seen AC/DC recently. Brian Johnson’s still got it in his 60’s.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:46 am
To Duck/Dirty Duck!
God Bless you and the mighty Van Halen!! That’s right the ‘MIGHTY’ VAN HALEN!! When Dave left VH the ‘MIGHTY’ in Van Halen was no longer there, but since he’s back the ‘MIGHTY’ has returned!!! Van Halen was dirty, nasty, so damn sexy with Diamond Dave and King Edward at the front lines!!! I’ve said this before on this site, Dave brings the best out of Eddie and Eddie brings the best out of Dave!!! That is untouchable!!! So glad that they finally know that they need each other and know that it’s what the fans really want!!!
P.S. It was a big surprised when I just heard that Van Halen wanted to get Dave back in durning the late 80’s, can someone please explain more about this rumour that’s just floored me?!!
October 10th, 2009 at 4:55 am
Hey Ron!
Yeah Brian Johnson still got it, but he does need a helping hand from the fans!!! Most of the time the fans are singing louder than he is!!! AC/DC & Van Halen…CLASSIC!!!!!!!!
By the way I still prefer Bon Scott (the original and the best!) My big brother saw him many times down under here in Melbourne, Australia. They guy had Marshall stacks in his lungs!!!! The loudest fuckin vocalist you’ll ever here, he’ll make Sammy bald by the end of the 1st verse!!! AC?DC with Bon Scott is the best, much like Van Halen with Roth is!!!! Just am glad that Dave is alive but sad that Bon didn’t live longer, you yanks never really got to hear AC/DC with Scott long enough.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Agreed Rich, phasers set to bore. Redirecting the nerdship to The Cheeseburger Picnic!
October 10th, 2009 at 7:46 am
this thread is just about done
October 10th, 2009 at 7:50 am
List of frontmen who have still got it:
* Glenn Hughes
* Ronnie James Dio
* Mick Jagger
* Robert Plant
* Paul Stanley
* Danny Bowes
* Bruce Dickinson
* David Coverdale
* Steven Tyler
* Ian Gillan
Most aren’t nearly as good as they were, but all still carry the ability to rouse a crowd through talent rather than sheer fame, impressive vocal power/range and can still get up every night and do it.
You can raise criticism against their natural talents, but I can’t think of any of them who have become dramatically worse due to age - I don’t get the “ovr 50″ point. Joe Elliot’s range isn’t so high as it was and David Coverdale can’t do his Robert Plantisms quite as often as he used to, but age isn’t hitting ANY of these guys that hard. Ozzy and Vince Neil are the only rock singers who age has ravaged and neither were siners to begin with. The rest you may have liked or disliked at some stage, but can’t say they’ve gotten much worse - even if they’ve lost the peak abilities of their youth.
Axl Rose’ll hit 50 soon and on the 2006/7 tours proved he’d not lost it at all. On the 2001/2 tours he showed how easy it is to fall our of practise, though.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Happy 54th birthday to the best frontman in the history of rocknroll!!Hopen DLR joins me and Blinky for some jack at the jet centre.
October 10th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Happy Birthday Diamond Dave!!!!
October 10th, 2009 at 11:01 am
DLR, have a great birthday!!! Enjoy the party!!!! This toke is for you dude!!!!!!
October 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Don Henley is one of the best rock frontman ever, and Sammy is a lot better guitar player than Eddie.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
WHOA, ClubfootKolby.
“Sammy is a lot better guitar player than Eddie”.
Holy cow you must be having your cereal topped with bullshit.
Hopefully that’s just your opinion, because dude, you may prefer Sammy as a guitar player but Eddie is just leagues, generations and years ahead of Sammy guitar-wise. There are “guitar battle” jokes of them two on YouTube at old VH concerts….Sammy gets his ass kicked!
Heres one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkmQ0ZtkldY
October 10th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Diry Duck, I think you’ve summed things up beautifully…now whenever the Dave/Sammy thing comes up people can refer back to your comments for understanding, thanks
October 10th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I LOL’ed at the above comment.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
American Satadium Bands:
1 Journey
2 Bon Jovi
3 Bruce Spring and the E
4 Van Halen
5 Motley Crue
October 10th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
long live vh! happy bday dlr
October 10th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
ClubfootKolby - remove your head from your ass. Your on the wrong site dude. This is the vhnd not gay men’s health crisis.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Hey Dirty Duck…you said it beautifully…my thoughts exactly…now if the topic of Dave/Sammy ever comes up again people can refer to your comments and everything will be clear.
October 11th, 2009 at 4:15 am
All i can say to the sammy fans,look at the ‘81 oakland video’s! You needed to be with VH from the start to understand why they were called THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN!!!!!!!!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 8:29 am
I would of loved to seen Bon Scott. I love watching old footage of him.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Earth to ClubfootKolby, what the fuck are you smoking putz????
October 11th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
englbert humperdink is the best rock frontman &
ralph macchio is a lot better than ed.
“top that” bullshit LOL
October 11th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Sammy was great when he was a frontman for Montrose…..after that, nothing……
October 11th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
It’s great having a little fun on the VHND, I know Eddie is the best guitar player ever, I also like all versions of Van Halen, cant wait for some new stuff. The Oakland show was great, but so were a lot of the Sammy shows. Have fun.
October 12th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Duck:
Respectfully agree with your comments. While I can’t recall Sammy being a major force in the 80’s, I do remember him at least in rotation on the radio. What a funny decade…where a nerd could be a rock star. But at least there was variety. I beleive the new VH will be #1 and go platinum from hype alone. IT WILL SELL. No doubt about it. Then we can debate the quality of the work. As much as I do miss MA, I am really starting to see Wolf’s influence in this whole thing and wonder if any of this would even be possible without him in the mix.
October 12th, 2009 at 9:39 am
By the way, everyone go see Zombieland. It rocks out with Everybody wants some in the movie! And it is just plain hilarious!
October 12th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
oh God, i love how Dave Mustaine said they need to grin and bear it…. when he needs to grin and bear it and make up with metallica and put the feud behind him
October 13th, 2009 at 6:42 am
dave is 55, in his book crayzy from the heat he write that he is born 1954
/pat
October 14th, 2009 at 5:20 am
BTW happy (1 day late) birthday sammy.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Hey Russ!
Right on dude!! I saw the trailer to Zombieland and I think Van Halen’s music brings it to cult status!!! Isn’t it fantastic how classic Van Halen is honoured in most movies being made today!!! If you want a bit of fire and punch in your movie, put on some classic Van Halen and all is well!!
By the way I’m really warming to the fact that the new Van Halen album will be a massive success/comeback for the mighty Van Halen!! I too miss MA backing vocals. But think about it for a minute, there are 3 Van Halen’s; same blood, similar musical brains, same vocal pipes, similar sound (much like The Beach Boys!). It will sound different, but if those that listened carefully to Wolfgang & Eddie’s backing vocals from the last tour, you could hear the new sound beginning to grow and develop….and I LOVE IT!!!!
I always thought Eddie’s backing vocal was just as important as how George Harrison was in The Beatles. Their backing vocal sound blended sonically beautifully with the others!! Eddie’s backing vocals are just as important as Mike’s was. Want proof?! Have a listening to Chickenfoot CD/live, it doesn’t have that sonic quality as it did in VH with Eddie’s backing vocal sound. It sounds empty, to high end. Sammy & Mike’s vocals a too similar, they kind of clash. One trying to outdo the other. I’ve noticed recently that Mike is singing backing vocals like a lead vocalist. That’s a NO! NO! that musicians know all about. Basically Chickenfoot haven’t got that 3rd vocal sonic harmony sound, in a nutshell EVH!! Just goes to show you how great and a genius King Eddie is, the cat can do anything!! As Jimmy Page famously said of EVH years ago; “I can’t play what he plays, yet if I can I won’t be able to smile, run and jump around like Eddie does!”
October 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
VH should give there fans what they want! New music and a live album from the early 80’s. A 2 sided cd/double cd along with the new release would go and sell 3 millon in 1 week. No doubt. Work a deal with Target or whoever. They should hire me as a consultant. My God the VH camp is so friggin fickle it is there real handicap. Core VH fans are not getting any younger!
October 15th, 2009 at 6:20 am
this must be a Dave board only. No mention of Sammy’s birthday on 10/13.
October 16th, 2009 at 8:51 am
We’ll probably see a Van Halen lunch box/thermos combo pack (”So This is Lunch…”)or some other new inane merchandise before new music.
I soooo hope I’m wrong. I’ll get any new music the first day it’s out. Not holding my breath at this point.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:54 am
ummm, i think the VHND people are on vacation…..
October 16th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
This posting is as boring as Van Halen “Right Now”
I don’t care about old Dave, what is he doing now????
You never hear about him even during the 2007 tour????
How about something new, if not music at least news, or is Sammy and the FOOT all the new Van Halen stuff were ever going to see.
October 17th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Van Hagay your post is boring.
“Right Now” Dave`s recording with the =VH= Family.
deal with it.
Sammy&the toe ARE the closest YOU personally will get to your favorite version of =VH=.
I call them the “TOE” not the “FOOT” because that`s giving them too much credit.=VAN HALEN= is a “Foot”!Sam&mike are a
couple of “toes” pretending to be a foot
October 17th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
“Right Now” Dave`s recording with the =VH= Family.
Really…philster? They’re keepin’ ya’ posted, huh?
October 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Dave, Dave WHO????
I hear all about CHICKENFOOT and Sammy Hagar but never any thing about David Lee Roth, and Eddie so what he was on 2 1/2 MEN, his voice and guitar playing sounded just likewhat he flushed down the toilet after he came out of the bathroom!
“Right Now” Sammy, Mike, Joe and Chad are worn out from a very long 2009 producing new music and a very successful tour!
Dave WHO ???????????????
October 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I’m sorry, but David Lee Roth was ready to bomb with Van Halen, luck for Eddie he quit Van Halen and bombed on his own and Sammy Hagar came in and did some serious rock and roll and took Van Halen to four (4) #1 albums and a load of Top 40 hits, making them, to me, the more popular and better Van Halen. I miss the Van Hagar days, and I miss Van Halen.