Van Halen Update 7/6/11

Not much new here, but here’s a quick update on the new Van Halen album. Some new rumors have surfaced since our last update, but we are hearing that most of them are not true. Here’s what we know as of now:

Album Release Date: We are hearing it is tentatively September or October, 2011.

First Single Release Date: Unknown.

Album Title / Song Titles: Unknown. (We hear that the rumored titles, “Hurricanes”, “Stop Talking” etc. are NOT real song titles).

Album Cover: Unknown. (There’s a rumor that the artwork will feature a brown M&M, emblazoned with the VH logo. We are hearing that this is NOT the artwork that will be used for the CD).

Producer: The vocals were produced by John Shanks. The music was produced by John Shanks and possibly also Eddie Van Halen.

Engineer: Ross Hogarth, who is back on board after being off the project for some time. He recently described the unreleased record as “the killing side of Van Halen at the top of their game again with Diamond Dave.”.

Tour: Their will definitely not be any tourdates before the 5 announced Australian dates from Sept 24th through Oct. 3rd. There are no other rumored dates at this point.

We’re excited to hear Mark Tremonti claim that new music sounds like “old school Van Halen”, and of course the recent “Get Ready” message from Diamond Dave is further heightening our unbridled anticipation! Stay tuned to VHND.com.

  • patt5150

    Well like everyone else on here, I’m hoping “Get Ready” means something sooner, rather than later. I can’t see Dave posting that on his site if there wasn’t going to be new music or some kind of big announcement very, very soon. I wonder if they’ll do any videos for the new record, or better yet, release some kind of box set of old archived footage. The US Festival in mint quality would be really, really cool! C’mon guys give Showtime a call, they’ve got it in a vault somewhere (lol).

  • Michael C.

    Yeah, Atomic Punk seems like a cool cat. But if there was an empty seat next to him on a crowded bus, I think I might just stand. LOL. Keep rockin, AP. We love ya.

  • Roth_Leaps_83

    Dave and Alex looked pissed in that photo —- pissed that the current music scene SUCKS A LOT OF ASS…..and they look rather determined to change that…..just like they did in 1978.

    That’s why these guys are GODS —- they dont tolerate mediocrity.

  • Steve K

    Another wasted update on no update.

  • TearItUp

    Sounds like AP needs his Ritalin!!! lol

  • Adrian

    @ ATOMIC PUNK

    Man that speech was fucking epic. I truly envy you, seriously. I’m only 16 years old pushing 17 at this point, but you better believe the first record I put on in my car going out alone for the first time was Van Halen I! If you ask anyone who knows me they will tell you I bleed Van Halen, the only missing ingredient is I’ve only seen them live once in my life. 15 times sounds like a dream come true hahah! I saw them on the 07/08 Tour and it was fantastic but I would kill for a time machine and a ticket to a show at the Omni in ATL in 1981!

    I’ll tell you this though man for all you 50 year olds, when the mighty =VH= rolls into town on their next tour stop *PLEASE* don’t forget this excitement and anticipation and just stand in your seat and drink overpriced beer. There is nothing worse than a overweight and unexcited crowd. From what I can tell from the grainy videos I watch, 50% of classic van halen magic is that eager and feisty crowd, so give em your all old dudes!! Remember the skinny teen that used to rage and sing every word!

  • THE ATOMIC PUNK

    See fellas…Van Halen isn’t meant to be sipped with a pinky thusly extended. Its meant to be slammed in a shot glass.

    Oh well? Some get it some don’t.

  • shawn

    technically, the wait for the new album has now spanned THREE DECADES.

    if they had released their debut album in 1998, they’d be considered a veteran rock band by now.

    JEEZE.

  • temple5150

    “Old School Van Halen,” “on the Killing Side,” and “on Top of their game…” I feel like I’m on f*cking “Password” and we HAVE to find the right phrase to make these guys release something…what gives. I’m old, tired and, yes Dave, READY…LET’S DO THIS!!

  • Russ

    This is shaping up to be a great summer/year for music with the crown jewel being the new VH!!! Dang some of my favorite bands from high school AND my most favorite are releasing or have released music this year: Cars, Rush, and now VH. It’s the early 80′s again!!!

  • GennyVH

    Oh, well, “Get ready”….and… I’m still ready!!! :-)

    ….and “I’ll wait” more news… \m/\m/

    F**k all the rumors…

  • evhua

    this pic might appear inside the CD booklet … :-)

  • THE ATOMIC PUNK

    getchabite says:
    July 7th, 2011 at 5:56 am

    I like Atomic Punk. He sounds like a pretty tough guy.
    “When I hear the early VH I want to go old school bar fights!!!!”
    LOL!!!!
    Stupid knuckle dragger.

    Really man???? You ever see Van Halen in the late 70?s??? If so when?? You ever leave a Van Halen first album concert tour show so damn pumped that Superman gets left in your wake??

    You ever sit front row on that same tour where Dave wore your scarf and Mike bent down from the stage and gave you a drink? You ever hang out at the Hyatt in Oakland during the Fair warning tour and have a drink with Mike and Al??? You ever Go to the Berkeley Marriott in and sit with Dave in the court yard for a few choice minutes???

    Did you make the San Jose Civic show the night after the Fresno tour opener and have Ed’s then girl friend Valerie
    ( Not Val 2) but a skinny blonde take you up to his room to sign your VH II world tour hat??

    You have a girl friend or is that the next thing you need to do besides move out of your parents basement??

    Its a shame folks like you never played in a band. I toured for a few years back when. I was a singer in the mold of Dave……Played the LA scene..Roxie, Whiskey and a few other spots up in Northern Calif.

    This was a long time ago. But VH was the single biggest influence on my band. The early stuff. But then again I digress.

    Knuckle dragger?? How profound!!! You get a gold star on the fridge for that poetic statement. Your just so damn interesting!!!!

    But do tell!! Enlighten us here of your van Halen experience!!! I just cant wait!!!!

  • Robert

    Am I the only who thinks that the idea of an updated version of the 1984 album cover is a bad idea? Personally, I didn’t think that album art was all that great when it came out in 1984. It’s kind of trite, in my opinion. An cute angel kid smoking a cigarette? It’s kind of cliche, like a pregnant nun costume on halloween. Van Halen needs to come up with something that has an old school feeling but, at the same time, looks fresh.

    By the way, I bet there are a lot of old timer VH fans on this site. I saw VH in 79, on Roth’s birthday in Oakland in 1980, all three Oakland 1981 shows, saw them both nights in SF in 82, and there again in 84. I grew up on VH. I was 15 when their first album came out. VH/Roth was the soundtrack of my life from the ages of 15 through 21. Man, talk about perfect timing!!!

  • THE ATOMIC PUNK

    DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You saw Halen at the Oakland auditorium!!! I was there for the two nights!! Me and my buds are in the vid for ” So this is love ” Oakland 81. Where you from man????

  • MasVH

    AP,

    Dude, calm down or you’re headed for a brain aneurysm!! We all get that your excited & so am I to hear new VH. But the days of 1978 are long gone & 3/4 of this band is in their mid to late 50s now for God sakes.

    Let’s just pray we get a dose of that magic again that lit up the music scene in the late 70s.

    Cheers!

  • MasVH

    @Robert
    “Van Halen needs to come up with something that has an old school feeling but, at the same time, looks fresh.”

    I agree man, I don’t wanna see any retread album covers either & the idea of the angel kid grown up is pretty damn corny.

  • BrownSound101

    They should call the new album “Hibernation”…it’s been a LONG time!!

  • Towers McQuestion

    Robert says:
    July 7th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Am I the only who thinks that the idea of an updated version of the 1984 album cover is a bad idea?

    **************

    No, I’m with you on that. I don’t think it’s a good idea. Might make for an interesting poster or something, but no, not as a cover for a new release. It ages the band in a way that I don’t think is complimentary, and besides, they need to keep looking ahead, not ride on their momentous past. I kind of like the idea of using one of Dave’s paintings a la Fair Warning’s cover. I like that. No need to play up any kind of “dinosaur” heritage. Even at their current age, they’re still better than ANYTHING else out there right now.

    The future, not the pasture, right?

    Man, a lot of talk on this thread seemingly about what makes a “true” fan of Van Halen, how many times you’ve seen the band, how many times you’ve met the band, etc. Am I to understand that because I grew up in Canada, didn’t hear of VH until Women And Children First, was only about 8 years old at the time of VH 1, have only seen them 4 times live and only met Mike (albeit after a Chickenfoot show, not a Van Halen show), I’m somehow less of a fan (Oh, and I like Van Hagar/Chickenfoot, too.)? I would disagree vehemently and dare anyone to prove that I’m less of a VH fan than anyone else.

  • BrownSound101

    Possible album titles:

    2011
    Fury
    Full Tank
    Die Bieber!

  • THE ATOMIC PUNK

    MasVH says:
    July 7th, 2011 at 9:24 am

    AP,

    Dude, calm down or you’re headed for a brain aneurysm!! We all get that your excited & so am I to hear new VH. But the days of 1978 are long gone & 3/4 of this band is in their mid to late 50s now for God sakes.

    Let’s just pray we get a dose of that magic again that lit up the music scene in the late 70s.

    Cheers!

    Hey Boss we all saw Halen back in 2007-08

    We all know the boys are old now. Dave looks like a little old man shuffling along the stage now. Wolf aint Mike etc…

    Point is there’s nothing wrong with going ape shit over a band like Halen. I like to get hyped as hell over the boys.

    To much of my life now is running my company. Paying a mortgage and making sure there’s more black than red in the books at the end of every month. To be blunt some how some way I got old. Halen brings me back to when I was a kid. playing clubs and getting laid like a champ!! Responsibility was left for others!!

    Halen is the last link to a time where faster, harder, bigger was all that mattered.

    So excuse me if I’m a bit over the top. But the last 30+ years flew by. Gotta grab the good old school times when we can.

  • Jim

    I vote for “Tentatively Unknown”.

  • THE ATOMIC PUNK

    Towers McQuestion says:

    Man, a lot of talk on this thread seemingly about what makes a “true” fan of Van Halen, how many times you’ve seen the band, how many times you’ve met the band, etc. Am I to understand that because I grew up in Canada, didn’t hear of VH until Women And Children First, was only about 8 years old at the time of VH 1, have only seen them 4 times live and only met Mike (albeit after a Chickenfoot show, not a Van Halen show), I’m somehow less of a fan (Oh, and I like Van Hagar/Chickenfoot, too.)? I would disagree vehemently and dare anyone to prove that I’m less of a VH fan than anyone else.

    Hey man your never to young or to old to get bit by the Halen bug. My point is if you saw them way back when, you saw history being made..Lighting in a bottle, legends being born right before your eyes.

    Now does this make us old timers bigger or better fans than the guys that missed out as they we’re to young?? Of course not…

    It just mean we saw it first hand. All those grainy vids on you Tube? We we’re in the crowd. I guess you had to be there?

    But hell enjoy yourself!! Lets all hope the new album and tour comes out white hot!!

    We can all say we saw it at the same time and it was absolutely bad ass!!

  • BrownSound101

    @Jim

    Haha that will work too!!

  • Towers McQuestion

    THE ATOMIC PUNK says:
    July 7th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Hey man your never to young or to old to get bit by the Halen bug. My point is if you saw them way back when, you saw history being made..Lighting in a bottle, legends being born right before your eyes.

    Now does this make us old timers bigger or better fans than the guys that missed out as they we’re to young?? Of course not…

    It just mean we saw it first hand. All those grainy vids on you Tube? We we’re in the crowd. I guess you had to be there?

    But hell enjoy yourself!! Lets all hope the new album and tour comes out white hot!!

    We can all say we saw it at the same time and it was absolutely bad ass!!

    ******************

    I’d certainly liked to have been there, but my parents frowned on me traveling to The Whiskey in L.A. when I was 7 or 8. ;)

    All I remember is that I was looking for some kind of musical superheroes and when I first heard WACF I thought “Jesus, Christ, that’s EXACTLY what I always wanted to listen to!”

    I’m a fan of the VH power trio first, so I miss Mike and enjoyed a lot of the Van Hagar years (seeing them live twice), but I admit to getting irked when people try to compare fan worship as it sounded like this thread was turning into. VH shaped my entire life. I picked up the guitar because of Ed. Wrote my own songs and performed them live because of Ed. I only wish I’d had the means (and age and geographic place of birth) to see the club days or any tour pre Fair Warning. I’ve also regretted never being able to meet Ed and Al, shake their hands and tell them what a profound effect they had on my life.

    All I want right now is a new VH single to guide me through the summer. VH is the official band of summer!

  • temple5150

    I think all this “waiting” may be costing VH a potential fan base. “Kids” today are so acclimated to instant gratification that this game they’re playing now is going to do nothing but dissuade a potential “new” fan base. They should’ve released something over the 4th of July weekend like the rumors had it. The fact that they didn’t is ominous if you ask me. Any fan short of “die hard” has moved on and will probably pick up the album only after the marketing has thrown an ad on their Facebook page. I think that any landslide first week sales will be harmed by their lack of catering to the “new” crowd. I hate to say this stuff, but it’s true. If they want to come out as big in 2011 as they did in ’78 they need to step up their process.

  • Towers McQuestion

    temple5150 says:
    July 7th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    I think all this “waiting” may be costing VH a potential fan base. “Kids” today are so acclimated to instant gratification that this game they’re playing now is going to do nothing but dissuade a potential “new” fan base.

    ******************

    While I agree, I’m not sure that they are planning on catering to any kind of new fan base. Van Halen is a brand name, as Dave once said. It’s like Spic and Span or Kleenex or Budweiser. So many will buy it just for the sake of the name alone. The die hards, like us, will buy it anyway.

    But as for the newer, younger crowd, most won’t know who Van Halen are, IMHO. Most have never heard anything like this band in their lifetimes. They’re used to overproduced, auto-tuned, lifeless pop crap written by some guy in a suit somewhere and “performed” (if you can call it that) by a model wannabe or prepubescent kid. There is no such thing as four guys in a room locking into a groove anymore.

    I work with kids from elementary level to high school and I assure you, most don’t know what this kind of music is. TO them, Eminem is the ultimate in rock performance, and is there a real instrument on any of his tracks?

    Winning over today’s youth… I don’t know, it’s possible, but it’s going to take some work. However, constant updates on FB or twitter about the upcoming album won’t help IMHO. They won’t be following them anyway. We will.

    The only thing that will shatter the wall of shit that’s on the radio now is Ed’s guitar, Al’s Drums, DLR’s wails and, yes, Wolfgang laying down a solid vibe (though I wish it was Mike). Let’s hope they bring in some outside help like Steve Lukather and Co. to help replicate those Beach Boy like background harmonies that are a VH staple.

  • THE ATOMIC PUNK

    Yup.

  • temple5150

    But as for the newer, younger crowd, most won’t know who Van Halen are, IMHO. Most have never heard anything like this band in their lifetimes. They’re used to overproduced, auto-tuned, lifeless pop crap written by some guy in a suit somewhere and “performed” (if you can call it that) by a model wannabe or prepubescent kid. There is no such thing as four guys in a room locking into a groove anymore.

    ******************

    Motley Crue picked up a TON of new fans just prior to the “Saints of Los Angeles” release (perfectly valid as they fired, then re-hired their lead singer, too). Nikki Sixx himself said that he was blown away at the multi-generational crowd that showed up for that tour. So, I think YES, a “new” fan base is possible — IF the campaign is run the right way — and folks, THIS, this ISN’T the right way. They’ll never be as big as they were if they keep this up. I hope I eat crow on that statement, but…

  • freddiegirl

    Diamond Dave and the Reverend Big Al look bad-ass here. I think they look fabby considering their ages and what they’ve put themselves through back in the day. Love ‘em both. It’s cool to see them together considering they were besties back the club days.

    Atomic Punk…you and I are the same age, I too, was 8 when WACF came out.. ;)

  • Nat

    “Stay tuned to VHND.com” for more posts saying we really don’t know what’s going on :D

  • http://www.habbo.com Nikki

    After listening to Van Halen non stop for a week and a half I have to say this is going to be different. So all you guys out there who want more Me Wise Magic the chance of that are slim.

  • Towers McQuestion

    temple5150 says:

    Motley Crue picked up a TON of new fans just prior to the “Saints of Los Angeles” release (perfectly valid as they fired, then re-hired their lead singer, too). Nikki Sixx himself said that he was blown away at the multi-generational crowd that showed up for that tour. So, I think YES, a “new” fan base is possible — IF the campaign is run the right way — and folks, THIS, this ISN’T the right way. They’ll never be as big as they were if they keep this up. I hope I eat crow on that statement, but…

    ******************

    I hope you’re 100 percent correct, my friend.

  • Pete

    Looking into it waaay too much, but why no Eddie or Wolf in the picture? Hopefully (if it’s recent) they’re all getting along behind the scenes.
    I heard on Chicago’s Loop 97.9, that they took a bunch of old songs and somewhat revamped them.
    So, hopefully we’ll hear some “Put Out the Lights”, maybe a version of “Voodoo Queen” even though “Mean Street” was created. A lot of stuff on some of the bootlegs is cool….just add an “updated” guitar/bass/drum sound..not to mention better/updated production etc. The songs would sound sharp!
    Glad the time is near; sad Mike is out, but Chickenfoot and VH in the same year…FINALLY a good year that music needs!

  • http://www.habbo.com Nikki

    @Temple5150

    I disagree i’m 17 and at the high school i go to Van Halen is very active of course there are preppy kids out there who want Justin Bieber and Lady GAGA but I can assure you rock music is very active. And if there is anyone to blame for the Pop and rap crap it’s your generation. If you wouldn’t have taken music out of school these kids wouldn’t want the pop and cRap music. The kids are bombarded into listening to Justin Bieber. In my opinion I believe music is still very alive and active it’s just the kids need to hear it. The conclusion to the music problem is the parents around the world need to show there kids the old good music. Trust me once we do this will crush the pop and crap music.

  • getchabite

    THE ATOMIC PUNK says:
    You ever sit front row on that same tour where Dave wore your scarf and Mike bent down from the stage and gave you a drink? You ever hang out at the Hyatt in Oakland during the Fair warning tour and have a drink with Mike and Al??? You ever Go to the Berkeley Marriott in and sit with Dave in the court yard for a few choice minutes???

    Did you make the San Jose Civic show the night after the Fresno tour opener and have Ed’s then girl friend Valerie
    ( Not Val 2) but a skinny blonde take you up to his room to sign your VH II world tour hat??
    ***************************************
    My bad. I meant “groupie chick knuckle dragger.”

  • dmoney

    Two of the coolest kat’s on the planet!

  • Overproduced Warning

    I don’t know if someone already posted this, but I was thinking of “Out of the Maze”, a painting by William Kurelek (yes, the same one from “Fair Warning”) for the album cover. That would be awesome.

  • Ed Dee

    Yes, this story really didn’t tell us much but things seem to be moving along. Something will be happening soon !!!!!

  • http://! THE ATOMIC PUNK

    Sorry boys..Just busting getchabites balls….

    And getchabite…You ever get to Calif…SF bay area..You look me up. I’ll buy you a beer. Here’s to a great new VH Album and tour!!

  • Diver Down

    Wooo Hooo!!! Still happy to know that new Van Halen may be coming soon!
    All will be well with new VH!!

  • JasonBourne

    I surely do not want to hear 30 yr old unrecorded discarded songs reworked for the new album. If you cant create new music, call it a day and say good night .

  • patt5150

    Okay I’ve heard a lot of praises of “Me Wise Magic” on here the last few days and I gotta say … really? Don’t get me wrong I love Van Halen and I love “Me Wise Magic” … BUT, that song seemed very rushed and Dave’s vocals seemed very forced and strained on that track. Mike’s harmony’s and Ed’s incredible guitar work saved that song in my book. I hope, hope, hope Dave’s chops are much better on the new record! I’m not a professional critic, but rather the only critic that really counts … I’m a fan!!

  • Dan

    My thoughts on this post – unknown, possibly disinterested … :-)

  • Marcin

    VH ought to release “Death by Hollywood”. One condition – with Eddie on lead vocals! EVH fans know what I’am talking about.

  • http://www.vhnd.com Simon from Switzerland

    hmmm…not really breaking news, but thanks for the post and the picture ;-) !

  • pat

    maybe they should just call the album “unknown” and not let anybody listen to it.im sick of the way van halen does things and doesnt tell anybody anything and im starting to just not care if they release anything.

  • Bass Man

    Can’t wait for this album. I hope they make it together long enough to tour again.
    As usual with VH, the anticipation build-up is the killer. Not sure how this album will sell in today’s day and age. But those recent photos of Eddie and the simple post on Roth’s site make the odds in the favor of us VH fans that new music is coming.
    Once again, I feel for Mike not having a part in this but glad he has Chickenfoot.

  • getchabite

    ATOMIC PUNK:

    Cheers back to you.
    Just bustin your balls too.
    I like your spirit and the way you fly the VH flag.
    You would be the guy I want to stand next to in
    the front row for the new tour.

  • dan slaughter

    All the people who hate the pop sound of “Van Hagar” and say they never played “pop” with Roth….what do you all think of DANCING IN THE STREETS, I’LL WAIT, DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY, JAMIES’ CRYIN, SECRETS, IN A SIMPLE RHYME, BIG BAD BILL and PRETTY WOMAN?? Both eras had the “pop” side and while Van Halen released more so called pop tunes as singles while Hagar was singing, they had plenty of ‘em with Dave. His CRAZY FROM THE HEAT Ep was nothing but “pop” tunes and not many people mention that. I fuckin’ love the heavy side of the mighty VH..everything from ON FIRE, LIGHT UP THE SKY, ROMEO DELIGHT, (all of FAIR WARNING), GET UP, SUCKER IN A 3 PIECE, JUDGEMENT DAY, DON’T TELL ME and HUMANS BEING to even a couple tunes from the Cherone record. I just don’t understand all the hate for Sammy and all the records he did with the band. I went to most of my Halen shows during that era and always thought of them as the best in the business…still unique and better than all the rest. No doubt the vibe and image were different with Roth and the music had a different energy, but Hagar Halen still had merit on it’s own terms. Would everyone have thought different if they had named the band something else after Dave left?? Would all the hate still be as strong for Sammy? I love both eras and am totally stoked for the new record and cannot deny that Roth belongs(and is at his best) when he is the singer for VH, but I still think they wrote ass kicking tunes without Dave. Am a fan until the last string is strung!!