Chickenfoot update: 2nd album news, live DVD news & more
Here’s a five-part Chickenfoot update as of February 7th:
1) READER’s POLL WINNERS:
Chickenfoot won “Best New Talent” in the 16th annual Guitar World Reader’s Poll Results, published in the March 2010 issue.
2) NEW ALBUM UPDATE:
Classic Rock magazine got an update from chickenfoot’s manager, who dispelled a silly rumor and told them Chickenfoot will start recording their second album in April:
Rumour Of The Week: Hagar To Join Aerosmith
gbarton / News / 05/02/2010 12:50pmIs Sammy Hagar going to replace Steven Tyler as Aerosmith’s frontman?
Earlier this week Classic Rock heard the news that the Chickenfoot (and former Montrose/Van Halen) singer had agreed to sing with the Boston band on a forthcoming world tour.
A source told us:
“The idea is for Sammy and Aerosmith to rake in big bucks on the road while leaving Steven Tyler to sort out his problems. Then Tyler would return to the band in a couple of years’ time.”
Hagar, we reckon, is one of the few singers who could handle Tyler’s scat singing style and idiosyncratic lyrics. So the story made a strange kind of sense.
We contacted Hagar’s manager, John Carter, and told him we had it on good authority that Sammy was joining Aerosmith.
Carter reponded: “Good authority must mean The Enquirer because his Led Zep gig conflicts with the Aerosmith job.
“Seriously, Sam is very happy to be going into the studio with Chickenfoot to start the second album in April.”
The Aerosmith camp declined to comment.
3) LIVE DVD UPDATE:
Joe Satriani was interviewed at the VOX booth during the NAMM 2010 show and said that Chickenfoot’s upcoming DVD will be released in sometime in April and will contain at least one hour of really cool bonus features in addition to the live concert filmed in Tempe, Arizona last year.
4) MICHAEL ANTHONY VIDEO INTERVIEW with LICK LIBRARY at NAMM (click here)
5) MASHUP VIDEO:
‘Foot fan Curtis Lanclos created a mashup video using Chickenfoot’s song “Get It Up” and Larry Platt’s American Idol audition performance of “Pants on the Ground:
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February 7th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Sammy has got a great thing going with CF, and I doubt he would step into the Aerosmith mess, but he would one of the few guys to be able to deal with it after dealing with the VH bullshit for 10 years. Great news on the second CD and live DVD from CF. Cant wait for both to hit the stores.
February 7th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Pants on the ground?!?!?!?! Sammy joining Aerosmith?!?!?!?! At least Satch is real.
February 7th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Will Wolfgang replace Sammy in Chickenfoot? Then Mike can come back to Van Halen…
February 7th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
HaHa… Just Kidding…
February 7th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
That would be cool to see sammy with aerosmith but as long as hes still doin shit with CF that would fuckin sick!
February 7th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
I hope the Foot doesn’t use the video editor that did ‘I Just Wanna Rock’ DVD that Satch just released. It was like a person with a new video effects toy, and he/she used them all. Very hard to watch. There were a few songs I had never heard live so it wasn’t a total loss. The best part of the whole thing was a 40 minute interview with Joe. He talked about his family and his musical inspirations, teachers and training. He said one of his best teachers ever was a blind piano player … go figure
And I thought I got a steal by paying only $7.99 … lol.
February 7th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
By the way, why would Sammy want to go with Aerosmith and its burned out guitarist, when he can stay with rocks greatest player. Rock on Foot, congratulations!
February 7th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Please sammy hagar, do not ruin another band!!!!
February 7th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Bobby is bitter
February 7th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
How exactly are Chickenfoot (or Them Crooked Vultures, for that matter) “new talent”?
It seems to me that they should be getting the best “we already knew they were talented” award.
Maybe Sammy should just start calling himself The Cleaner and he can step in for any major lead singers who are sick/in rehab/hated by the rest of the band/dead/etc.
February 7th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
After Jerry Garcia died, there was a rumor that Sammy Hagar was going to tour with the Dead. At one point I remember hearing that he was joining Journey. And now, he’s going to save Aerosmith! You know why these rumors get started? It’s because Sammy Hagar could have easily done all of those things!! Sam’s voice is incredible, he puts on a tremendous live show and he’s passionate about music.
Whatever he touches turns into gold… and sometimes platinum
February 7th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
omg stay away from aerosmith
unless you want to be known as the guy who replaced the two lead singers of the most successful american rock bands ever…
or maybe he just wants have fun with the guys..
id prefer him back in van halen or just do chickenfoot
i yia yia ai..
whats next eddie van halen in chickenfoot
i still want to see cockhead with vai reform
i mean soundgarden is even getting back together for a money grad since ratm already cashed in …
February 7th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
CF is starting album #2 in April?? That’s awesome. I guess we can all thank John Frusciante for quitting the Red Hot Chili Peppers because I assumed it would be quite some time before CF got their schedules together to get back into the studio.
And a DVD in April to boot. If it’s the same concert as the theatrical release they did a while back, then it’s a great show.
Now maybe VH can set a goal. Get out a new album before CF’s second.
February 8th, 2010 at 12:57 am
Aerosmith already tried once to succeed without their original lineup in the late ’70′s-early ’80′s when Jimmy Crespo replaced Joe Perry. The results were mediocre on both sides. You’d think they would’ve learned by now…
February 8th, 2010 at 12:58 am
VAN HALEN. HALFTIME. SUPERBOWL XLV. OR BUST!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:00 am
When I suggested Sammy as Tyler’s replacement last week, I was just making a dumb joke and had no idea about Sammy possibly being considered (?)… I hope the rumour didn’t originate here!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:46 am
Chickenfoot!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:51 am
Love Sammy! Love all his groups/projects: Montrose, Solo, HSAS and The mighty Van Halen ( What the hell happened to Planut US by the way????) Anywho Areosmith??? He could handle it. But im feinding for some Van Halen as well. As expected and always the case with VH tho….no news has to be good news!!!! And Im sure Diamond Dave still believe’s corn dogs have class!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 7:29 am
JD we can only dream..
Incidentally, anybody else think the Who was pretty damn good? Daltry can’t quite hit the high notes anymore, but I thought the energy and the set list was perfect. The light show and stage set up was ridiculously awesome. And Ringo’s kid as got some serious chops. Nobody’s Moon, but man that kid can play.
February 8th, 2010 at 9:10 am
• Chicken Foot is releasing a new album in 2010!!!??? Damn, it hasn’t even been 13 years yet.
AND a DVD to boot!
• LMFAO at the thought of Sammy singing lead for Aerosmith. Yeah, later he’s going to headline a “Grateful Dead” and “Nirvana” tour… Right after monkeys fly out of my ass.
• BUT, As much as I loved the first Chickenfoot CD –- IMO, there are a few tracks that are kind of bland, insipid. I gotta give ‘em props for being prolific but I hope that Sam doesn’t rush the lyrics and we hear some more originality. No dis –- I’m just sayin. While it’s great to hear a band with a bluesy, hard-edged classic rock sound… That doesn’t mean that the songs should sound like something I’ve heard before. Like *SOME* of them do. Some stand out, some taste like chicken. Not a dis. Just think of it as constructive criticism.
• I do love the foot and will be at their concert and in line for the new album.
•…what the hell else would I listen to in 2010?
•…Ed?
February 8th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Matteau,
I agree with you, I thought the Who came across really well … very classy. I thought it was cool when the entire stadium sang the famous parts of their songs. They are truly one of the great rock bands of all time.
BTW JD, I was thinking the same thing as I watched the halftime show … how great would it be to have Van Halen doing one of these things. Their music is perfect for the party atmoshpere of a Super Bowl. It also has the classic. worldwide recognition that they seem to look for.
February 8th, 2010 at 9:45 am
“But when is Van Halen going to release something new? Maybe they’ll try to catch up with Chickenfoot.”
NO. Ed doesn’t give a rats ass what Chickenfoot does. He doesn’t care what ANYONE DOES.
February 8th, 2010 at 9:58 am
@Kayser Soza
John left over a year ago, a talented guitarist named Josh Klinghoffer is currently working and recording with the Red Hot Chili Peppers on a new album. They’ve all kept it under the rug for a while, I guess they didn’t want to fuel speculation. I guess RHCP will be done with their album in April or Chad is just heading down to jam up some funky tunes with the Foot…
I love RHCP, don’t like the fact that CF seems as big as they are…but RHCP are probably on the way out soon anyway…
February 8th, 2010 at 10:01 am
i’m sorry but i cant see sam joining areosmith!
February 8th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Yeah, Matteau23, the Who were stellar.
Along with the Stones a few years back, I’d say the best ever half-time show. They packed a lot
into their 12 minute set. Whoever does the show next year
has a high bar to clear. VH could do it. They got what it takes for sure, but I won’t bet the farm on it.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:07 am
If Sam joins Aerosmith I’ll be Sarah Palin’s running mate in 2012.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:23 am
It’s a switch. Steven Tyler will be the new singer for chickenwings.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I think Sammy is too old for Aerosmith. But it would be good to get him in a setting where just his voice was used.
But really, Aerosmith should just hang it up if they can’t get Tyler to sing – just like Van Halen should have disbanded without Roth.
I’m not saying stop playing – but change the name and make something new.
I thought the Who were great at the Superbowl, but who dressed them????
February 8th, 2010 at 11:02 am
No sammy! don’t join Aerosmith. stick with Chickenfoot.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:28 am
No matter what your take/opinion of Sammy may be, there is just no denying that he is a hard worker who continues to produce new music for his fans. I respect that. Good for him! A second CF album, live DVD … the bar has been set for VH. No doubt they can top it if they so choose …
February 8th, 2010 at 11:34 am
F**K me, CF just piss all over VH in terms of PR, news, releases etc.
I’m still waiting for the big VH press release, that will simultaneously announce a new 2010/11 world wide tour, starting in New Zealand, ending in Australia, with two concert DVDs (Oakland 82, somewhere from 07) and a three disc album, five discs if you want the super edition with CD’s of the dvd concerts.
Then, of course, my old high school french teacher comes into the room and lies down on the bed with me, and before I know what shes doing with her hands…
Oh shit, I’m dreaming again.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:38 am
One more note on VH doing a Superbowl halftime show. The censors problably wouldn’t allow them to sing ‘Runnin’ With the Devil’, but they could change the lyrics to ‘Runnin’ With the Football’
February 8th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Thanks, Rich, for that. I didn’t realize it was old news as I’d just recently seen stories about it. The stories made it look like he quit as the RHCPs were heading back into the studio. Good news if they are keeping it going, get out a new album AND Chad gets back in the studio with CF. Chad may replace Sam as the Energizer Bunny of Rock.
February 8th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
oh, yeah, have to agree with all y’all. It was great to see The Who doing their thing. Kudos to Daltry for hitting the big scream toward the end of “Won’t Get Fooled Again.” Not quite what it used to be but still damn respectable. The group I was watching with were all wondering out loud if he was going to go for it. I knew because you could see him getting psyched up for it throughout the entire instrumental lead in. I figured with the effort, he probably shredded his vocal cords all to hell but he managed to finish the song just fine.
February 8th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
There’s a lot of whining on this site about how Mike was shafted by VH or that he should be back in the band but with talk of a second album already he must be thanking them for firing him and he probably feels well shot of the brothers. Can’t wait for the second disc.
February 8th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Scottso – I was going to mention the same thing about the rumor with Sammy replacing Jerry Garcia back when Garcia died. This Aerosmith rumor is I’m sure just that, another rumor.
I could see Sammy maybe doing one or two shows with Aerosmith just for fun but he’s only one man, he’s got to much on his plate already to be able to tour with them. I really wouldn’t be that psyched about him playing with Aerosmith anyway. If he’s gonna start a new project I think he should restart the “Planet Us” project. Or experiment with new sounds on a solo project.
More than anything I’m happy that Chickenfoot was formed and is about to start working on a new album. I love that band. As long as they’re around I’ll be happy.
I think it would be really cool for VH to do the SuperBowl halftime show next year. But every time I wish something for VH it turns into a pipedream.
I don’t know if everyone in VH ,including management, could get their shit together long enough to pull something off like that. It seems like everytime a miracle happens where everything in the universe lines up for Van Halen to function properly it breaks down again before you can blink your eyes. You never know though. I still have hope for Van Halen, although I have to admit I’m running really low.
February 8th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
I would hate to see Sammy join Aerosmith for a tour. I really wouldn’t mind seeing him as a one-off event though. Just to have fun ya know?
To all those that think that Eddie actually cares to keep up with Chickenfoot: You’re dreaming! There is no way he gives a flying rats ass how many CD’s or DVD’s Chickenfoot puts out.
Putting a record together after all of these years, with a singer that they never could get along with, who’s voice sounds damaged as he goes to hit the high notes (See DLR Band CD for voice references) is NOT going to be anything easy. It will be a pure miracle if we get something that is really good. I mean it hurts me to say these things but does anyone really doubt this to be the truth? We can hope that I am proven wrong right?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Steve:
I hope you’re wrong. Dave’s vocal’s will never match Sam’s, but the recording studio is a great place for VOX enhancements. And Dave somehow makes it through his live performances and even pulls it together with quality vocals on stellar tunes like “Little Dreamer”. To me a bigger challenge is DLR and Ed getting along well enough to pull it off. Ed’s more sober nowadays, so we can still hope.
February 8th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Sorry, don’t care about this at all. I got what I wanted, Roth is back with VH, working on a new album All the rest is just noise. A little less Chickenfoot, and a lot more VH would be great, please. In fact a new album update thread here would be outstanding. Is it still called “Encore”?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
• I meant what I said about some of Chickenfoot’s songs sounding dated — but what they lack in originality they more than make up in talent. Their live shows are awesome but they need to start hitting the bigger arenas. I can respect Sam’s decision to stay clear from Van Halen covers. I still can’t help but imagine Satch rocking “Summer Nights” or “Poundcake” though. God, I could just hear Ed’s phone call to Howard Stern…
• Dooley: Good point on the Roth thing. I have to agree that Sammy’s voice is stronger and he hits the higher notes, but Dave’s got some pretty decent range himself. I remember how he used to kind of talk his way through the tougher songs in 80’s concerts, but this last tour he sounded pretty good to me; especially in the grittier classics like “Runnin with the Devil” and “Unchained”. Songs like “I’ll Wait” were a bit flat though. Not too many people picked up his “Diamond Dave” cd from ’03 –- but that would show anybody how silky his voice can sound with the proper studio mixing.
• I too will keep hoping the naysayers are wrong. Till then I’ll be eating chicken. 2010 might be an incredible year for music.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
At least Sammy’s one of the most popular Lead Vocalists who can get along with other bands. He did music with Van Halen, Tony Keith, Kenny Chesney, Steve Perry, Neal Schon, Meatloaf, Alice Cooper, Slash, Huey Lewis, Roy Rogers, Melissa Etheridge, Rob Zombie & the list goes on…
That my friends is the ULTIMATE “Red Rocker” Sammy Hagar who can basicly cover almost anything.
February 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
CDB — if you haven’t heard, all that b.s. about Alex saying “Encore” was the name of the album was in fact just that, B.S. The rumor started from a phony news blog, Transmission from Pluto or something. It was completely fictitious.
So yeah, the only news to report of Van Halen are new youtube posts and Alex’s new cymbals, and Ed’s new guitars. (they come in purple now, apparently). *yawn*
If you’re sick of the Chickenfoot news stories, THEN DON’T READ THEM! Just don’t bitch about the lack of Halen news. VHND doesn’t have much to work with.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
It’s style man. Style is everything. Style is not to be confused with class. A Mercedes Benz is class because it represents money; however, chilly dogs have absolutely no class but a great deal of style. And punk rock, new wave, whatever you have, reggae, rastafari, haircuts, what have you are all different kinds of styles. None of them, however, have any class. I got class.
DLR
February 8th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Joe Perry is an overrated guitar player.
February 8th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Whether or not you like Sammy or not, musicians and industry types “like him” because he’s such a good guy, and “respect him” because he’s sold millions of albums and CDs…before, during, and after VH.
The Aerosmith thing is way off base…I simply think it’s because there aren’t too many other singers who could hit the same high notes at Steven Tyler. (Just saw Sebastian Bach, and even he would have trouble with it in 2010. He was awesome though.)
The new Foot DVD, I’m told, is done beautifully…lots of angles, just all-round a professionally done DVD. I’m stoked…I just LOVE concert DVDs!
Cheers to all of you who are pumped for new tunes…and don’t just sit around like jaded little girls bitching and moaning about a band who is actually out there, kicking ass, and making more great music.
February 8th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
P.S. I meant to say “millions of albums and concert tickets”…
February 9th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Made me laugh when I saw Best new talent! How can Chickenfoot be best new talent, they are all established musicians with a combined age of 218.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:31 am
That poll was taken from Guitar World, of course theyre going to favour Joe Satriani over Josh Homme or any of those other bands. You’d always pick your favourite lead player over some other groups who were just “okay” in comparison.
(Saying that, TCV’s album was GREAT)
Seems like money for old rope. There isn’t enough new talent to break the airwaves so they give these competitions to bands comprised of those who already have decades of success behind them…sad really but thats the way Rock seems to be going these days.
@CDB – don’t believe everything you read my friend. Somebody said a load of stuff last year about Van Halen announcing a tour for this year, still hasn’t happened. VH.COM (or whatever the website is) is pretty dead. VHND do what they can with the material given, and the majority of users here want to know more about Chickenfoot, and as they are actually making records, promoting and touring, theres a lot to draw on. Sadly, there is little heard from Eddie and the boys apart from new merchandise (or new excuses but I’m not going into that one!). We all love VH and we’re all pleased with the current situation, we’d just all like to hear a bit more from Edward. On the flipside, maybe he’s taking some time in his life to actually live and do his own thing, rather than adhere to what everybody else wants him to do. Time will tell.
February 9th, 2010 at 7:08 am
Wouldnt be suprised if sam did join aerosmith. He can never stick with one band for too long.
Sam should have a variety show. He could come out and be a different character each time. One min he could be 70′s sammy…the next he could poof his hair up and be the “I dont drive 55″ sammy….then he can be the sam that became the frontman of VH…then he could have that beachbum dont shower look and be waborita sam…and then a bunch of feathers can be thrown into the air for the finale and he can be chickenfoot sammy! Then the show ends! No…..wait! Another encore!!!!? Sam! You’re too good to us fans!!! Is that joe perry’s guitar playing the opening riff of “walk this way!!!!?” YES! It’s now AEROSMITH SAMMY!! WOW!!!!!!!!!
Tune in next week folks when sam does magic tricks with your favourite sam era vh songs playing in the background!!!!!!!!
Ah jeez….
February 9th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Pete….
Funny u mention “Baz” man!
He’s actually playing tonight at this bar called “Mulcahyes” in wantagh, NY. About 10 mins or so from me! I cant make it unfortunatly but should be a great show! Caught him live twice (most recently in 2007)and the guy is a great frontman. He still has the pipes and he’s constantly moving.
Funny s.o.b too.
When did you see him and where?
Was he opening or closing the show?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:09 am
To Steve above – the DLR Band is a fine record and is proof positive that Roth will deliver the goods with Van Halen. It was a far more Van Halen record than Van Halen III or Balance (and intended as a demonstartion of such after the 1996 debacle). Maybe he can’t hit the screams anymore, but the rest of his voice is intact because he never sang out of his range.
People who think Sammy is hardworking are mistaking quantity for quality. Sammy is hard working when it comes to touring and partying – but the last thing he is is a hard working musician.
Its pretty obvious he spends no time working on his lyrics, or asking anyone else to help. The lyrical content is also threadbare and could be substituted from one tune to the next. He has two sets of lyrics: cheesy ballad, sexist inuendo rocker.
And its not just lyrics — he also approaches each tune with the same two musical approachs. If Jimmy Page had asked Sammy to write the lyrics for Kashmir, he would have come up with something totally cliche — just like he did on the middle eastern riff Joe wrote in Chickenfoot. I think Eddie was right about Sam – he has no work ethic.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:01 am
The DLR album is an underrated album that will eventually (if it already hasnt) become a rock cult classic. It’s right up there with john corabi playing and singing on the “one” CRUE album after vince left. Sold poorly when released, but now considered a lost classic.
Thats how I feel about The DLR Band cd.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Eddie saying Sam has no work ethic? Now that is priceless.
Music is subjective and you like who you like. If that wasn’t the case how can you explain a voice like Rod Stewart’s making it to the big time?
You know I was struck by something this weekend. I was watching a Paladia cable concert on TV with Robert Plant. The concert was pretty good, but Plant looked every bit his age … with the occasional old man shakiness to his voice. His face was looking deeply lined (made more striking by him still sporting that long hair), but then I realized he was 60+. So I decided to look up his exact age, and then looked up Sam Hagar. Sammy is almost a year older than Plant. It hit me then how remarkable Sam Hagar is. Love him or hate him, he is really defying father time … both in appearance and voice.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:43 am
FMAC and Dooley, I hope I am wrong too!! I love the DLR Band CD. In fact I should listen to it today. But his voice did sound pretty wasted on those high notes. I do agree with you that it didn’t hurt the overall vibe of the songs. They were still a lot of fun. But my main point above was not that they couldn’t make something good. It was really that it was going to be very difficult given the fact that it has been soo long and Dave’s voice was a major delay in 1996 just working on two songs (if you believe the producer and VH Bros)
February 9th, 2010 at 9:53 am
haha Duck.. good old Mulc’s. They do get some great bands there. Decent sound system too. Although the crowd of 19 year olds can be a bit much at times, but great bar!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:14 am
The one thing that’s truly great about dave is that he has a cool voice. Now, i’m not saying that he still has what he had from 77-85. After all those years of being THE frontman for one of the baddest rock bands in the world, it would be ridiculous to expect him to sound like he did 30 years ago.
From what I saw when I’ve seen him live he still has it. Shit, he never lost it….just got older. I thought he did an amazing job at the show I caught in 2007. And by the roar of the crowd after each song I think they agreed….
February 9th, 2010 at 10:52 am
FAMAC – for you I will make an exception to my rule to not revisit the Sammy & Eddie thing.
You are in complete denial if you compare Sammy’s work ethic to Ed’s. Sammy has toured every year since his split with VH, made a bunch of new CD’s, released DVDs, and even started a new band.
Music is subjective, so I understand not everyone is going to like this artist or that artist. That’s cool.
But for you to say Eddie was right that Sammy had no work ethic is completely assinine in the face of the facts. You were usually a credible cat in the past but when it comes to your post, I’ll have a half-order of what you’re having because it’s clearly some powerful stuff.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:14 am
FAMAC — You get your point across well on the generic Sammy lyrics. The CF ballads: “Lost in a sea of memories, learning to fly again…” blah-blah-blah and the lyrics for the heavier songs were pretty contrived too.” Fast cars, fast women, I need love” whatever. At least he spared us all the food metaphors. BUT I don’t see how you can compare that to Sammy being lazy; just maybe a little predictable at times. There are some songs that have some pungent lyrics, like Avenida Revolution:
“Rio Grande crawling with desperation
Hard drugs linin’ the gunny sack
The air is thick with desperation
A new life waits for the wetback…”
But then they go into a refrain “Crossing the borderline, into the fire” — a little cheesey I guess. The music must be a matter of taste. I love it personally and I know they’re gonna bring it full force on the next album.
DUCK — you are a funny dude. Gotta laugh at your Sammy comments. Sure, Hagar might have a few different personas. But can’t the same be said for Diamond Dave? — gigalo / lounge singer / radio anouncer / Rocker.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Who cares? Love chickenfoot..great band. But just because some FORMER members of Van Halen are in the band doesnt mean we need to cover news about them on this site. New music or not…keep it VH oriented
February 9th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Dirty Duck: Van Halen could do the same type of variety show. First it could be The original line up, but by the end Eddie would get mad at Dave because he is getting all the attention. Then Sammy could come out and Eddie would act like he’s his best friend for a little while but then Sam would do something that Eddie doesn’t agree with 100% and he would be done. Then Gary could come out and Eddie would declare he has a voice like an angel. Gary would brown nose for awhlie because he actually can’t believe he’s in Van Halen. The ass kissing would get old after awhile, so Gary would leave. then after a long break, Sammy would come onstage again, but by now Eddie is so drunk he can’t even walk, so off goes Sammy again. After a long delay, they come back out with Roth, but no Michael Anthony because eddie sees him talking to Sammy and that is intolerable for King Edward. Eddie has he’s son play bass, because hey let’s face it, he won’t talk back to him and will do as he is told. They play for a little while and do OK. Then they take a long break and leave the audience wondering what is going on…
February 9th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Famac – Having a work ethic has nothing to do with the quality of your work – it simply means you’re willing to actually do the work. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion on the quality of Sam’s music but Eddie calling out Sam on his work ethic is a joke. And for you to agree is a joke. You can look it up to compare output since VH and Sam broke up:
Sam:
6 solo studio albums;
1 solo live album;
3 solo DVDs;
6+ tours including “sans halen” with DLR, Other Half, etc.;
Recording with Planet Us, which was scrapped for . . .
Reunion tour with Van Halen in 2004 (including 2 new songs);
1 album with Chickenfoot;
1 tour with Chickenfoot; and coming soon . . .
Chickenfoot DVD and work on 2nd Chickenfoot album.
Ed:
1 new studio album (VH III) and 2 best ofs (Vol I and BOBW);
3 tours (Cherone, Hagar Reunion, Roth reunion)
No contest when it comes to work ethic.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
kayser sozay: I agree that Sammy’s work ethic should not be in question. However, I do not agree that Eddie’s lack of releasing music has anything to do with his work ethic as you stated. Ed has made it clear that he has tons of music but recently we discovered from him why we haven’t heard it. IN addition to having NO band to release music with, the main point Ed made was acceptance of his material had become the issue. In guitar magazine he eluded to nothing but critical reviews of everything he has released since 1996. So, we do it if people don’t like it??? I took his point well.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
sorry typo.. meant to say “why” do it at the end instead of “we”
February 9th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
VH at the halftime show would be EPIC! I’d say they are more deserving than the blokes in The Who. Like The Who even watch american football! American football and American’s baddest rock and roll band, just makes sense to me.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
I just googled VH at super bowl and found a cool link where you can vote, like it matters but VH is second right now to NIN. newsroom.mtv.com/2010/02/08/super-bowl-halftime-poll/
February 9th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
After reading some of the comments to the related story here on VHND, it got me to thinking of the old addage: “Is a complete and total donk too dumb to know he’s a complete and total donk?”
Now that I think about it, I believe the addage may have been about a tree falling in the forest, but donk works better for this forum.
Seriously, the Sam and Dave b.s. gets started again…over some silly speculation?
From time to time there are thought provoking posts, (ie:Dooley and others)but too often, useless drivel from some who are short of brain power and long on time on their hands.
February 9th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Kayser:
Im the first to agree that sam has done a lot in the world of rock and roll. I’ve called him the “buisnessman” not a rock star for years now and I think he’s proven my point for me. He’s been part of more projects than any other musician I’ve known about, and I dont think its always a good thing.
I want you and many other sammy hagar fans to be completely honest with me about something. Are you all going to tell me that you think that “everything” sam has done over the past 30 years memorable? Sure montrose was cool….I’ll give them credit where its deserved. But sam solo? Sure I can count about 5 songs that sam did that put him on the rock map…but full albums? I know I’m going to be told that it’s only my opinion, but I just dont think he’s made any impact with his albums. When I see greatest rock albums of all time specials (tv magazine etc) there’s never a sammy album mentioned.
My point here is that eddie has been part of 11 studio albums combined with over a 100 songs that have made MASSIVE impact in the rock world and have become a major piece of americana. Being a huge film buff I’ll take a quote from one of my favourite movie directors “fred dekker” (Night of the creeps / The monster squad )”I would rather make 5 or 6 really great films that people will always remember, then make a hundred, and a good percentage of them suck”.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
@Kayser sozay
Really, quantity over quality? I’m glad you don’t work for me. I’d be broke!! Do you read the news at all? Ask TOYOTA and the proud owners of a camary about quantity over quality!
February 9th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Give it a break DUCK, you keep talking about the past, talk about the future, Sammy and Chickenfoot have class, and if Aerosmith want Hagar, it will be for the same reason Eddie Van Halen took on Hagar twice now and probably will try again. Because what ever Hagar touches turns to GOLD.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Sammy’s not a great lyric writer, never has been. Yeah he might come up with a melody or chorus but that’s about it. These rumours of him replacing Steven Tyler in Aerosmith is an insult to Stephen Tyler. Stephen Tyler is a brilliant lyric and songwriter. It is no wonder his songs resonates with every generation. Like Alex Van Halen said once about Sammy, “Sam’s a screamer”. And there’s nothing wrong with that, look what it did for Brian Jonhson. But Tyler and Roth have a unique original sound and they have that blues growl that Sam just doesn’t. Sam better be careful he doesn’t put himself into many pots or else he’ll be known/labelled as just a ‘singer for hire’. Not good for his ego, look what it did for Joe Lyn Turner, just the thought of his name is cringe worth.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
the drama continues….
February 9th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Speculative opinions…so rewarding.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
DUCK…you can’t blame Sammy for someone spreading the Aerosmith rumor. It’s a compliment that he’s seen as a worthy candidate, but there’s no way he’s planning that AND recording the next Chickenfoot.
I get that some people don’t like his art, I get that. That’s cool. Judge him on what he does, that’s fair.
But don’t blame the guy for what a rumor says he “might” do. (I think his manager’s comment is pretty unequivocal in that he’s NOT doing the Aerosmith thing.)
February 9th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
The Duck speaks the truth.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Chickenfoot and I’m glad Sammy & Mike have been so active. I am really impressed with how great they have been doing. Go Chickenfoot!
But I also agree that truly great music (including, in my opinion, 95% of what Van Halen has ever recorded) is TIMELESS. Van Halen gave the world around 100 songs that are just as good now as they were 15, 20, or 30 years ago. Heck, they gave us 20 years worth of incredible music. (Sure, in a perfect world, they would have never slowed down, but 20 straight years of cranking out TRUE QUALITY MUSIC is an incredible feat. I can only think of one band who has written great music for longer than 20 years, and that would be the Stones. (But I like VH much better). Not even Zeppelin, the Beatles, etc were active for that long.
While the songs that Sammy has done outside Van Halen have been occasionally good or even great, he has never given the world any song as popular as “Jump,” or any song as special as “Dreams,” or as kick ass as “Unchained,” or as musically impressive as “Hear About It Later,” or as rebellious as “Runnin’ With The Devil”, or as fun as “Dance The Night Away,” or as funny as “Hot For Teacher”, or as fun-in-the-sun as “Beautiful Girls,” or as sexy as “Everybody Wants Some!”
And I don’t blame Sammy for not topping those songs! I don’t think anyone can, including even the current form of Van Halen. Those songs are as great as rock ‘n’ roll has ever been, and by the looks of things now-a-days, as good as it will EVER get.
Sammy has been very active since Van Halen, which is great for him and his fans. But when you look at quality versus quantity, Van Halen will be cherished and remembered much more than Chickenfoot, or Montrose, or Sammy Hagar, or whatever Wolfgang does (if anything), etc.
Van Halen had *PURE MAGIC* from 1978-1995, and that is why we all are here.
February 9th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
To Dirty Duck,
Well said and without being mean. Just common sense and the FACTS!!!! KING EDWARD VAN HALEN re-landscaped the music landscape. Enuff said!! ‘Eruption’ and many others are part of the golden music archives, alongside The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, etc.
These anti-EVH’s and naysayers seem to have selective memories when they currently label Eddie & Van Halen’s status today as lazy. Music is not a race or a competition it is the greatest healer. Sammy might throw out a couple of albums ever year or so but they barely make an impact and hardly set the world on fire. Van Halen have archived the ultimate achievement “Worldwide Success”, they nothing to prove, they’ve made their mark, they will never make music in spite of or because Sammy or Chickenfoot have album No. 2 coming up next. Van Halen goes by their rules and their time. Damn!! They were signed when Disco and Punk was big, yet Van Halen prevailed and rewrote Rock n Roll!!
These anti-EVH’s and naysayers seem to forget in the beginning; 6 albums with 6 marathon tours in 6 years!!! And let’s not forget the months travelling and all the excesses that Rock n Roll is all about. Oh and for those non-musicians, the writing process and recording does take its toll, physically and mentally. By the time Sammy came in you could tell Eddie was mentally scared from Dave’s exit from Van Halen. It took its toll and he was burnt out. But like a true team player that he is, Eddie played through the pain barrier. The music of ‘Van Hagar’ didn’t have that fire, dirty, bluesy and gunslingin’ badass King Edward Van Halen. Those first 6 glories albums are a part of every serious music collector’s collection. For those that don’t have the first 6 albums of Van Halen? I don’t trust you!!!!
I’m not a gambling man but I bet Van Halen is hard at work on a new album, it’s what they do. And remember Van Halen don’t things half hearted, they give their all. That’s why their music will forever be talked about, analysed and played over and over and still asking the question how did he do that?!!
February 9th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Hey guys,if you like tokin’ and sippin’ to Sammy music then go ahead,but mozart he ain’t.I don’t care if he’s done 57 solo albums,38 tours,and 18 dvd’s in a short time.Mcdonald’s throws out a lot of junk in a short time too.Also his lyrics are still in the “red on the head bet she was good in bed” vein.At least dave had clever ways to sing about partying.Sorry no argument changes my opinion on Hagar.
February 9th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Adam…I love you man. You’re the kind of fan that comprised the group of friends I had that would spend hours rockin’ out on the back porch drinkin’ some beers, smokin’ some herb and packin’ up to go see the show. It’s like you were there with us. Thanks…
February 9th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
chris it is guys like you that don’t know what they are talking about. the music you love was written by eddie and the music you don’t care for was written by eddie. i agree that vh is eddie but he writes the music he hires the singers and he pretty much calls the shots. to put down van hagar music is hypocritical because ed wrote the music. if you don’t like van hagar music thats cool and thats your opinion but to say that it sucked is not a matter of opinion just based on the length of time the band was together and the sales that were generated by that version of van halen. i am also not a gambling man but i can assure you noone held a gun to eddie and told him to write and record the songs van hagar did. you guys keep blaming sam for van hagar but who asked him to sign on and sing? you need to see that eddie was his own worst enemy and the choice he made in his life are what has affected the legacy that will be van halen. 3 lead singers. tell me the name of another big time band that went thru 3 singers. i am not a hater but ed screwed this thing up and even just the way mike was treated says it all. and on top of the band drama he also has a failed marriage on top of it. and one final thing here i think the only ones who really give a shit about this are the 30 or so people who come to this sight consistently. no one is holding their breath for any new music.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
THE ONLY REASON WE ALL GET INTO IT WITH THESE DEBATES IS BECAUSE WE ARE BORED VAN HALEN FANS. Little to no material in many years. So we all sit around arguing with each other about dumb things because we have listened to the same albums over and over again to the point that we’re all nuts from the repetition. Remember when the Van Halen albums were coming out soo fast we were just staring to get sick of the last one when the new came out to save the day? Those days are soo gone now that we’ve all gone stark raving mad:)…
February 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Steve – you make a fair counterpoint to what I was saying. I wasn’t judging the quality of Sam v. Ed. I was simply explaining that when Ed called out Sam’s “work ethic” he was implying Sammy doesn’t like to work. Which is belied by the facts. Your point that perhaps Ed has been hard at work making tons of music he hasn’t released is a fair one. I have no idea. Maybe it is true. If I had to guess, though, I would doubt that he’s been at work in any serious sense – but if I’m right, I don’t attribute that to Ed being lazy so much as I attribute that to the demons Ed’s been wrestling with for years now and the fact I think his confidence is shot from the reception VH III received and the fact that a lot of VH fans have been very critical of his choices, treatment of others, decisions, etc. (rightly so in my opinion). I’m just calling it like I see it – I’m not trying to bash Ed because he truly is one of my heroes and one of a handful of “pioneers” in rock regardless of whether he ever picks up a guitar again.
FatCat – You completely missed my point. I wasn’t arguing that quantity was better than quality or something to strive for over qualiy. I was simply arguing that “work ethic” has nothing to do with the quality of one’s work – just whether or not one is willing to do the work. Period.
And Duck – I will answer your question honestly. No, I don’t think everything Sam has done is memorable. The first Montrose album was epic. I also think HSAS was amazing. And then you’re right, he’s only got a handful of solo tunes that people recognize instantly. Even though I like a lot of Sam’s solo stuff, I don’t consider it as being anything close to as significant as his music with VH (or VH with Roth – I love VH with both singers). VH was the best thing that ever happened to him and the primary reason he’s famous at all. The Chickenfoot album really cemented for me that Sam is at his best when he’s working with a musical genius. There was Eddie and now he’s working with Joe Satriani. Before you get your dander up understand that while I really like CF, I’m not putting CF’s music on par with VH. I’m only saying that CF is the best thing Sam’s done since leaving VH and he’s really elevated his game whereas with the exception of two post VH solo albums and a smattering of post-VH songs from his other albums, I think Sam was for the most part phoning it in.
Although I defend Sam and admire the guy, there is no denying that he will never have a musical legacy like Ed’s and that what musical legacy he does have will always be tied to Ed. But the reason why I admire Sam and forgive him for any musical shortcomings is that no matter what you think about his music, there is no denying that he does what he does for all the right reasons. He does it because he loves his fans and he loves his job. And he’s as down to Earth as can be. And that’s rare for someone who is his age and has achieved his level of success in life.
So yes, I will absolutely agree with you that Sam will never have the historical musical significance of Eddie. However, (and I hope you will return the favor by being honest with me on this point) unlike Ed, he’s still out there doing it, still going strong, still sounding great, still writing lyrics (yes, many of them cheesy but not all of them) and the guy is turning 63 this year (looks 43 – go Cabo Wabo)! So while I understand there are those who don’t like Sam’s music, I don’t understand a lot of the animosity people here and elsewhere have toward him. My best guess is that it’s because he’s a constant in-our-face reminder of how our most fervent yet unrequited desire as VH fans is that Ed would take a page out of Sam’s book and just DO SOMETHING because we know how good it could be.
Cheers.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
they will probably release a 3rd cd b4 van halen put out one , god forbid evh to b unselfish
February 9th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Look edward van halen is probably the second most selfish person to axl rose .
Gees how many times can i guy straight out lie? sammy work ethic, Daves huge ego , getting rid of cherone , all edward van halens , gees he has very little back bone .
Gees and childish???? that rock n roll hall of fame debacle , that was embaressing , as a VH fan i was ashamed
Cld he be anymore self centred??? oh poor eddie im so talented , ill become an alcoholic , n from what was said he was so self centred at dimebags funeral, incredible!!!!!!
He treats the fans with absolute contempt , dont ever say the fans meen the world to me?????? gees they came to oz once with gary cherone!!!!!! gees dave n sammy have been.
At least they cld release a dvd with some rare concerts but no , why wld u give fans anything??????
Gees try touring the world?????? have they ever really done a world tour outside of america?????? its always been about the dollar , even more so then kiss!! even they release dvds , gees bonjovi release more dvds every yr then vh
Lets go through all vh bad decisions!
ou812 terrible album , the worst production on any album , am i right????eddie shd never be behind a recording desk
mitch malloy !!!! what a great singer , but no
gary cherone , nice guy but cldnt sing 4 shit , n pranced around like a fairie on stage
vh 3 production was tttteeeerrrrible , the songwriting dreadful, how can professional musicians do that??
let me sing a song !!!!!!!!!!!!!! yikes!!! how many camn say i!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does eddie even admit to 3???
Get rid of michael anthony, there goin to pay 4 that one trust
we only tour the us because it makes the most money 4 us.
Alex always says wld led zep do that????? THEY WLDNT HAD HIRED CHERONE 4 STARTERS !!
Eddie n Alex have ruined the VH legacy , yes its sad but they will be remembered 4 a great band , music , ruined by selfish people who cldnt get over their own egos
February 9th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
How about some drama for your mama???? It’s old give it a rest!!!
February 10th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Adam—Sammy did not give us a song as special as “Dreams”???? I DO BELIEVE HE WROTE IT!!!! Can’t believe everyone else missed that!
February 10th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Pete:
What I wrote about the variety show I was just goofin’ around. A funny thought popped in my head and I went with it. Not blaming sammy for anything. Just saying that if sam was asked to join aerosmith I wouldnt be suprised if her stuck it in his schedule. The man can be a band whore.
I think I just made that term up. Quote me eiether way. Again pete…just my opinion brother.
Kayser:
Thanks man for your honest and intelligent anwser.
I know we’ve butted heads in the past, but I’ve always respected your views. I wish I could have conversations like this with others.
Chris and Adam:
Thanks for the support! Looks like I’m not the only one that get’s where I’m coming from. But at the same time it is all a matter of opinion. I could rant and rave and “speak the truth” for hours and sam fans will stay sam fans. Same with us die hard classic vh fans. It’s a double edged sword for everyone. Including me….
Halenhagar:
Living in the past? Funny coming from a guy who goes by “Halenhagar”. They havent recorded an album since 96′.
It’s 2010 putz (Copyright: SCAR 2007-present)it loooks like YOU’RE living in the past no? If you’re not going to have a normal conversation with me why bother writing anything?
Someone give this guy a hug….
February 10th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Vah Hagar was the counterfeit Vah Halen brought to you by Eddie, just like the USA now has counterfeit money brought to you by the Federal Reserve…
February 10th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Van Halen, not Vah Halen…
February 10th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Except the Unlawful album… Thumbs up on that one
February 10th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Tony!
Almost forgot about you man!
I see where you’re coming from about dave, but hear me out.
Have you ever read his book: Crazy form the heat?
The man is a walking encyclopedia of music and books. An avid reader who absorbed everything and anything intresting as a child, dave’s early influence of music was: Al Jolsen. One of his favourite album’s of all time is the (you ready for this?)”Saturday night fever” soundtrack! Odd yes but it shows right there that he had an ear for everything. Was I happy with dave going from badass frontman to vegas act? No…not really. But that whole “Rat pack” thing was also part of his many influences. Playing vegas was something he wanted to be a part of waaaay before he fronted VH. Thats why when he did the “crazy from the heat EP” it never bothered me. That was the music that shaped him into who he was. I’ve always respected dave for the fact that he always took chances and did what the fuck he wanted to do. He didnt sit around waiting on managers to give an “ok”. He got out there and gave it a shot. He didnt jump on any bandwagons (thank christ we didnt have any david lee roth featuring p-diddy shit)and never sold out. I think many out there only know dave as the frontman of VH…not the history behind him. As far as being an EMT…again, cant knock a guy for trying to save lives. Not many rockers I know of are out there doing that shit. I never got why anyone would knock him for that. ?? Anyway…anything that dave has done has been from the roots of who he is as a human being. When I see sammy standing next to the chef “emerll” or whatever his name is it’s just….weird. I’m rambling again tony! Sorry brother! There’s so much more I want to write but this is a sam thread and I’m not one to hog up space that to many here is not needed. Thanks for the response!
February 10th, 2010 at 8:10 am
The way things are going I wouldn’t be surprised to see Chickenfoot at next year’s Super Bowl. That wouldn’t be bad (far better than many other acts for sure) but it would be a shame if Halen still hasn’t done anything to merit at least consideration for a Super Bowl appearance!
Fingers still crossed for the Deluxe Ultra VH Super Combo Boxed Set with DVDs, new album, b-sides, live tracks from club days … Wishful thinking.
Funny thing is, I remember reading years ago that Mikey was the one with the vast collection of live recordings from way back in the early, early days. Good luck getting those priceless gems now! Bummer.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:22 am
jc:
LOL!
February 10th, 2010 at 8:58 am
“3) LIVE DVD UPDATE:
Joe Satriani was interviewed at the VOX booth during the NAMM 2010 show and said that Chickenfoot’s upcoming DVD will be released in sometime in April and will contain at least one hour of really cool bonus features in addition to the live concert filmed in Tempe, Arizona last year.”
Joe doesn’t say anything about the live DVD being the Tempe, Arizona show. They also recorded the Atlanta show.
So where did this Tempe quote come from?
February 10th, 2010 at 9:00 am
D-Commish said:
“Adam—Sammy did not give us a song as special as “Dreams”???? I DO BELIEVE HE WROTE IT!!!! Can’t believe everyone else missed that!”
I was wondering if someone was going to say that! That wasn’t a mistake on my part – I was listing some of the best Van Halen songs I could think of, and Dreams was one of them. I was not only listing Dave-era songs… I tried to list more Sammy-era, but most of their classics are from the Dave-era, so I ended up listing only one song from the Sammy-era.
My whole point was, Sammy’s solo career can’t top all those classic VH songs, (from either era). And, of course, neither could Roth’s solo career. And if Eddie had a solo career, he wouldn’t be able to top classic VH either.
And here’s some info that the true die-hards would know – Dave DID help write Dreams. Dreams, Good Enough & Summer Nights were mostly finished when Sammy joined the band. Sam wrote the lyrics. No one knows if he used the melody that Dave wrote, or if he scrapped it and made a new melody. Alex has said he has tapes of Dave singing those 3 songs. (Wouldn’t we LOVE to hear that)!!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Kayser Sozay – that was a great post!
February 10th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Speaking of priceless gems. Does anyone remember the interview that VHND did with Michael Anthony in November of 2008? Mike admitted to having old Van Halen stuff and that ocassionally fans would find old recorded stuff and send to him. Of course MA also admitted that he could never put any of it out because the brothers would sue his ass off!
February 10th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Man oh man. I read a few gripes about all the ChickenFoot coverage but I’ll be damned. This post spawned some of the best comments I’ve read on the VHND in a lo-o-ong ass time.
Big props to KAYSER for laying it down like slutty cheerleaders on prom night (that was corny, sorry, Hagar wrote it) JUST KIDDING. Hagar rocks [period].
And DIRTY DUCK thanks for the quacks dude. I do love Roth’s many multiple talents but just had to play devil’s advocate and ruffle your feathers a bit. DLR’s a great artist too. I didn’t read his book to answer your question, but might check it out.
All the wise VHND gurus posted some great shit in this thread. I’m still digesting it all and weeding out the bullshit. Damn, if you don’t speak English than don’t bother trying to type a novel on here, people! Ugh! What is this unintelligible babble?!
Speaking of babbling, here I go again. . . I think the blessing & the curse of being a Van Halen die-hard fan, is that from the time they stopped recording music; it left a dark and meaningless void in the world of rock. (Like Adam & Steve were saying) So we listen and RE-listen to the same cd’s over and over and download countless bootlegs — looking for every last wad of glorious music. Kinda like a pot head scraping the bong for every last drop of resin. Well we smoked it all up now! SO, along comes (IMO) a KICK-ASS rock group like Chicken Foot (comprised of ex-Van Halen musicians no-less) and they release a respectable first album with guitar licks and grooves we haven’t been fed in a LONG TIME. If you don’t like it, then fine! BUT, for those of you that INSTANTLY hate the ‘Foot for the fact that they’re not Van Halen?! Hey, pop the cd in the car on the way to work (those of us that actually leave the basement once in awhile) and give it a listen. You might be glad you did. YES, it’s a DIFFERENT SOUND then Van Halen. But once you smoke the good shit, nothing else tastes as sweet.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I know all things are relative and money is money but at some point this type of feuding between rock n rollers well past 45 who have already known such great times and success becomes laughable. “I’m going to sue you if you release that tape of us back at Joe’s BBQ in ’74!” Really? Unfortunately, yes.
Aerosmith seems to be heading down the same clusterf*cked path. Not to mention Ozzy and Sharon rereleasing several old albums remixed with new studio musicians so they wouldn’t have to pay such high royalties to the original guys. The day Van Halen does that with Mike’s parts on all the old records (for the video game was bad enough!) is the day I quit them. These people sound and act like a bunch of teenage kids sometimes.
I says get ova yo’selves!
February 10th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Thanks, Duck. The feeling is mutual. After all, we’re all VH fans here, right? But I just have to ask since you brought it up… Why defend Roth doing a Vegas lounge act as being the natural result of his passions and influences and then call Sam’s hanging out with Emeril “weird” when he has a passion for cooking and food? What’s that about if not simply an anti-Hagar bias?
Thanks to you too, Adam. Just trying to be honest.
I really don’t have an agenda here. I just like to tweak people about getting on Sam’s case because for the most part, I think people that get on his case aren’t honest with themselves about why they do it.
Roth was a rock God as Classic VH came up. One of the most compelling front men in history if you ask me. I don’t think he’s ever had anything close to Hagar’s vocal talent but it didn’t matter because he made up for it with a star quality Sam has never had so I absolutely understand why the VH fans were so rabidly loyal to him. There was absolutely nothing like classic VH when they were doing their thing. His fan base was well deserved.
When he left the band, it was a HUGE disappointment. And it was very hard for the loyal Roth fans to accept Sam when he came in. Even harder because the band’s success and popularity continued to climb with Hagar while Roth’s waned. We’ve no doubt heard the analogy before but I think it’s spot on… it’s like the child who loves both parents and they divorce.
Out of a sense of loyalty to dad, you are automatically against mom’s new boyfriend. It doesn’t matter how great the new boyfriend is. It’s just hard to watch mom become even happier and thrive with the new guy. It’s human nature to want to see your parents get back together so you can be a happy family again. So you badmouth the boyfriend. And you become critical of any change you see in your mom – regardless of whether or not the changes make mom happy or were entirely made by mom – and you blame it all on the boyfriend.
It’s no doubt easier to take if the new boyfriend isn’t some stranger out of nowhere but someone you already know and admire. This was my situtation – I was already a fan of Hagar before VH broke up. When I was 14, a friend of mine played me “Heavy Metal” off Standing Hampton and I loved it. I made him play it like 10 times back to back. Shortly after that I saw Sammy live and it was my first concert ever and it blew my mind. I’m sure we all feel the same way about our first concert experience no matter who it was. It’s a damn cool experience. So already being a fan of Hagar, the lineup change in VH was not too hard for me to take. I didn’t want Roth to leave but if he had to, I was happy to see Sam take his place. If it was someone I wasn’t a fan of, I’d likely be bashing him the same way a lot of people here bash Sam.
But I do think that’s usually what this is about. It’s those that loved Roth but didn’t already have some type of bond with Sam that bash him regardless of his merits. They were never open to the change in the first place and Sam gets the brunt. They hang their hat on the fact that VH released more ballads and became less hard edged so they say “Sam ruined VH.” Well kids, mom was able to expand her horizons a little more with the new guy but mom and the new guy could be every bit as hard – edged as mom and dad could when they chose to be.
No doubt there are those people who just flat out don’t like Sam musically and as a result could never get into VH with him at the Mike. That’s great. I said before, musical taste is a subjective thing and to each his own. But you don’t often hear those people bashing the hell out of Sam with the vitriol of a lot of people on this site. It’s those people who I equate with the kid of divorced people.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Kayser,
Thanks for an eloquent, thought provoking post.
Please, please save it for future use, and edit appropriately to shut down the next idiotic rant.
Duck, I also appreciate your posts. No doubt where your loyalty lies and I can respect that. Just out of curiosity however, I’d like to know where you’re coming from when you infer that one man’s hobby or passion (cooking) is “weird.” Seriously, I’m not looking to start anything, just observing. If for instance Ed had a hobby of collecting postage stamps, what would your take on that be?
February 10th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Oh Shit! The Mother of ALL posts! Do yourself a favor and go listen to some Van Halen instead of reading this.
I like to take a break in the day to do some writing, so today I came here and read the interesting comments and felt like writing this. I apologize in advance for my arrogance and self-importance. But it’s just for fun.
Kayser Sozay – You seem to always have something interesting and/or funny to say.
Dirty Duck – I wanted to address your post. First of all, to get something out of the way that has nothing to do with VH. I thought “The Monster Squad” was great back in the day when I was kid and I now have it on DVD with all of the extras, interviews with the cast and everything. COOL. Anyway I know I can be kind of a nerd, so with that out of the way I want to give you my answer to your post about Sammy Hagar’s music for you or anyone who cares to take the time to read it. If you don’t read it I won’t blame you – that’s cool to. I want to preface this by saying that I write long posts only because I’m passionate about music not (just) because I’m an egotistical jerk who thinks he knows everything or who thinks he’s always right about everything. I just like to converse with other people who are really into music.
To answer your question about Sammy’s music. I don’t really get in the habit of comparing bands because I don’t see a reason for it. It’s not a competition to me. I appreciate each band I listen to for different reasons but mainly cause I like the way it sounds. Not because one guitarist is better than the other or a singer has better range than another, or one has more hit records, etc. But since you asked, I’ve thought about it and I would say overall I have more good memories associated with Van Halens music than Sammy’s solo stuff. And also overall, musically I think Van Halen has been more impressive and more interesting than most of Hagar’s solo albums. And I would say I’m definitely a bigger Van Halen fan than a fan of Sammy’s solo stuff. Having said that, I think Sammy is a very talented musician (Singer, songwriter, guitar player) and I LOVE a lot of his solo material. Some of it is just fun to listen to and some of it has more meaning. And As far as you asking for Sammy fans to be honest about his material being memorable. A lot of Sammy’s material is memorable to ME but no I don’t think EVERYTHING about Sammy’s solo career is memorable to ME. I’m placing emphasis on “ME” because that’s my main point. That some things are memorable to some people and aren’t to others. I’m an individual with certain feelings towards Hagar’s music and so are you.
Dirty Duck, what you said in your post isn’t just your opinion, It’s how you FEEL about his music. And what I say about Van Halen’s or Sammy’s or Dave’s music isn’t just my opinion, it’s how I feel inside. Changing someone’s opinion about a topic of discussion is a lot easier than changing someone’s passion for music, because of all of the ways music can make us feel. Sadness, joy, aggressive, inspired, excited, depressed, carefree. The feelings and memories that music it can evoke in all of us.
Somebody could possibly help me see a different perspective on the plot of a book or movie by sharing their insight or possibly help change my opinion on a particular topic such as lawmaking or scientific processes using intelligent reasoning and theories, maybe even help change a view of mine on the matter of politics and religion through a debate with good logical points. Music however is much more complex. Nobody, no matter how hard they tried, could make me feel like I didn’t love a certain kind of music anymore. No amount of talking, persuading, rationalizing by someone could change my perceptions on what music means to me. I think that’s why people seem to be so incredibly opinionated (including me) when it comes to discussing musical tastes. Music is a part of all of us and it makes us all feel something different at times. Those feelings are hard to change, and when they are felt they become a part of you.
It’s not my opinion that I love Van Halen, Pink Floyd, and Pantera. It’s inside of me, it’s how I feel. I can’t really explain to you, or anyone else in words how Hagar’s music or others music is memorable to me. Because, it just is.
But I think music in particular is memorable to a person for a combination of reasons.
Like how each person is affected by certain sounds from different types of music or bands. Certain types of music affects us in different ways. Some people think Heavy Metal like Pantera is loud noise, but I love it. It energizes me and helps me get through rough patches of anger and aggression. Some people “don’t get” Pink Floyd or think it’s boring. I think it’s brilliant and I like to space out with it.
I Also think what makes music memorable to someone is what the lyrics mean to a person, how they relate and what the lyrics personally mean to them, and also what life experiences you associate with certain songs. (i.e. when people say “That is part of the soundtrack to my life.”)
A lot of times I think people stick with certain bands or musicians throughout their life because they were listening to them during significant times in their lives. Especially the phase between adolescence and adulthood. There is something special about that point in our lives.
Dirty Duck – Their have been bands that you’ve mentioned before that you thought were great that I didn’t think were anything special. But it doesn’t matter because it’s all relative to the listener. Kind of like the old adage “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.”
The fact that a book, movie, political or religious leader, an artists painting, or a rock band is memorable to one person and not the next is all relative to each persons life. Some people I’m sure would think “The Monster Squad” is a ridiculous piece of cinematic garbage. But I can appreciate it. And I have a friend who probably wouldn’t even include Van Halen on his top 50 bands of all time list. But if I made a top 50 list they would be in the top 3. It’s all relative.
Dirty Duck you said – “When I see greatest rock albums of all time specials (tv magazine etc) there’s never a Sammy album mentioned. I just don’t think he’s made any impact with his albums.”
Well, I think that’s an individuals choice to decide if his albums have made an impact. I know his music has had a positive impact on me throughout the years. And I’m sure the same would be said by a lot of the people that go to see him play live and who buy his albums. And do you really care if something is accepted by the mainstream? i.e. magazines, T.V. shows, etc. I know I sure as hell don’t give two shits about that kind of stuff. To me “If it sounds good, it is good.” It doesn’t need it to be validated by anyone else.
Duck, being a big DLR fan, does it bother you that DLR’s albums haven’t been recognized by those same magazines or T.V. specials? I hope not, it shouldn’t. Most mainstream media’s opinion on anything is bullshit.
There are a couple of things that have aggravated me about some peoples comments about Sammy. The main one is people raggin’ on Sammy’s lyrics. Really? Okay, first I have to admit even I talked some shit about the new songs on “The Best of Both Worlds” C.D. but c’mon he’s a rock and roll singer in a rock and roll band. He’s never professed to be with the likes of Voltaire, Kurt Vonnegut, or Gore Vidal for fucks sake. Some of his songs (and Dave’s) are about partying, getting pussy, and gettin fucked up. That’s rock and roll for ya. When I’m in a deeper kind of mood I listen to something else.
Both DLR and Sammy have written some cheesy songs but I don’t focus my attention on those songs because there are so many others that ROCK! Sammy and Dave have written some great songs so that’s what I listen to. Writing music ain’t that easy either. When I go back and read some of the stuff I’ve written, which at one point I thought was really good, sometimes it almost makes me cringe.
Michael Anthony has said- “Nobody has to open an encyclopedia for any of the meanings to what Sammy writes. But that’s great because everyone can relate really well to what he’s saying.”
Another thing that Sammy doesn’t get enough credit for I think (and even dissed for by some people), is his guitar playing. No he’s not an Eddie Van Halen or a Joe Satriani on the axe, but who is? Very, very few people play at that level. But Sammy is a damn fine guitar player. It ain’t easy to sing and play lead guitar at the same time. He is a musician who is respected by lots of other musicians. He has been making music since before most of us on this website were even born or were old enough to get into rock and roll.
Since I’m writing a book here it seems, I might as well suggest a few choice Hagar albums and songs if there is anyone reading this who isn’t that familiar with all of his stuff. You never know Duck (and other guys like Duck), you just might be able to add a few more songs to your list of Hagar songs you can withstand. lol.
First, any new curious fan should probably get “Unboxed.” It’s kind of an unofficial “Best Of” C.D. from his days with Geffen records which includes two new songs he did for that album. A Good two new songs too and good guitar playing by Sammy, “Buying my way into Heaven” which is a song I can relate to that expresses Sammy’s disgust and contempt for T.V. evangelists who prey and thrive off of trusting older people so as to get their money.
And the other newer song “High Hopes”. Another song I can relate to about getting inspiration and great ideas when you get high, like delusions of grandeur and shit, and then having those ideas fade away when you come down from the high.
Also check out the albums “Live 1980″ and the live album “Loud and Clear” and be sure to listen to the song “Young Girl Blues” from that album.
Obviously being a big Hagar fan I could recommend a big list of songs but here are a few songs that I think are kind of passed over gems. “Protection”, “Karma Wheel”, “Serious JuJu”, “Returning of the Wish”, and “Hands and Knees.”
One last thing, Holy Shit I wrote a lot. I hope VHND lets me post this. They probably hate me.
If anybody had the will to read this whole thing Congratulations, you don’t have A.D.D.
Might as well end this post with a few quotes, that’s the classy thing to do right?
Or is it the annoyingly douchey egotistical thing to do, I always get those two confused.
“Anything that is too stupid to be spoken is sung.” – Voltaire
“Music should never be harmless.” – Robbie Robertson
“The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There’s also a negative side.” – Hunter S. Thompson
“Music is my religion.” – Jimi Hendrix
“Music is everybody’s possession. It’s only publishers who think that people own it.” – John Lennon.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Ta Da!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
DOA – thanks. not sure anything I write would shut down any idiotic rants and not sure I’d want it to anyway. This is fun. And imagine how boring the world would be if everyone thought alike.
Panama Red – thank you. and thank you for writing a post that made mine seem short. Kidding. But it was a great post. Very well put on individual tastes and the merits of Hagar’s solo stuff.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
True enough. I surely enjoy the divergent viewpoints, but sometimes it just becomes a silly mess.
There are rewards if you can handle the wade through the sludge. Exceptional posts are here, born from the Sam to Aerosmith fictional story.
I think what’s really great are nuggets of info that some of the contributors regularly drop. Things you otherwise may not have known.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
@ halenhagar
everything EVH and DLR touch turns multiplatinum and sometimes diamond
February 10th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Them Crooked Vultures should have won that readers poll hands down. Is it just me or does Joe Satriani look like one of those guys off the classic Sesame Street skit “Fat Cat Sat Hat”? Check it out on youtube!
February 10th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Kayser Soazy – Thanks. I know my post was ridiculously long-winded. But I think your last post about how you feel about Dave and Sammy and about some of the people’s criticisms of Hagar are biased and are not really honest feelings was spot-on. I think you hit the nail right on the fuckin head man. I’m not saying EVERYONE who dislikes Hagar has biased or unjust prejudice towards him (like you stated as well). I’m sure some people just don’t like his music or sound. But I have felt some people’s comments that I’ve listened to over the years about him are just that (biased, prejudiced, angry or resentful feelings) and they didn’t really ever give him a chance. I have been wanting to express those same exact sentiments that you stated in your post and get those same points across, but I just hadn’t figured out how to in the best way yet. Great analogies helping to describe your point. I feel the same way about Dave and Sammy fronting Van Halen. They were both a perfect fit for a while, in my opinion.
Great post Kayser, it’s refreshing to read someone’s comments like that. Honest, unbiased and sincere.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Yes, PANAMA RED (another wise, VHND guru) — Thanks for another heart-felt, albeit verbose, post. And I am just the kind of nerd that actually read the whole thing.
I love Roth AND Hagar. It really blows my mind that most people that love Roth hate Hagar and vise-versa. But I ain’t gonna rehash all that shit again.
I just wanted to say, regarding Sam’s lyrics; it’s not that I want something cryptic or so deep that I can’t follow — it’s mainly all the clichés and repeating themes that bug the shit out of me. Especially since I love the music over all. It’s like some of the songs on the CF cd… I’ll just be zoning out to the sound of Sam’s booming voice, who can scream and still every note known to man and Satch & Chad and of course Mike are all adding their talents and it’s like fucking rock&roll bliss — THEN, Sam sings “all down the drain” like ten times in a row (ending of course with a loud scream and the ‘BIG ROCK’ finish), then “future in the past” then “turning left” and I’m like damn, I know I’m being hypocritical — but I would just like to see some more originality in the song writing. I just hope that he tries to mix it up more on the next cd.
I too, was hard on the 3 new songs for Best of Both Worlds. I believe I said they “SUCKED” before. Well, they probably didn’t suck. I heard he wrote them on the plane ride from Cabo and sang them in one afternoon in one take. Like you said before, maybe he was still stuck in the Waborita state of mind and couldn’t get in the zone of what Ed was composing (which was a little spotty).
And thanks, RED for your top picks of Sammy’s best stuff. I have 3 of his solo cd’s in my collection and will give those all another listen. I think that “I’ve done Everything for You”, “Red” and “55″ are all rock anthems and definitely had an impact on me. I remembered seeing him play the acoustic version of “Eagles Fly” live many times in concerts. I always thought that was an underrated song too.
So anyway, even though I bust on SOME of his lyrics once in awhile… It’s mainly that ‘I FEEL’ he can do better and have heard him do so time & again.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the top 2 bands in the “BEST NEW TALENT” category are made up of veteran rockers who have the better parts of their careers behind them? It bothers me. Where is the new talent? I like Wolfmother alright, but what else is new in the rock scene?
February 10th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
YOU GUYS ROCK…you’re all so crazy and passionate about this whacky band…it would be very cool to sit around and have a few beers with you all and debate this and that till the early morning hours…no doubt I’d learn a thing or two since I usually do from the banter on here!
I’m raising one for y’all right now…
February 10th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
panama red, well said. if you haven’t done so already i suggest you read a book titled, EDDIE VAN HALEN by dan hedges. eddie says 1 thing in there that to me says it all. if you like the song then its good. and one more thing he also said was that he writes all the music. check it out there is some good stuff in there.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
I love it. That’s what so great about this site and the regular cast of characters who post here. No matter how we think about VH with Roth, VH with Hagar, VH with Cherone, VH with nobody – and no matter whether we are critical of any member of the band or defend them no matter what, Pete’s absolutely correct. We’re all passionate about the band. Otherwise, why would we have any feelings about any of it? So cheers and thank you to you all. And you’re right Pete, it would be cool to debate these things in person over beverages. If any of you regulars find yourselves in Seattle, let me know. Beers on me.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Its all a Dutch thing!
February 10th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
panama red, respect
February 11th, 2010 at 2:11 am
First as a VH fan i luv all eras
We shd all be greatful for the music they have givin us , even though over the last few yrs its been pretty sparse( to say the least).
SAMMY HAGAR
His contribution to the VH legacy is amazing . As a singer he is up there with the best . 5150 is arguably there best album , everything about it is perfect . LWOAN is a terrific video , from the start of THERES ONLY ONLY WAY TO ROCK to ROCK N ROLL , brilliant! Where hagar started to go wrong was not play the old VH CLASSICS , which was amazingly selfish , but he wld sing rock n roll , superstitious, wild thing and addicted to love on that tour instead of classic vh????? surely runnin with the devil , mean streets etc wld of been a better choice dont ya think??? then it went rock bottom with ou812 which i consider there worst album 4 far too many reasons. THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN had to rely on ballads 4 hits and became more journey then led zep , . The monsters or rock was a terrible flop with many promotors losing money not to mention they even had metallica cldnt save them, lots of fans were leaving b4 van halen hit the stage. Sammy wearin banana tight pants looked silly .lyrically hagar is extremely avg , his moon june is very predictable n doesnt add anything to the music , even serious subjects , seventh seal or mine all mine , there very shallow without no wit at all.
Van halen never really toured the “world” did they ??? america with a couple little stops isnt a world tour is it now??? this is where bands like BON JOVI, METALLICA even NICKELBACK have become far more popular and respected
DAVID LEE ROTH
As a frontman there has been no better , there is no better entertainer . His voice imo is the best , as a singer he is good not great .From the get go he made VH a step up from everybody else , his confidence lifted the whole band to another level ( which i think still continues today). HE made the VAN HALEN mighty in the early 80s tthey were the greatest band in the world His videos r to this day brilliant n classic , how often do u hear asking bout the hot 4 teacher video? His image has been copied but never bettered . Lyrics r brilliant , he is a genius, there witty , cultured n simple , his vocal style is unique n is very hard to copy unlike hagar , who anyone with a scream can sound like . compare DROP DEAD LEGSas opposed to BLACK N BLUE you see what i mean
More to come about the rest later
February 11th, 2010 at 9:12 am
KAYSER – right on brother…and Seattle is a beautiful city.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:18 am
51 yr old fan – No, I don’t think I’ve read that. Thanks for the recommendation.
I read “Crazy from the Heat” years ago though. Can’t remember much about it except that I though it was pretty entertaining. Dave has lived a interesting life. I think I remember that I just wished it contained more VH info. But It was a DLR book not a VH book.
I’ll go buy and read Sammy’s autobiography when and if it’s ever finished too.
I bet guys like Dirty Duck will rush out and buy it at midnight when it first goes on sale. Kidding.
Tony – I’m impressed and also kind of feel sorry for anyone who read my entire post. I got your little nod / jab at me for the “FEEL” thing. I was just trying to convey the difference of having an opinion on a subject and the different affect that music has on us. But I won’t start up with all that crap again and bore anybody. You know what I’m saying anyway.
“Eagles Fly” has always been one of my fav Sammy solo songs, and “Give to Live” too. Except I don’t listen to them that much anymore though, cause I kinda burnt myself out on certain Sammy and VH songs.
I would love it when Sammy would play that song with Van Halen. Sometimes it would just be him and his acoustic guitar and it was a really cool vibe and brief change of pace at the shows. But what I thought was even cooler sometimes was when Sammy would play “Eagles Fly” and halfway through the song Alex would bust into the song and then the rest of the band would rock it out!
As much as I disagree with guys like Dirty Duck here (sometimes 100%) it keeps it interesting.
As long as comments are worth replying to and not just one-liner insults. Thanks to everyone for their input. Sometimes the comment section is more interesting than the actual “news story.”
D.D. – Even if we don’t agree about Sammy we usually agree about some shit like how awesome early VH was or a soundtrack or a movie like The Monster Squad. LOL. That’s the third time I’ve mentioned that movie. Geez. Somebody might go look that up and go “What?” lol.
February 11th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Kayser…I’m in Wenatchee. Maybe we’ll have that beer sometime!
February 11th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Hell, DOA, wish I’d known this sooner. For the last several months it seems like I’ve been going back and forth to Wenatchee a lot for my job although that’s wound down now. I damn near became a regular at McGlinn’s.
February 11th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
With all the Sam/Dave back and forth on this site, I found it interesting on a recent visit to Cabo Wabo in Las Vegas for dinner with some friends/business contacts that they play a wind range of rock as backround music. Most of the VH songs have Sam on vocals (i.e. Cabo Wabo, Summer Nights) as expected. But they also played You Really Got Me Now. It was nice to hear it, and the props and respect that go along with it, to the original lineup at a place owned and operated by Sam. For what it’s worth…
February 11th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Great posts!
February 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
d.o.a. , kayser. small world. my sister lived in wanatchee and i think she even cheated on her husband there with the beer guy. years ago that is. i have family in tri-cities.
February 12th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Well…..I did a lot of reading of posts on this thread before I decided to respond. It is true. We are ALL huge fans of all forms of VH…..period. I get that and respect many here believe it or not. It’s just very hard being a classic vh fan at times cause I dont feel as though im on the same wavelegnth as many here. I’m not going to rehash everything all over again I’m just making a statement. I think panama red is a cool cat but then I read that he disagrees with me %100 percent of the time. Whats up with that man? Are you kidding me? Sure I drive off into the hay with my opinions at times but a lot of what I write has some history involved no? I mean I’ve been a fan since i was 10 years old. I’m 35 now. That must have some merrit of my knowledge of the band. But it is what it is around here. A bunch of frustrated opinionated cats including me. I’m proud to wave the classic vh flag high cause if it wasnt for THAT band there wouldnt be many of the bands we listen to and there would be NO vh with sam thats for damn sure. Love me hate me find me attractive call me a rocker call me a classic snob call me opinionated. But never never tell me that I’m a dave fan not a vh fan. That’s when the fur rises and all you’ll here is grrrrrrr. I take CLASSIC VH VERY seriously and have and always will be a fan of eddie, dave, alex and mike. Case closed.
As far as sammy standing next to emerll being weird…well it is. It’s also weird with him hanging with carrot top and whoppie goldberg. Just my opinion, but it’s odd to me.
“Eat Em’ And Smile” has been mentioned on rock tv specials and especially his EP (Crazy for the heat) which of course many of you cant stand. Those two alone are still remembered and especially the stellar video’s. It doesnt bother me at all that dave’s albums werent huge sellers as his career progresed. He never jumped on any bandwagons and he did it for the love of the music. Versatile and ahead of time with a lot of his ideas, he will always be remembered as an orginal. So to those out there with your half assed remarks and jabs: Winners come and go fella’s….LEGENDS are FOREVER.
February 12th, 2010 at 7:30 am
PS) Tony:
Dont feel bad for stating your opinion on the “Best of both worlds tracks”….
I’ll say it again for you: THEY SUCKED!
Even my friends that are hagar fans hated those tracks.
They are without a doubt, mindless and effortless tracks that were rushed. Sam wrote the lyrics on a plane right?
Must have been a lot of turbulance.
February 12th, 2010 at 7:44 am
slam-dunk duck!
February 12th, 2010 at 8:25 am
hey duck, i;m not trying to be a jerk here but there were a couple of times when i saw dlr on award shows where i think he really embarrassed himself and vh so if you think about it sam standing with emeril who is a cool guy in my opinion isn’t so weird. i agree legends are for ever but sometime how you go out can tarnish your rep. i will also agree with you that what dave did was ahead of his time but if you see by the comments on this sight MOST people here REALLY like sammy and to give him anything but respect whether you like him or not is wrong because what he has done is not a matter of opinion but fact and i can assure you his peers also think so. all he is doing is what all us fans want fron vh. not only that but in my opinion if phillster is agreeing with you that can’t be good because he is a hater.
February 12th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Diry Duck – Dude, I definitely didn’t mean I disagree with you 100% of the time. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I meant sometimes I disagree 100% of a certain statement you make from time to time. But not 100% of everything you say. That’s why I mentioned that we agree on some things (like classic VH) which is cool, even if sometimes we disagree 100% about a specific opinion relating to Sammy Hagar or whatever but not everything. It’s all good Duck. You probably had a hard time deciphering what I was saying because I took 20,000 words to say it. LOL.
And Everybody who reads the comments knows you are a hardcore classic VH fan and it is appreciated and respected by me and probably everyone else here.
Also Duck, I’m a huge classic VH fan and also a fan of some of Dave’s solo stuff. I think “Eat ‘em and Smile” was a really good/fun album. I also like his EP “Crazy From the Heat”. I even like “Coconut Grove.”
I like how Dave did his own thing and was always fearless about it. He had visions about music and he acted on them, and did it his way. Like that Frank Sinatra song. Dave will always be the ultimate frontman. Maybe I don’t spend enough time talking about how awesome I thought Dave was because I’m usually defending Sammy. But I honestly appreciate both Hagar and Roth.
Roth is a legend! Bottom line. No debate, argument, or anything will change that fact.
February 12th, 2010 at 10:14 am
51….how small would the world be if I was a beer guy? LOL
February 12th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Panama Red:
You did nothing wrong brother. I owe you an apology. I’ve read so many posts this morning that I totally misread yours. I love to read so the length never bothers me….it’s trying to retain everything I’ve read. So in the future I will read more carefully before jumpin’ the gun!
So….”Monster Squad”….2 disc special edition…just got picked it up last week. It’s still a very cool film. Not as good as “Night of the creeps” (Tom Atkins rocks! “Thrill me!”) but has aged pretty well. I was 12 years old when I saw that in the theaters. Did you watch the 2nd disc? Special features? I got very upset when I heard that “fat kid” died in real life. Very sad. Not gonna lie man….when I heard that I had to shut it off and take a breather. It really affected me for some reason. Eiether way it’s a fun film with some great monster references. “Stephen King Rules”
February 12th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Let me see if I got this right: Duck was asked why he thought one’s mans hobby was “weird,” and his answer was “because.” That’s profound, man!
I do have to agree on the songs from BoBW. Not exactly what I’d expect from that collaboration.
February 12th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Herb…..your name says it all.
Move on…
February 12th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
51…
I see where you’re coming from. There were a few times when DLR was on howard stern and I cringed here and there.
When you’re right…you’re right!
February 12th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Dirty Duck – It’s cool man about the mis-understanding. I’ve misread people’s posts before too and I sometimes have a difficult time understanding what someone is trying to say here. That’s why I try to write clearly but I also usually ramble too so, I understand dude.
Yeah, I’ve watched all the special features to the Monster Squad DVD.(fourth mention of that movie by me, by the way) I should end every one of my posts now with the words “Monster Squad” just for the hell of it.
I was really shocked when they said that actor died.(I can’t remember his name right now) I can’t believe healthy normal young adults die of pneumonia. That’s just crazy to me. That is really sad and shitty. Anyway, I thought the interviews and extras were really cool and interesting. I heard they had a special anniversary/reunion screening of it in Austin a few years ago with the castmates and everything. That would have been cool to go to.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen “Night of the Creeps” though. Okay I’ll shut up now. Afterall this is a Van Halen fan site, not a monster movie site.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Duck are you still in grammar school?
Answers questions with “because” and when called on the carpet about it, attempts some lame jab at my name? What’s next? No invitation to this weekends sleep over?
What a tool.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Hey Dooley…..I noticed the same thing down in Cabo last October. Just before the band came out for one of the nights they were playing all kinds of stuff inside the bar: Toby Keith, AC/DC, Kenny Chesney and original V.H! It was an eyebrow raiser at the time, but I had forgotten about it until you mentioned it.
February 12th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I vote we keep this the longest on-going thread the VH News desk has ever seen… there has been some really interesting discussions so far. Let me start off by acknowledging some of the contributors:
• 51 YR OLD — Keep on rockin it, old man! Much respect.
• DOOLEY — How was the food at the Vegas cabo?
• PETE — Next Van Halen concert on the west coast. We’ll have a giant tail gate party and maybe Phillster and Andym will duke it out. Taking all bets.
• PHILLSTER — “Slam Dunk”, that DLR cd was probably my favorite Roth cd… yet sold the worst. (?) wtf, America?
• KAYSER — You’re an articulate, passionate dude. Loved the step father analogy. But liked my ‘bong resin’ metaphor better. (kidding)
• DOA — Agreed. Sammy’s passionate about food / tequila / beaches / music / pussy. Makes sense he’s spent his life pursuing all of those beautiful yet hedonistic desires. I am the same way but I’m more of a beer man.
• PANAMA RED — Much respect bro. More of a ‘nod’ then a dis I assure you. “Eagles Fly” at the 0U812 concert I was at; they performed the same version you spoke about — incredible.
• DIRTY DUCK — We’re the exact same age, man. Spooky. I remember when they released “Women & Children First” and “Fair Warning” on a double sided tape cause they weren’t selling well. I bought them and barely listened to it… Now they’re ranked up there with my favorites. I remember when Dave quit; my brother and I wrote a bunch of fan mail to Eddie pleading for the band not to break up. (lot of good that did). I LOVED eat ‘em and smile too! I remember I painted my face like the album cover for a Halloween party. LmAo. Thing is, I also bought the 5150 album and loved the next incarnation of Van Halen as well. Yeah, I respect the Classic Van Halen flag that you fly. I treasure *ALL* Van Halen’s music. [With the exception of VH3 -- still can't get over Gary's singing... who knows, maybe over time I can start to appreciate that as well? I will say, that mo-fo sings "Mean Streets" like nobodies business.]
• DIAMOND DEAN — I’m calling you out, man! I love everyone’s opinions which is why I keep coming back here… standing on the fence between the Hagar & Roth camp and occasionally hurling a stone at each side. I’m like the kid that pokes a hornet’s nest with a twig just to have fun. TELL ME DUDE, how the HELL can you think 5150 is arguably the best album, and 0U812 was garbage?! Really man… REALLY!? I guess one man’s Molson is another man’s vinegar, so I won’t argue about taste. My two cents follows:
5150 — I’ll agree that the album rocked. Some people complained it was too ‘synthy’ — but look at the time frame. Mid/late 80′s was a keyboard era. Ed had the chance to explore more on the synth stuff which started on the 1984 album. Many people say that the Van Halen sound changed with a swift kick when they switched from Roth to Hagar, but listen to the subtleties between songs like “I’ll wait” and “Jump” and carry that heavy melodic tone with synth melody right into songs like “Dreams” and “Why Can’t this be Love”. Not a change but a TRANSITION — a sign of the times and musical climate. My BIGGEST beef with the 5150 album is Ed’s stupid synth drums that he added in his rack that gave all the beats that god-awful 80′esque laser gun sound. Listen to the drums on that album. THAT (IMO) is the only deterring fact. Other than that, great songs, great album period.
OU812 — Ed toned down the synth drum. We got some bluesy tunes like “Finish What ya Started” raw and funky. “When it’s Love” — best ‘Power Ballad’ EVER written, (IMO). “Black & Blue” — I took it as a double entendre about sex and fighting. Kick ass jam I thought. You got some killer songs like “AFU” and “Source of Infection” — one song that was a little cheesey was “Feels so Good”, but hey, the guitar solo was great and damn, at least the brothers got the chance to show some range. Good for them. I personally can’t believe you didn’t catch the depth in “Mine all Mine” — about inner strength over religious dogma and social morality. WOW, missed that did ya? really, Deano? — REALLY?
Man, it’s kinda funny — I hear dudes saying some crazy stuff on here. “Hagar killed Van Halen” LmFaO.
I hear some people’s point… “they went from Ain’t talkin bout love, to that’s all they wanna fucking talk about is Love.” Well shit, what greater force is there in the universe that get’s us all pumped up, but LOVE. It’s a pretty natural theme for a song I suppose. It’s LOVE for the greatest rock band ever that keeps me listening to the same damn 14 cds every fucking day. (hopefully 15 before the end of the year)
You wanna rag on Sam’s fashion sense? REALLY? — Man, I SEEN Roth & Ed wearing some peculiar shit too. I know at the 2004 concert Sam was wearing yellow pants and a red shirt. He looked like Ronald McDonald on crack. But the dude still had the chops. Ed had his hair up like a samurai and wore combat pants. Point is I don’t GIVE A RATS ASS WHAT A ROCK STAR WEARS. I only care how they play. And unfortunately Ed swaggered around on stage like a wind up toy. Too much red wine that night.
But Ed was smokin’ the next time I saw him.
I’m done rehashing the “Sammy didn’t play enough classics” debate. He DID dude. ’nuff said.
And I can only agree about the awesomeness of Roth.
Well, here’s my contribution to this bloated thread.
As always, the diverse opinions are appreciated and welcome.
I hope this string will continue! At least until we get a new album!
February 12th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Tony ,
Great reply , thank you 4 responding, its great to hear an educated opinion.
5150
well its my fave cd of all time it has my alltime fave
song wctbl, its production is great , theres not a bad song on it , but there is times when i think Roth wld of done it better , like 5150 the song i think hagar let it down . a strange thing happened , i listened to 1984 n 5150 n we all prefered 1984 . i really struggle with ou812 , am i the odd one out???
ou812
the production is the worst on any album ive heard , u put that cd on in the car it sound terrible . the mighty vh had to rely on ballads , mine all mine might be a deep subject but i find hagars lyrics shallow , basic with absolutely no wit , the complete opposite to roth who i think is brilliant.BLACK N BLUE was released as the first single!!! its lyrics r abysmal , the difference between roth n hager , roth wld of made this a hit , or at least a great song , like drop dead legs, dirty movies etc . appolitical blues , arguably the worst vh song ever , yes worse then how many say i!!! imo AFU what a great song! ruined by hagars lyrics . Source of infection hagars HOT 4 TEACHER , but wld u put it in the same class?? i luv sucker in a 3 piece , with good prduction it wld of been a classic like panama
Just a few other points people have been discussing.
DLR BAND cd
brilliant luv it!!!! , 2 things let it down , the raw production n daves voice was stretching it , but great up there with vhs best
why does no one like skyscraper??? luv the cd think its produced well , it had a genuine hit ( unlike vh ever since) its far better then ou812 imo
hagar or anthony shd never wear tight pants at any stage!!! short stubby men never!! the others ld pull it off , wolfgang no!
Once again thank you , its a great debate n i hope in continues
DD
February 13th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
D.O.A.: Glad you noticed that too. Sam deserves a “nod” for making sure the original lineup of VH is recognized at his place, for sure.
Tony: The food at the Vegas Cabo Wabo is really nothing special. But the drinks and atmosphere are great. I’d go again for drinks only or maybe lunch, but not dinner.
February 13th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Wow man, I thought this thread was about to finally die. Way to add fuel to the almost burned out fire Tony. This has been one of the most interesting ones so far for sure, with great posts.
I forgot, I meant to acknowledge jc’s post back on Feb.9. It made me smile, that was good jc.
I’ll contribute to keep this goin too. Why not? It’s kind of fun. I don’t think I could ever run out of stuff to talk about when it comes to bands I love.
Tony I dug what you said to D.O.A. about Sammy. But if you haven’t tried Cabo Wabo tequila Dude I highly suggest it. It’s honestly one of the best tequilas on the market. I’m not just saying that because I’m a fan of Hagar’s. It’s right up there with Patron. (I actually prefer it over Patron) I’ve saved all of my Cabo bottles throughout the years and I’m starting to run out of storage space. Ha! The design on the original bottle almost looks homemade compared to the sophisticated look now, but it was always awesome. Hey man, If you’re gonna do shots I would spring for the Anjeo. It’s so unbelievably good, so smooth and almost sweet even, and the smell…..oh man, so good. If you’re just gonna make margarita’s and mixed drinks I would go with the less expensive and harsher Blanco or the middle aged hardy Reposado. My days of drinking cheap tequila are over man. I had one to many ungodly hangovers. The prices of premium quality tequila have gone up so much over the years but I still indulge myself sometimes. There’s only about two shots worth left in my bottle of anjeo. Sucks.
Oh, and what you said to Dirty Duck about the double-sided cassette tapes. Man, I totally forgot about those. It’s so funny, I remember now coming across that in a music store and going “Oh shit, two Van Halen albums for the price of one, Awesome!”
I felt so lucky. LOL. That tape and all the other ones I bought right after I saw VH for the first time bit the dust a loooong time ago. I wore those fuckers out! Wow, remember not having C.D.’s and having to worry about your tapes being eaten by your crappy tape player. Ha ha, I do.
It’s hard to think they were having low sales of those albums back then and had to double ‘em up like that, but I guess their popularity had died down some.
Like Dooley said, I think it’s pretty cool how they play early VH with Roth leading the helm at the Cabo Wabo cantinas. Especially since Dave was personally kind of a prick to Sammy during the Sam and Dave tour. Sammy tried to be cool to him and give the fans a once in a lifetime event by getting Dave to come out on stage with him and Mike, but Dave wouldn’t ever answer his dressing room door.(That would have been so awesome to me.) Sammy could have played guitar, Mike on bass, and Dave singing classic VH songs. But instead Dave just kinda talked shit about Sammy during the tour and would say shit like “There’s Sammy with a bottle of tequila in one hand and his dick in the other.” And “Sammy likes to throw a party. I AM the Party.” I have to admit that last quote is pretty cool though. Classic ego-maniacal Dave. I’m glad Sammy can swallow his pride and tuck in his ego enough to play classic VH at his cantina’s.
Hey Tony you mentioned how bad the guys in VH have dressed over the years. (Which I know is kind of unfair, because I’m sure we’ve all looked pretty dumb at one time or another, we just weren’t in the spotlight like they have been) Do you remember what everyone was wearing when Dave shocked everyone at the MTV awards in ‘96, I think. Eddie was wearing Over-alls with no shirt underneath. But Dave was probably the worst. His hair looked weird, almost like a comb-over. And his shirt, oh man he was dressed like a greaseball gweedo from a 70′s disco with most of the buttons left open. And I remember it looked like the belt he had on was worn on the Outside of the belt loops. Weird. And remember years before when Sammy (I think at the grammy’s, can’t remember what year) wore that checker-pattern suit. Crazy. I actually thought that suit was pretty cool back then. Anyway yeah all the guys in VH have dressed weird. I don’t dig Sammy’s bright red and yellow combos he puts together, but whatever that’s him. And those yellow tights he used to wear. And remember the distorted checker pattern tights he wore, in the group photo of VH during the “Right Here Right Now” tour. I remember I had that VH concert shirt on back when I was in school and this pretty hot, slutty skinny little blonde girl wearing a mini-skirt came up to me and said “Those pants are sexy.” referring to Sammy’s on my shirt. Later in a class I had with her we were sitting across from each other at this big table and she gave me this look and then opened her legs flashing me, (like Sharon Stone style in “Basic Instinct”) and this chick didn’t have any panties on! That wasn’t the worst day at school I ever had. LOL.
Remember Eddie’s homeless looking rag-clothes he wore when he was drunk at NAMM years ago, that was a little weird. (I don’t really care how Eddie or anybody dresses, just trying to help keep this thread going for the hell of it.) But the worst was those huge pink M.C. hammer pants he wore back in the day. I actually have some good original photos of him back then wearing those, playing his steinberger. (I’m sure in retrospect I looked pretty lame back then to.) And during the Cherone tour, Mike would wear shorts and big combat boots, which I didn’t think looked bad if he would’ve shaved his hair real short. I love Mikey but what’s up with rockin the mullet for 30 years. I thought that green military jumpsuit Mike wore in the early eighties was cool.
Tony, about Cherone and his rendition of “Mean Street” Not Bad, he sang it with some ferocity. I was glad to hear more of the classics when I saw them with Cherone. I never liked Gary very much and still think he’s a huge piece of cheese, but he actually wasn’t as bad with VH as I was expecting him to be. I got to hear more Roth era songs from Eddie that I was craving to hear for a long time which was really cool, but to me Gary didn’t really feel like he was really a VH band member. Like, it’s kinda hard to explain, but it almost felt like he had won a contest to front Van Halen for a while or something. I don’t know, it just didn’t feel like a natural fit and that he was trying real hard to fit in but it just wasn’t going over real well or something. That’s Just how I personally felt. Maybe I didn’t have time to get used to him with VH, plus I just didn’t think he was a good choice to replace Hagar. Too cheesy and un-worthy. (I remember Gary saying he wasn’t really even a fan of Van Halen before he joined. WHAT?!!) Maybe the way I feel about Gary is the exact way Sammy-haters feel. Did I just have a revelation? Ha ha. Uh-oh I think I just opened the door for more Sammy hate. (It was unintentional, I’ve heard enough of that to last me the rest of my life.)
Also Tony I don’t know if you or anyone else here noticed (or maybe Gary was corrected at a certain point by someone) but both times I heard him sing “Mean Street”, one of the mother fucking Baddest Ass songs in history, he flubbed the lyrics. Some people would probably consider it a small trivial technicality but it really grated on my nerves.
When he sang the part like this:
“…See, a gun is real easy in this desperate part of town.
Turns you from hunter into hunted, go and hunt somebody down.”
Which doesn’t really make sense, if he would’ve paid attention and understood what he was supposed to be singing about he would’ve realized that.
It’s supposed to be:
“Turns you from hunted into hunter, go and hunt somebody down.”
NOT “…hunter into hunted…”
Anyway, like I said some people might say “c’mon man give me a break.” but my feelings were that – if you were given the unbelievable privilege, honor and once in a lifetime opportunity to front VAN HALEN you should understand the songs you’re singing and make sure you had the lyrics right!
Anyway, Damn Tony I can’t believe you induced another rant out of me with your last post.
I guess I can’t help myself. It’s cool shootin the shit every once in a while with other hardcore VH fans. Hey talkin ‘bout “Mean Street” made me put Fair Warning on. I’ve listened to it probably about a zillion times in my life, and it never ceases to fucking amaze me. It’s literally a perfect album. An honest to goodness MASTERPIECE! Amazing, just amazing.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Panama Red,
Yeah Gary was a good’un for fluffing lyrics. As much as I like VH3, some of the live stuff was let down by his terrible memory. Its a shame he couldn’t pull a Roth and just be “Hey New York, I just forgot the fuckin’ words!”. I liked his rendition of Romeo Delight but when he did Mean Street and Fire in the Hole, he made some mistakes (especially the part before the chorus, he said the “Your iron lung’s a bag of wind” part twice in the Sydney bootleg I had).
But hey ho, all in the past. I’m pretty sure I’ve written essays shorter than that post man! But nice to keep the topic going. This has been a good one.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:58 am
another good post panama red, whether you like dlr or sam we all have to remember it is rock and roll and it should help or let us escape the real world once in a while. if a person doesn’t like one or the other versions of vh thats cool just don’t be a hater. and i guess i just don’t get the lyrics thing because i think what attracts me to a song is the music first and we all know who is responsible for that and all i can say is thanks EDDIE.
February 14th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Hell yeah, RED — Thanks for keeping the thread going.
I don’t think I could ever get sick of discussing Van Halen… pretty pathetic I don’t have something better to do on a Sunday night.
DEAN — thanks for taking my 2cents with class. I do respect your opinions as well. Obviously when I was bitching about the synthesized drums on the 5150 album, I meant ‘AL’ not Ed. Funny; sometimes I forget they’re 2 different people. Alex seems to just fade into the background and echo whatever mood that Eddie is conveying at the time. A shame sometimes because I think he’s a little more grounded and level-headed. Might’ve kept Eddie from making a mistake or 2 if he spoke up more. (of course, who knows what happens behind closed doors).
DLR cd: good shit! Sounded more like Van Halen then VH3 did at the time. SO-O-O-O underrated that cd was. Favorite song, “Lose the Dress (keep the shoes)” — it sounds simplistic but you gotta read between the lines. DEEP shit.
I hear MANY people say that they hated the Balance cd but I thought they really found their groove on that one. It sounded tight and raw, songs like “Don’t tell Me…” and “Feelings” — I loved that song especially; underrated (IMO). I also loved their single “Humans Being” was a kick-ass jam.
But I really was blown away by “Me Wise Magic” and “Can’t get This Stuff No More”. Oh man, I always imagine what could’ve been if Ed could have just accepted Roth for who he is. Yeah, he acts like an egomaniacal prick sometimes. But shit, that’s Roth.
RED — agreed with 99.9% of your response. I too, wish Dave would’ve taken Sam up on his offer to join him on stage. I was at a concert (in PA I think) and Mike was with Sammy and I hoped that DLR would’ve come out for at least one song. Too bad. And yeah, Sammy always had respect for Roth, but that was DEFINITELY NOT a 2 way street.
That story about ‘Miss Mini-skirt’ sounded pretty good to me. WORST day of school you say!?!? Dude, speaking of worst things, if the worst thing in the world happens, and we NEVER get any new VH music… someday I’ll start listening to the VH3 album and appreciating it more. (well… maybe). Cherone sang the classics pretty good. I remember he lost his voice at a concert (because he always strained his voice trying to sound like Sammy) anyhoo, he couldn’t finish the song he was on. The crowd started chanting, “WE WANT DAVE!” — and later in an interview, Gary Cherone’s brother said he was in the crowd and was chanting the same thing! LmAo. Funny shit. And like you were saying about the many interesting outfits they have worn throughout the years… man, when they came out at the MTV award show that year, I was just happy to see Dave out on stage again. But damn, Dave did look kinda weird. You said once before RED, how the responses are sometimes more entertaining than the story. The comments on this string are a lot of fun.
Yeah, DOA and HERB were both saying about Sammy, how the guy is just doing what he loves. So more power to him. I can’t stomach tequila though.
I suppose that a forum or blog would be a better place for all this back and forth chatty-ness. But the few VH forums I found I wasn’t impressed by.
Hope we get some more posts on this undying thread.
RED — the .1% I can’t agree with — “Monster Squad”. REALLY? That was corny shit (IMO). BUT, did you see the movie “Zombie Land”?! GOOD STUFF! And great soundtrack. Van Halen got some nice mentions.
God Bless all ya Van Halen fans!
February 15th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Ducky I think your the PUTZ Mr. “thinks he’s a Van Halen expert”??
Lat time I saw any PR stuff written Sammy was the last frontman to record for Van Halen, amd that was in 2005 !!!!
Get your facts straight.
And, I will probably get a hug, unlike you.
February 15th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Tony I never heard that about Gary’s brother. That’s really pretty funny if you think about it.
Yeah, I could see someone getting aggravated by the back and forth posts by me and some other regulars here but it’s only because we are jonesing so hard for new Van Halen material so we discuss anything we can sometimes to keep are interests peaked, ya know? It’s good to talk about something VH related while we eternally wait for new Van Halen stuff. If anyone here can recommend a good VH chatroom I would go check it out when I’m in the mood to talk VH instead of posting such long comments here. I’ve looked a couple of times, couldn’t find a good one. Although, I have already gotten used to some of the personalities here. If I went somewhere else there would be a whole new set of Sammy haters to deal with, ha ha.
Tony you mentioned “Mine All Mine” (my fav song from OU812) and how great that song was. I think lyrically it was very interesting and well written and also musically impressive. A great meaningful song to me. I love the lyrics, the drums, awesome guitar playing as always. So many people bitch about OU812. Yes the production was kind of screwed up, like the lack of bass, but it’s still a great album with great songs. I think I remember an interview with VH and they were talking about re-recording that album, but I think it was Sammy who said he would rather look forward and spend time working on making a new album instead. It seems a little weird to have to re-record that album anyway. Couldn’t they just re-mix it and re-master it?
Just throwing in my two cents about stuff being talked about in recent posts.
I don’t like the DLR Band C.D. as much as some of ya’ll. But I really love the song “Black Sand” from that album. That is such a cool, mellow surf song to listen to.
Tony – about the sexy, somewhat slutty little blonde chick. I said it “wasn’t” the worst day in school. I was being stupidly sarcastic. And I didn’t act on that chicks “subtle flirtations” (being sarcastic again) because I had my own little blonde girlfriend at the time that I was infatuated with (who wasn’t quite slutty enough, heh heh) So unfortunately I don’t have a good story to go along with that girl. But I enjoyed the view she offered me. Ha!
Before I go, I know “The Monster Squad” has come up now 5 times, I swear I’m not obsessed with talking about it. Other people keep bringing it up too, I’ve only watched my DVD once since I bought it about a year ago. But when I was a kid I was really into monsters and monster movies. I was kind of a weird kid. I think I had the same childhood as Rob Zombie. Anyway, I liked that movie when I was a kid because it incorporated all of the Universal studio classic Monsters. Of course it was kind of “corny” and far-fetched. But it was a fantasy-type fictional movie. I’m sure everyone has a few movies they still like and watch from their childhood for nostalgic reasons. I still enjoy that movie. It’s kind of one of those “cult classics” to me. It’s not the kind of movie that would win an Oscar but it’s just silly fun. I like it.
Haven’t seen “Zombie Land” yet. But I’m gonna.
It’s been fun shootin the shit with all ya’ll. Too bad about the tequila thing and your stomach Tony. I should start calling you “No Mas, Tony”. Later on man.
Thanks to everyone for their interesting comments in lieu of new VH news. Like I said, sometimes it’s more entertaining reading the comments here than the actual news. Hearing someone’s take on a VH song or personal experience with VH can be interesting and is better to hear than what’s coming from the Van Halen camp….. “crickets chirping”
I haven’t run out of hope yet, but it’s fun to fill the void with other VH fans.
Cheers (except Tony-“No Mas”) j/k
February 16th, 2010 at 10:47 am
just went out and bought the chickenfoot cd and might i say its well worth the money, this cd kicks ass!
February 16th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
RED: Okay, now I get it. What a difference the word, “WASN’T” can make in a sentence. And I bet you’re kicking yourself for the missed opportunity with that “Sexy Little Thing”. LmAo.
I should stop with all this babble… but I really, have nothing better to do. (Sad to say.)
‘DLR band’ cd: Black Sand WAS a trippy little jam. I love every song on that cd except for “Slam Dunk” for some reason. (The only song they played on the radio — go figure) I liked almost all of Dave’s solo stuff — even “Filthy Little Mouth” (which most don’t care for). The only album I didn’t think much of was “Sky Scraper”… something about the way the tried to throw some dance like beats in with Vai’s guitar; went together like cool aid and battery acid. (come to think of it… cool aid contains battery acid, right?)
Now, go rent yourself a copy of “Zombie Land”!… nothing like zombies getting their heads blown off while “Everybody Wants Some” plays in the background. über cool
Yay for DON. Someone else gets “kicked by the ‘foot”. HAH!, watch… that’ll be the name of their next album. I demand 5% royalties, Satch!
More mindless babble from “No Mas Tony”.
Please DLR, spill some beans on the Van Halen saga already. I’m bored.
February 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
2nd album already,when is VH coming out with a new one?
April 20th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
K…
1. Chickenfoot…2nd cd? HELL YEA
2. Chickenfoot DVD? ABOUT DAMN TIME
3. I must have gotten a bad copy of Satch’s paris dvd… because the menu option that said “interview” didnt even work… that shit irritates me to no end… i bet it was good.
4. See items 1 & 2