Chickenfoot update: 2nd album news, live DVD news & more

February 7, 2010 147 Comments

best_new_talent Here’s a five-part Chickenfoot update as of February 7th:

1) READER’s POLL WINNERS:
Chickenfoot won “Best New Talent” in the 16th annual Guitar World Reader’s Poll Results, published in the March 2010 issue.

2) NEW ALBUM UPDATE:
Classic Rock magazine got an update from chickenfoot’s manager, who dispelled a silly rumor and told them Chickenfoot will start recording their second album in April:

Rumour Of The Week: Hagar To Join Aerosmith
gbarton / News / 05/02/2010 12:50pm

Is Sammy Hagar going to replace Steven Tyler as Aerosmith’s frontman?

Earlier this week Classic Rock heard the news that the Chickenfoot (and former Montrose/Van Halen) singer had agreed to sing with the Boston band on a forthcoming world tour.

A source told us:

“The idea is for Sammy and Aerosmith to rake in big bucks on the road while leaving Steven Tyler to sort out his problems. Then Tyler would return to the band in a couple of years’ time.”

Hagar, we reckon, is one of the few singers who could handle Tyler’s scat singing style and idiosyncratic lyrics. So the story made a strange kind of sense.

We contacted Hagar’s manager, John Carter, and told him we had it on good authority that Sammy was joining Aerosmith.

Carter reponded: “Good authority must mean The Enquirer because his Led Zep gig conflicts with the Aerosmith job.

“Seriously, Sam is very happy to be going into the studio with Chickenfoot to start the second album in April.”

The Aerosmith camp declined to comment.

3) LIVE DVD UPDATE:
Joe Satriani was interviewed at the VOX booth during the NAMM 2010 show and said that Chickenfoot’s upcoming DVD will be released in sometime in April and will contain at least one hour of really cool bonus features in addition to the live concert filmed in Tempe, Arizona last year.

4) MICHAEL ANTHONY VIDEO INTERVIEW with LICK LIBRARY at NAMM (click here)

5) MASHUP VIDEO:
‘Foot fan Curtis Lanclos created a mashup video using Chickenfoot’s song “Get It Up” and Larry Platt’s American Idol audition performance of “Pants on the Ground:

Check out the official CHICKENFOOT merchandise

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D.O.A.

Ta Da!
kayser sozay

DOA – thanks. not sure anything I write would shut down any idiotic rants and not sure I’d want it to anyway. This is fun. And imagine how boring the world would be if everyone thought alike.

Panama Red – thank you. and thank you for writing a post that made mine seem short. Kidding. But it was a great post. Very well put on individual tastes and the merits of Hagar’s solo stuff.
D.O.A.

True enough. I surely enjoy the divergent viewpoints, but sometimes it just becomes a silly mess.

There are rewards if you can handle the wade through the sludge. Exceptional posts are here, born from the Sam to Aerosmith fictional story.

I think what’s really great are nuggets of info that some of the contributors regularly drop. Things you otherwise may not have known.
Canes_fan5150

@ halenhagar

everything EVH and DLR touch turns multiplatinum and sometimes diamond
Matt from Australia

Them Crooked Vultures should have won that readers poll hands down. Is it just me or does Joe Satriani look like one of those guys off the classic Sesame Street skit “Fat Cat Sat Hat”? Check it out on youtube!
Panama Red

Kayser Soazy – Thanks. I know my post was ridiculously long-winded. But I think your last post about how you feel about Dave and Sammy and about some of the people’s criticisms of Hagar are biased and are not really honest feelings was spot-on. I think you hit the nail right on the fuckin head man. I’m not saying EVERYONE who dislikes Hagar has biased or unjust prejudice towards him (like you stated as well). I’m sure some people just don’t like his music or sound. But I have felt some people’s comments that I’ve listened to over the years about him are just that (biased, prejudiced, angry or resentful feelings) and they didn’t really ever give him a chance. I have been wanting to express those same exact sentiments that you stated in your post and get those same points across, but I just hadn’t figured out how to in the best way yet. Great analogies helping to describe your point. I feel the same way about Dave and Sammy fronting Van Halen. They were both a perfect fit for a while, in my opinion.
Great post Kayser, it’s refreshing to read someone’s comments like that. Honest, unbiased and sincere.
Tony

Yes, PANAMA RED (another wise, VHND guru) — Thanks for another heart-felt, albeit verbose, post. And I am just the kind of nerd that actually read the whole thing.

I love Roth AND Hagar. It really blows my mind that most people that love Roth hate Hagar and vise-versa. But I ain’t gonna rehash all that shit again.

I just wanted to say, regarding Sam’s lyrics; it’s not that I want something cryptic or so deep that I can’t follow — it’s mainly all the clichés and repeating themes that bug the shit out of me. Especially since I love the music over all. It’s like some of the songs on the CF cd… I’ll just be zoning out to the sound of Sam’s booming voice, who can scream and still every note known to man and Satch & Chad and of course Mike are all adding their talents and it’s like fucking rock&roll bliss — THEN, Sam sings “all down the drain” like ten times in a row (ending of course with a loud scream and the ‘BIG ROCK’ finish), then “future in the past” then “turning left” and I’m like damn, I know I’m being hypocritical — but I would just like to see some more originality in the song writing. I just hope that he tries to mix it up more on the next cd.

I too, was hard on the 3 new songs for Best of Both Worlds. I believe I said they “SUCKED” before. Well, they probably didn’t suck. I heard he wrote them on the plane ride from Cabo and sang them in one afternoon in one take. Like you said before, maybe he was still stuck in the Waborita state of mind and couldn’t get in the zone of what Ed was composing (which was a little spotty).

And thanks, RED for your top picks of Sammy’s best stuff. I have 3 of his solo cd’s in my collection and will give those all another listen. I think that “I’ve done Everything for You”, “Red” and “55″ are all rock anthems and definitely had an impact on me. I remembered seeing him play the acoustic version of “Eagles Fly” live many times in concerts. I always thought that was an underrated song too.

So anyway, even though I bust on SOME of his lyrics once in awhile… It’s mainly that ‘I FEEL’ he can do better and have heard him do so time & again.
http://myspace.com/timkarplusband t1m

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the top 2 bands in the “BEST NEW TALENT” category are made up of veteran rockers who have the better parts of their careers behind them? It bothers me. Where is the new talent? I like Wolfmother alright, but what else is new in the rock scene?
Pete

YOU GUYS ROCK…you’re all so crazy and passionate about this whacky band…it would be very cool to sit around and have a few beers with you all and debate this and that till the early morning hours…no doubt I’d learn a thing or two since I usually do from the banter on here!

I’m raising one for y’all right now…
http://vhnd.com 51 yr old fan

panama red, well said. if you haven’t done so already i suggest you read a book titled, EDDIE VAN HALEN by dan hedges. eddie says 1 thing in there that to me says it all. if you like the song then its good. and one more thing he also said was that he writes all the music. check it out there is some good stuff in there.
Kayser Sozay

I love it. That’s what so great about this site and the regular cast of characters who post here. No matter how we think about VH with Roth, VH with Hagar, VH with Cherone, VH with nobody – and no matter whether we are critical of any member of the band or defend them no matter what, Pete’s absolutely correct. We’re all passionate about the band. Otherwise, why would we have any feelings about any of it? So cheers and thank you to you all. And you’re right Pete, it would be cool to debate these things in person over beverages. If any of you regulars find yourselves in Seattle, let me know. Beers on me.
ringostore

Its all a Dutch thing!
DiamondDean

panama red, respect
DiamondDean

First as a VH fan i luv all eras

We shd all be greatful for the music they have givin us , even though over the last few yrs its been pretty sparse( to say the least).

SAMMY HAGAR
His contribution to the VH legacy is amazing . As a singer he is up there with the best . 5150 is arguably there best album , everything about it is perfect . LWOAN is a terrific video , from the start of THERES ONLY ONLY WAY TO ROCK to ROCK N ROLL , brilliant! Where hagar started to go wrong was not play the old VH CLASSICS , which was amazingly selfish , but he wld sing rock n roll , superstitious, wild thing and addicted to love on that tour instead of classic vh????? surely runnin with the devil , mean streets etc wld of been a better choice dont ya think??? then it went rock bottom with ou812 which i consider there worst album 4 far too many reasons. THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN had to rely on ballads 4 hits and became more journey then led zep , . The monsters or rock was a terrible flop with many promotors losing money not to mention they even had metallica cldnt save them, lots of fans were leaving b4 van halen hit the stage. Sammy wearin banana tight pants looked silly .lyrically hagar is extremely avg , his moon june is very predictable n doesnt add anything to the music , even serious subjects , seventh seal or mine all mine , there very shallow without no wit at all.

Van halen never really toured the “world” did they ??? america with a couple little stops isnt a world tour is it now??? this is where bands like BON JOVI, METALLICA even NICKELBACK have become far more popular and respected

DAVID LEE ROTH
As a frontman there has been no better , there is no better entertainer . His voice imo is the best , as a singer he is good not great .From the get go he made VH a step up from everybody else , his confidence lifted the whole band to another level ( which i think still continues today). HE made the VAN HALEN mighty in the early 80s tthey were the greatest band in the world His videos r to this day brilliant n classic , how often do u hear asking bout the hot 4 teacher video? His image has been copied but never bettered . Lyrics r brilliant , he is a genius, there witty , cultured n simple , his vocal style is unique n is very hard to copy unlike hagar , who anyone with a scream can sound like . compare DROP DEAD LEGSas opposed to BLACK N BLUE you see what i mean

More to come about the rest later
Pete

KAYSER – right on brother…and Seattle is a beautiful city.
Panama Red

51 yr old fan – No, I don’t think I’ve read that. Thanks for the recommendation.
I read “Crazy from the Heat” years ago though. Can’t remember much about it except that I though it was pretty entertaining. Dave has lived a interesting life. I think I remember that I just wished it contained more VH info. But It was a DLR book not a VH book.
I’ll go buy and read Sammy’s autobiography when and if it’s ever finished too.
I bet guys like Dirty Duck will rush out and buy it at midnight when it first goes on sale. Kidding.

Tony – I’m impressed and also kind of feel sorry for anyone who read my entire post. I got your little nod / jab at me for the “FEEL” thing. I was just trying to convey the difference of having an opinion on a subject and the different affect that music has on us. But I won’t start up with all that crap again and bore anybody. You know what I’m saying anyway.
“Eagles Fly” has always been one of my fav Sammy solo songs, and “Give to Live” too. Except I don’t listen to them that much anymore though, cause I kinda burnt myself out on certain Sammy and VH songs.
I would love it when Sammy would play that song with Van Halen. Sometimes it would just be him and his acoustic guitar and it was a really cool vibe and brief change of pace at the shows. But what I thought was even cooler sometimes was when Sammy would play “Eagles Fly” and halfway through the song Alex would bust into the song and then the rest of the band would rock it out!

As much as I disagree with guys like Dirty Duck here (sometimes 100%) it keeps it interesting.
As long as comments are worth replying to and not just one-liner insults. Thanks to everyone for their input. Sometimes the comment section is more interesting than the actual “news story.”
D.D. – Even if we don’t agree about Sammy we usually agree about some shit like how awesome early VH was or a soundtrack or a movie like The Monster Squad. LOL. That’s the third time I’ve mentioned that movie. Geez. Somebody might go look that up and go “What?” lol.
D.O.A.

Kayser…I’m in Wenatchee. Maybe we’ll have that beer sometime!
kayser sozay

Hell, DOA, wish I’d known this sooner. For the last several months it seems like I’ve been going back and forth to Wenatchee a lot for my job although that’s wound down now. I damn near became a regular at McGlinn’s.
Dooley

With all the Sam/Dave back and forth on this site, I found it interesting on a recent visit to Cabo Wabo in Las Vegas for dinner with some friends/business contacts that they play a wind range of rock as backround music. Most of the VH songs have Sam on vocals (i.e. Cabo Wabo, Summer Nights) as expected. But they also played You Really Got Me Now. It was nice to hear it, and the props and respect that go along with it, to the original lineup at a place owned and operated by Sam. For what it’s worth…
Jeremy

Great posts!
http://vhnd.com 51 yr old fan

d.o.a. , kayser. small world. my sister lived in wanatchee and i think she even cheated on her husband there with the beer guy. years ago that is. i have family in tri-cities.
http://none Dirty Duck

Well…..I did a lot of reading of posts on this thread before I decided to respond. It is true. We are ALL huge fans of all forms of VH…..period. I get that and respect many here believe it or not. It’s just very hard being a classic vh fan at times cause I dont feel as though im on the same wavelegnth as many here. I’m not going to rehash everything all over again I’m just making a statement. I think panama red is a cool cat but then I read that he disagrees with me %100 percent of the time. Whats up with that man? Are you kidding me? Sure I drive off into the hay with my opinions at times but a lot of what I write has some history involved no? I mean I’ve been a fan since i was 10 years old. I’m 35 now. That must have some merrit of my knowledge of the band. But it is what it is around here. A bunch of frustrated opinionated cats including me. I’m proud to wave the classic vh flag high cause if it wasnt for THAT band there wouldnt be many of the bands we listen to and there would be NO vh with sam thats for damn sure. Love me hate me find me attractive call me a rocker call me a classic snob call me opinionated. But never never tell me that I’m a dave fan not a vh fan. That’s when the fur rises and all you’ll here is grrrrrrr. I take CLASSIC VH VERY seriously and have and always will be a fan of eddie, dave, alex and mike. Case closed.

As far as sammy standing next to emerll being weird…well it is. It’s also weird with him hanging with carrot top and whoppie goldberg. Just my opinion, but it’s odd to me.

“Eat Em’ And Smile” has been mentioned on rock tv specials and especially his EP (Crazy for the heat) which of course many of you cant stand. Those two alone are still remembered and especially the stellar video’s. It doesnt bother me at all that dave’s albums werent huge sellers as his career progresed. He never jumped on any bandwagons and he did it for the love of the music. Versatile and ahead of time with a lot of his ideas, he will always be remembered as an orginal. So to those out there with your half assed remarks and jabs: Winners come and go fella’s….LEGENDS are FOREVER.
http://none Dirty Duck

PS) Tony:

Dont feel bad for stating your opinion on the “Best of both worlds tracks”….

I’ll say it again for you: THEY SUCKED!
Even my friends that are hagar fans hated those tracks.
They are without a doubt, mindless and effortless tracks that were rushed. Sam wrote the lyrics on a plane right?
Must have been a lot of turbulance.
phillster

slam-dunk duck!
http://vhnd.com 51 yr old fan

hey duck, i;m not trying to be a jerk here but there were a couple of times when i saw dlr on award shows where i think he really embarrassed himself and vh so if you think about it sam standing with emeril who is a cool guy in my opinion isn’t so weird. i agree legends are for ever but sometime how you go out can tarnish your rep. i will also agree with you that what dave did was ahead of his time but if you see by the comments on this sight MOST people here REALLY like sammy and to give him anything but respect whether you like him or not is wrong because what he has done is not a matter of opinion but fact and i can assure you his peers also think so. all he is doing is what all us fans want fron vh. not only that but in my opinion if phillster is agreeing with you that can’t be good because he is a hater.
Panama Red

Diry Duck – Dude, I definitely didn’t mean I disagree with you 100% of the time. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I meant sometimes I disagree 100% of a certain statement you make from time to time. But not 100% of everything you say. That’s why I mentioned that we agree on some things (like classic VH) which is cool, even if sometimes we disagree 100% about a specific opinion relating to Sammy Hagar or whatever but not everything. It’s all good Duck. You probably had a hard time deciphering what I was saying because I took 20,000 words to say it. LOL.
And Everybody who reads the comments knows you are a hardcore classic VH fan and it is appreciated and respected by me and probably everyone else here.
Also Duck, I’m a huge classic VH fan and also a fan of some of Dave’s solo stuff. I think “Eat ‘em and Smile” was a really good/fun album. I also like his EP “Crazy From the Heat”. I even like “Coconut Grove.”
I like how Dave did his own thing and was always fearless about it. He had visions about music and he acted on them, and did it his way. Like that Frank Sinatra song. Dave will always be the ultimate frontman. Maybe I don’t spend enough time talking about how awesome I thought Dave was because I’m usually defending Sammy. But I honestly appreciate both Hagar and Roth.
Roth is a legend! Bottom line. No debate, argument, or anything will change that fact.
D.O.A.

51….how small would the world be if I was a beer guy? LOL
http://none Dirty Duck

Panama Red:

You did nothing wrong brother. I owe you an apology. I’ve read so many posts this morning that I totally misread yours. I love to read so the length never bothers me….it’s trying to retain everything I’ve read. So in the future I will read more carefully before jumpin’ the gun!

So….”Monster Squad”….2 disc special edition…just got picked it up last week. It’s still a very cool film. Not as good as “Night of the creeps” (Tom Atkins rocks! “Thrill me!”) but has aged pretty well. I was 12 years old when I saw that in the theaters. Did you watch the 2nd disc? Special features? I got very upset when I heard that “fat kid” died in real life. Very sad. Not gonna lie man….when I heard that I had to shut it off and take a breather. It really affected me for some reason. Eiether way it’s a fun film with some great monster references. “Stephen King Rules”
Herb

Let me see if I got this right: Duck was asked why he thought one’s mans hobby was “weird,” and his answer was “because.” That’s profound, man!

I do have to agree on the songs from BoBW. Not exactly what I’d expect from that collaboration.
http://none Dirty Duck

Herb…..your name says it all.

Move on…
http://none Dirty Duck

51…

I see where you’re coming from. There were a few times when DLR was on howard stern and I cringed here and there.

When you’re right…you’re right!
Panama Red

Dirty Duck – It’s cool man about the mis-understanding. I’ve misread people’s posts before too and I sometimes have a difficult time understanding what someone is trying to say here. That’s why I try to write clearly but I also usually ramble too so, I understand dude.
Yeah, I’ve watched all the special features to the Monster Squad DVD.(fourth mention of that movie by me, by the way) I should end every one of my posts now with the words “Monster Squad” just for the hell of it.
I was really shocked when they said that actor died.(I can’t remember his name right now) I can’t believe healthy normal young adults die of pneumonia. That’s just crazy to me. That is really sad and shitty. Anyway, I thought the interviews and extras were really cool and interesting. I heard they had a special anniversary/reunion screening of it in Austin a few years ago with the castmates and everything. That would have been cool to go to.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen “Night of the Creeps” though. Okay I’ll shut up now. Afterall this is a Van Halen fan site, not a monster movie site.
Herb

Duck are you still in grammar school?

Answers questions with “because” and when called on the carpet about it, attempts some lame jab at my name? What’s next? No invitation to this weekends sleep over?

What a tool.
D.O.A.

Hey Dooley…..I noticed the same thing down in Cabo last October. Just before the band came out for one of the nights they were playing all kinds of stuff inside the bar: Toby Keith, AC/DC, Kenny Chesney and original V.H! It was an eyebrow raiser at the time, but I had forgotten about it until you mentioned it.
Tony

I vote we keep this the longest on-going thread the VH News desk has ever seen… there has been some really interesting discussions so far. Let me start off by acknowledging some of the contributors:

• 51 YR OLD — Keep on rockin it, old man! Much respect.
• DOOLEY — How was the food at the Vegas cabo?
• PETE — Next Van Halen concert on the west coast. We’ll have a giant tail gate party and maybe Phillster and Andym will duke it out. Taking all bets.
• PHILLSTER — “Slam Dunk”, that DLR cd was probably my favorite Roth cd… yet sold the worst. (?) wtf, America?
• KAYSER — You’re an articulate, passionate dude. Loved the step father analogy. But liked my ‘bong resin’ metaphor better. (kidding)
• DOA — Agreed. Sammy’s passionate about food / tequila / beaches / music / pussy. Makes sense he’s spent his life pursuing all of those beautiful yet hedonistic desires. I am the same way but I’m more of a beer man.
• PANAMA RED — Much respect bro. More of a ‘nod’ then a dis I assure you. “Eagles Fly” at the 0U812 concert I was at; they performed the same version you spoke about — incredible.
• DIRTY DUCK — We’re the exact same age, man. Spooky. I remember when they released “Women & Children First” and “Fair Warning” on a double sided tape cause they weren’t selling well. I bought them and barely listened to it… Now they’re ranked up there with my favorites. I remember when Dave quit; my brother and I wrote a bunch of fan mail to Eddie pleading for the band not to break up. (lot of good that did). I LOVED eat ‘em and smile too! I remember I painted my face like the album cover for a Halloween party. LmAo. Thing is, I also bought the 5150 album and loved the next incarnation of Van Halen as well. Yeah, I respect the Classic Van Halen flag that you fly. I treasure *ALL* Van Halen’s music. [With the exception of VH3 -- still can't get over Gary's singing... who knows, maybe over time I can start to appreciate that as well? I will say, that mo-fo sings "Mean Streets" like nobodies business.]
• DIAMOND DEAN — I’m calling you out, man! I love everyone’s opinions which is why I keep coming back here… standing on the fence between the Hagar & Roth camp and occasionally hurling a stone at each side. I’m like the kid that pokes a hornet’s nest with a twig just to have fun. TELL ME DUDE, how the HELL can you think 5150 is arguably the best album, and 0U812 was garbage?! Really man… REALLY!? I guess one man’s Molson is another man’s vinegar, so I won’t argue about taste. My two cents follows:

5150 — I’ll agree that the album rocked. Some people complained it was too ‘synthy’ — but look at the time frame. Mid/late 80′s was a keyboard era. Ed had the chance to explore more on the synth stuff which started on the 1984 album. Many people say that the Van Halen sound changed with a swift kick when they switched from Roth to Hagar, but listen to the subtleties between songs like “I’ll wait” and “Jump” and carry that heavy melodic tone with synth melody right into songs like “Dreams” and “Why Can’t this be Love”. Not a change but a TRANSITION — a sign of the times and musical climate. My BIGGEST beef with the 5150 album is Ed’s stupid synth drums that he added in his rack that gave all the beats that god-awful 80′esque laser gun sound. Listen to the drums on that album. THAT (IMO) is the only deterring fact. Other than that, great songs, great album period.
OU812 — Ed toned down the synth drum. We got some bluesy tunes like “Finish What ya Started” raw and funky. “When it’s Love” — best ‘Power Ballad’ EVER written, (IMO). “Black & Blue” — I took it as a double entendre about sex and fighting. Kick ass jam I thought. You got some killer songs like “AFU” and “Source of Infection” — one song that was a little cheesey was “Feels so Good”, but hey, the guitar solo was great and damn, at least the brothers got the chance to show some range. Good for them. I personally can’t believe you didn’t catch the depth in “Mine all Mine” — about inner strength over religious dogma and social morality. WOW, missed that did ya? really, Deano? — REALLY?
Man, it’s kinda funny — I hear dudes saying some crazy stuff on here. “Hagar killed Van Halen” LmFaO.

I hear some people’s point… “they went from Ain’t talkin bout love, to that’s all they wanna fucking talk about is Love.” Well shit, what greater force is there in the universe that get’s us all pumped up, but LOVE. It’s a pretty natural theme for a song I suppose. It’s LOVE for the greatest rock band ever that keeps me listening to the same damn 14 cds every fucking day. (hopefully 15 before the end of the year)

You wanna rag on Sam’s fashion sense? REALLY? — Man, I SEEN Roth & Ed wearing some peculiar shit too. I know at the 2004 concert Sam was wearing yellow pants and a red shirt. He looked like Ronald McDonald on crack. But the dude still had the chops. Ed had his hair up like a samurai and wore combat pants. Point is I don’t GIVE A RATS ASS WHAT A ROCK STAR WEARS. I only care how they play. And unfortunately Ed swaggered around on stage like a wind up toy. Too much red wine that night. But Ed was smokin’ the next time I saw him.

I’m done rehashing the “Sammy didn’t play enough classics” debate. He DID dude. ’nuff said.

And I can only agree about the awesomeness of Roth.

Well, here’s my contribution to this bloated thread.

As always, the diverse opinions are appreciated and welcome.

I hope this string will continue! At least until we get a new album!
DiamondDean

Tony ,

Great reply , thank you 4 responding, its great to hear an educated opinion.

5150
well its my fave cd of all time it has my alltime fave
song wctbl, its production is great , theres not a bad song on it , but there is times when i think Roth wld of done it better , like 5150 the song i think hagar let it down . a strange thing happened , i listened to 1984 n 5150 n we all prefered 1984 . i really struggle with ou812 , am i the odd one out???

ou812
the production is the worst on any album ive heard , u put that cd on in the car it sound terrible . the mighty vh had to rely on ballads , mine all mine might be a deep subject but i find hagars lyrics shallow , basic with absolutely no wit , the complete opposite to roth who i think is brilliant.BLACK N BLUE was released as the first single!!! its lyrics r abysmal , the difference between roth n hager , roth wld of made this a hit , or at least a great song , like drop dead legs, dirty movies etc . appolitical blues , arguably the worst vh song ever , yes worse then how many say i!!! imo AFU what a great song! ruined by hagars lyrics . Source of infection hagars HOT 4 TEACHER , but wld u put it in the same class?? i luv sucker in a 3 piece , with good prduction it wld of been a classic like panama

Just a few other points people have been discussing.

DLR BAND cd

brilliant luv it!!!! , 2 things let it down , the raw production n daves voice was stretching it , but great up there with vhs best

why does no one like skyscraper??? luv the cd think its produced well , it had a genuine hit ( unlike vh ever since) its far better then ou812 imo

hagar or anthony shd never wear tight pants at any stage!!! short stubby men never!! the others ld pull it off , wolfgang no!

Once again thank you , its a great debate n i hope in continues

DD
Dooley

D.O.A.: Glad you noticed that too. Sam deserves a “nod” for making sure the original lineup of VH is recognized at his place, for sure.

Tony: The food at the Vegas Cabo Wabo is really nothing special. But the drinks and atmosphere are great. I’d go again for drinks only or maybe lunch, but not dinner.
Panama Red

Wow man, I thought this thread was about to finally die. Way to add fuel to the almost burned out fire Tony. This has been one of the most interesting ones so far for sure, with great posts.
I forgot, I meant to acknowledge jc’s post back on Feb.9. It made me smile, that was good jc.

I’ll contribute to keep this goin too. Why not? It’s kind of fun. I don’t think I could ever run out of stuff to talk about when it comes to bands I love.

Tony I dug what you said to D.O.A. about Sammy. But if you haven’t tried Cabo Wabo tequila Dude I highly suggest it. It’s honestly one of the best tequilas on the market. I’m not just saying that because I’m a fan of Hagar’s. It’s right up there with Patron. (I actually prefer it over Patron) I’ve saved all of my Cabo bottles throughout the years and I’m starting to run out of storage space. Ha! The design on the original bottle almost looks homemade compared to the sophisticated look now, but it was always awesome. Hey man, If you’re gonna do shots I would spring for the Anjeo. It’s so unbelievably good, so smooth and almost sweet even, and the smell…..oh man, so good. If you’re just gonna make margarita’s and mixed drinks I would go with the less expensive and harsher Blanco or the middle aged hardy Reposado. My days of drinking cheap tequila are over man. I had one to many ungodly hangovers. The prices of premium quality tequila have gone up so much over the years but I still indulge myself sometimes. There’s only about two shots worth left in my bottle of anjeo. Sucks.

Oh, and what you said to Dirty Duck about the double-sided cassette tapes. Man, I totally forgot about those. It’s so funny, I remember now coming across that in a music store and going “Oh shit, two Van Halen albums for the price of one, Awesome!”
I felt so lucky. LOL. That tape and all the other ones I bought right after I saw VH for the first time bit the dust a loooong time ago. I wore those fuckers out! Wow, remember not having C.D.’s and having to worry about your tapes being eaten by your crappy tape player. Ha ha, I do.
It’s hard to think they were having low sales of those albums back then and had to double ‘em up like that, but I guess their popularity had died down some.

Like Dooley said, I think it’s pretty cool how they play early VH with Roth leading the helm at the Cabo Wabo cantinas. Especially since Dave was personally kind of a prick to Sammy during the Sam and Dave tour. Sammy tried to be cool to him and give the fans a once in a lifetime event by getting Dave to come out on stage with him and Mike, but Dave wouldn’t ever answer his dressing room door.(That would have been so awesome to me.) Sammy could have played guitar, Mike on bass, and Dave singing classic VH songs. But instead Dave just kinda talked shit about Sammy during the tour and would say shit like “There’s Sammy with a bottle of tequila in one hand and his dick in the other.” And “Sammy likes to throw a party. I AM the Party.” I have to admit that last quote is pretty cool though. Classic ego-maniacal Dave. I’m glad Sammy can swallow his pride and tuck in his ego enough to play classic VH at his cantina’s.

Hey Tony you mentioned how bad the guys in VH have dressed over the years. (Which I know is kind of unfair, because I’m sure we’ve all looked pretty dumb at one time or another, we just weren’t in the spotlight like they have been) Do you remember what everyone was wearing when Dave shocked everyone at the MTV awards in ‘96, I think. Eddie was wearing Over-alls with no shirt underneath. But Dave was probably the worst. His hair looked weird, almost like a comb-over. And his shirt, oh man he was dressed like a greaseball gweedo from a 70′s disco with most of the buttons left open. And I remember it looked like the belt he had on was worn on the Outside of the belt loops. Weird. And remember years before when Sammy (I think at the grammy’s, can’t remember what year) wore that checker-pattern suit. Crazy. I actually thought that suit was pretty cool back then. Anyway yeah all the guys in VH have dressed weird. I don’t dig Sammy’s bright red and yellow combos he puts together, but whatever that’s him. And those yellow tights he used to wear. And remember the distorted checker pattern tights he wore, in the group photo of VH during the “Right Here Right Now” tour. I remember I had that VH concert shirt on back when I was in school and this pretty hot, slutty skinny little blonde girl wearing a mini-skirt came up to me and said “Those pants are sexy.” referring to Sammy’s on my shirt. Later in a class I had with her we were sitting across from each other at this big table and she gave me this look and then opened her legs flashing me, (like Sharon Stone style in “Basic Instinct”) and this chick didn’t have any panties on! That wasn’t the worst day at school I ever had. LOL.
Remember Eddie’s homeless looking rag-clothes he wore when he was drunk at NAMM years ago, that was a little weird. (I don’t really care how Eddie or anybody dresses, just trying to help keep this thread going for the hell of it.) But the worst was those huge pink M.C. hammer pants he wore back in the day. I actually have some good original photos of him back then wearing those, playing his steinberger. (I’m sure in retrospect I looked pretty lame back then to.) And during the Cherone tour, Mike would wear shorts and big combat boots, which I didn’t think looked bad if he would’ve shaved his hair real short. I love Mikey but what’s up with rockin the mullet for 30 years. I thought that green military jumpsuit Mike wore in the early eighties was cool.

Tony, about Cherone and his rendition of “Mean Street” Not Bad, he sang it with some ferocity. I was glad to hear more of the classics when I saw them with Cherone. I never liked Gary very much and still think he’s a huge piece of cheese, but he actually wasn’t as bad with VH as I was expecting him to be. I got to hear more Roth era songs from Eddie that I was craving to hear for a long time which was really cool, but to me Gary didn’t really feel like he was really a VH band member. Like, it’s kinda hard to explain, but it almost felt like he had won a contest to front Van Halen for a while or something. I don’t know, it just didn’t feel like a natural fit and that he was trying real hard to fit in but it just wasn’t going over real well or something. That’s Just how I personally felt. Maybe I didn’t have time to get used to him with VH, plus I just didn’t think he was a good choice to replace Hagar. Too cheesy and un-worthy. (I remember Gary saying he wasn’t really even a fan of Van Halen before he joined. WHAT?!!) Maybe the way I feel about Gary is the exact way Sammy-haters feel. Did I just have a revelation? Ha ha. Uh-oh I think I just opened the door for more Sammy hate. (It was unintentional, I’ve heard enough of that to last me the rest of my life.)
Also Tony I don’t know if you or anyone else here noticed (or maybe Gary was corrected at a certain point by someone) but both times I heard him sing “Mean Street”, one of the mother fucking Baddest Ass songs in history, he flubbed the lyrics. Some people would probably consider it a small trivial technicality but it really grated on my nerves.
When he sang the part like this:
“…See, a gun is real easy in this desperate part of town.
Turns you from hunter into hunted, go and hunt somebody down.”

Which doesn’t really make sense, if he would’ve paid attention and understood what he was supposed to be singing about he would’ve realized that.

It’s supposed to be:
“Turns you from hunted into hunter, go and hunt somebody down.”
NOT “…hunter into hunted…”

Anyway, like I said some people might say “c’mon man give me a break.” but my feelings were that – if you were given the unbelievable privilege, honor and once in a lifetime opportunity to front VAN HALEN you should understand the songs you’re singing and make sure you had the lyrics right!
Anyway, Damn Tony I can’t believe you induced another rant out of me with your last post.
I guess I can’t help myself. It’s cool shootin the shit every once in a while with other hardcore VH fans. Hey talkin ‘bout “Mean Street” made me put Fair Warning on. I’ve listened to it probably about a zillion times in my life, and it never ceases to fucking amaze me. It’s literally a perfect album. An honest to goodness MASTERPIECE! Amazing, just amazing.
Rich

Panama Red,

Yeah Gary was a good’un for fluffing lyrics. As much as I like VH3, some of the live stuff was let down by his terrible memory. Its a shame he couldn’t pull a Roth and just be “Hey New York, I just forgot the fuckin’ words!”. I liked his rendition of Romeo Delight but when he did Mean Street and Fire in the Hole, he made some mistakes (especially the part before the chorus, he said the “Your iron lung’s a bag of wind” part twice in the Sydney bootleg I had).

But hey ho, all in the past. I’m pretty sure I’ve written essays shorter than that post man! But nice to keep the topic going. This has been a good one.
http://vhnd.com 51yr old fan

another good post panama red, whether you like dlr or sam we all have to remember it is rock and roll and it should help or let us escape the real world once in a while. if a person doesn’t like one or the other versions of vh thats cool just don’t be a hater. and i guess i just don’t get the lyrics thing because i think what attracts me to a song is the music first and we all know who is responsible for that and all i can say is thanks EDDIE.
Tony

Hell yeah, RED — Thanks for keeping the thread going.

I don’t think I could ever get sick of discussing Van Halen… pretty pathetic I don’t have something better to do on a Sunday night.

DEAN — thanks for taking my 2cents with class. I do respect your opinions as well. Obviously when I was bitching about the synthesized drums on the 5150 album, I meant ‘AL’ not Ed. Funny; sometimes I forget they’re 2 different people. Alex seems to just fade into the background and echo whatever mood that Eddie is conveying at the time. A shame sometimes because I think he’s a little more grounded and level-headed. Might’ve kept Eddie from making a mistake or 2 if he spoke up more. (of course, who knows what happens behind closed doors).

DLR cd: good shit! Sounded more like Van Halen then VH3 did at the time. SO-O-O-O underrated that cd was. Favorite song, “Lose the Dress (keep the shoes)” — it sounds simplistic but you gotta read between the lines. DEEP shit.

I hear MANY people say that they hated the Balance cd but I thought they really found their groove on that one. It sounded tight and raw, songs like “Don’t tell Me…” and “Feelings” — I loved that song especially; underrated (IMO). I also loved their single “Humans Being” was a kick-ass jam.

But I really was blown away by “Me Wise Magic” and “Can’t get This Stuff No More”. Oh man, I always imagine what could’ve been if Ed could have just accepted Roth for who he is. Yeah, he acts like an egomaniacal prick sometimes. But shit, that’s Roth.

RED — agreed with 99.9% of your response. I too, wish Dave would’ve taken Sam up on his offer to join him on stage. I was at a concert (in PA I think) and Mike was with Sammy and I hoped that DLR would’ve come out for at least one song. Too bad. And yeah, Sammy always had respect for Roth, but that was DEFINITELY NOT a 2 way street.
That story about ‘Miss Mini-skirt’ sounded pretty good to me. WORST day of school you say!?!? Dude, speaking of worst things, if the worst thing in the world happens, and we NEVER get any new VH music… someday I’ll start listening to the VH3 album and appreciating it more. (well… maybe). Cherone sang the classics pretty good. I remember he lost his voice at a concert (because he always strained his voice trying to sound like Sammy) anyhoo, he couldn’t finish the song he was on. The crowd started chanting, “WE WANT DAVE!” — and later in an interview, Gary Cherone’s brother said he was in the crowd and was chanting the same thing! LmAo. Funny shit. And like you were saying about the many interesting outfits they have worn throughout the years… man, when they came out at the MTV award show that year, I was just happy to see Dave out on stage again. But damn, Dave did look kinda weird. You said once before RED, how the responses are sometimes more entertaining than the story. The comments on this string are a lot of fun.
Yeah, DOA and HERB were both saying about Sammy, how the guy is just doing what he loves. So more power to him. I can’t stomach tequila though.

I suppose that a forum or blog would be a better place for all this back and forth chatty-ness. But the few VH forums I found I wasn’t impressed by.

Hope we get some more posts on this undying thread.

RED — the .1% I can’t agree with — “Monster Squad”. REALLY? That was corny shit (IMO). BUT, did you see the movie “Zombie Land”?! GOOD STUFF! And great soundtrack. Van Halen got some nice mentions.

God Bless all ya Van Halen fans!
halenhagar

Ducky I think your the PUTZ Mr. “thinks he’s a Van Halen expert”??

Lat time I saw any PR stuff written Sammy was the last frontman to record for Van Halen, amd that was in 2005 !!!!

Get your facts straight.

And, I will probably get a hug, unlike you.
Panama Red

Tony I never heard that about Gary’s brother. That’s really pretty funny if you think about it.

Yeah, I could see someone getting aggravated by the back and forth posts by me and some other regulars here but it’s only because we are jonesing so hard for new Van Halen material so we discuss anything we can sometimes to keep are interests peaked, ya know? It’s good to talk about something VH related while we eternally wait for new Van Halen stuff. If anyone here can recommend a good VH chatroom I would go check it out when I’m in the mood to talk VH instead of posting such long comments here. I’ve looked a couple of times, couldn’t find a good one. Although, I have already gotten used to some of the personalities here. If I went somewhere else there would be a whole new set of Sammy haters to deal with, ha ha.

Tony you mentioned “Mine All Mine” (my fav song from OU812) and how great that song was. I think lyrically it was very interesting and well written and also musically impressive. A great meaningful song to me. I love the lyrics, the drums, awesome guitar playing as always. So many people bitch about OU812. Yes the production was kind of screwed up, like the lack of bass, but it’s still a great album with great songs. I think I remember an interview with VH and they were talking about re-recording that album, but I think it was Sammy who said he would rather look forward and spend time working on making a new album instead. It seems a little weird to have to re-record that album anyway. Couldn’t they just re-mix it and re-master it?

Just throwing in my two cents about stuff being talked about in recent posts.
I don’t like the DLR Band C.D. as much as some of ya’ll. But I really love the song “Black Sand” from that album. That is such a cool, mellow surf song to listen to.

Tony – about the sexy, somewhat slutty little blonde chick. I said it “wasn’t” the worst day in school. I was being stupidly sarcastic. And I didn’t act on that chicks “subtle flirtations” (being sarcastic again) because I had my own little blonde girlfriend at the time that I was infatuated with (who wasn’t quite slutty enough, heh heh) So unfortunately I don’t have a good story to go along with that girl. But I enjoyed the view she offered me. Ha!

Before I go, I know “The Monster Squad” has come up now 5 times, I swear I’m not obsessed with talking about it. Other people keep bringing it up too, I’ve only watched my DVD once since I bought it about a year ago. But when I was a kid I was really into monsters and monster movies. I was kind of a weird kid. I think I had the same childhood as Rob Zombie. Anyway, I liked that movie when I was a kid because it incorporated all of the Universal studio classic Monsters. Of course it was kind of “corny” and far-fetched. But it was a fantasy-type fictional movie. I’m sure everyone has a few movies they still like and watch from their childhood for nostalgic reasons. I still enjoy that movie. It’s kind of one of those “cult classics” to me. It’s not the kind of movie that would win an Oscar but it’s just silly fun. I like it.
Haven’t seen “Zombie Land” yet. But I’m gonna.
It’s been fun shootin the shit with all ya’ll. Too bad about the tequila thing and your stomach Tony. I should start calling you “No Mas, Tony”. Later on man.

Thanks to everyone for their interesting comments in lieu of new VH news. Like I said, sometimes it’s more entertaining reading the comments here than the actual news. Hearing someone’s take on a VH song or personal experience with VH can be interesting and is better to hear than what’s coming from the Van Halen camp….. “crickets chirping”
I haven’t run out of hope yet, but it’s fun to fill the void with other VH fans.
Cheers (except Tony-“No Mas”) j/k
Don

just went out and bought the chickenfoot cd and might i say its well worth the money, this cd kicks ass!
http://www.nomastony.com No Mas Tony

RED: Okay, now I get it. What a difference the word, “WASN’T” can make in a sentence. And I bet you’re kicking yourself for the missed opportunity with that “Sexy Little Thing”. LmAo.

I should stop with all this babble… but I really, have nothing better to do. (Sad to say.)

‘DLR band’ cd: Black Sand WAS a trippy little jam. I love every song on that cd except for “Slam Dunk” for some reason. (The only song they played on the radio — go figure) I liked almost all of Dave’s solo stuff — even “Filthy Little Mouth” (which most don’t care for). The only album I didn’t think much of was “Sky Scraper”… something about the way the tried to throw some dance like beats in with Vai’s guitar; went together like cool aid and battery acid. (come to think of it… cool aid contains battery acid, right?)

Now, go rent yourself a copy of “Zombie Land”!… nothing like zombies getting their heads blown off while “Everybody Wants Some” plays in the background. über cool

Yay for DON. Someone else gets “kicked by the ‘foot”. HAH!, watch… that’ll be the name of their next album. I demand 5% royalties, Satch!

More mindless babble from “No Mas Tony”.

Please DLR, spill some beans on the Van Halen saga already. I’m bored.
randy

2nd album already,when is VH coming out with a new one?
Jacob Savage

K…
1. Chickenfoot…2nd cd? HELL YEA
2. Chickenfoot DVD? ABOUT DAMN TIME
3. I must have gotten a bad copy of Satch’s paris dvd… because the menu option that said “interview” didnt even work… that shit irritates me to no end… i bet it was good.
4. See items 1 & 2