I am SO glad there’s Chickenfoot. It gives the fans AND the “VH-ONLY” fans something to focus on. I’m happy for everyone.
I absolutely love the album, and the band sounds loose and fun. I’ll be seeing them 3 times this summer and I can’t wait.
As for tuning to e-flat…this hardly qualifies a band for being a VH knock-off. VH tuned down a half-step with Sammy, and to dropped-d with Dave. Who cares? Both sound cool, and both serves a purpose.
In all seriousness, if you don’t like Sammy, you don’t like Chickenfoot. We all get that. I’ve never spent a lot of time bashing something I don’t like, I usually just tuned out and spent time on stuff I DO like.
In a weird kind of way, I suppose since Chickenfoot elicits such strong responses (both positive and negative) goes to show how serious people take it, and how relevant they are.
I am happy to have more “big rock” to be excited about. And you know what? These guys DO amuse me and they DO seem like they’re involved in something they are passionate about. Whether you share the passion or not doesn’t make them poseurs, it just means you don’t share their vibe.
There’s no law against that, but just because you don’t get it doesn’t mean it’s disinenous baby!
You all rock…
Cam Winston
Chickenfoot sounds nothing like Van Halen. Reason: you can hear the bass guitar.
Jonno Rules
Hey Fair Warning!!
You the man!!!!
You ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff
Stew,
John 5 also played guitar on the DLR BAND album. He is also a very accomplished studio musician who is fluent in everything from country to metal to jazz. I believe his real name is John Lowery. Don’t go by his Marylin Manson stuff, dig deep and hear some of his other more obscure stuff, you might be impressed. Also, if you listen to Rob Zombie’s live album……..that is John 5 as well. I am certainly not a fan of Marylin Manson, but have heard his other studio stuff, and it is quite good. Just an FYI…….no bashing or hating intended
satovan
Once again group hug everybody, so anyone who played guitar in the 80′s owes something to Eddie? duh?but satch took what eddie did and sent it to the stratosphere along with steve! seriously I love ed as much as the next chickenfoot basher but ed really hasn’t done much to guitar innovation since fair warning( and that is quite a catalog) well besides the drill(paul gilbert and billy sheehan excluded) thats the one thing about joe and steve is that they weren’t bogged down by drugs and alcohol and they grabbed the torch and gave eddie a break and said hey let us keep the flame alive. I’m sure they would be the first to tell you that if it weren’t for eddie they wouldn’t be selling albums. now on a side note how weird is it that when dave quit/got fired he got steve vai and when sammmy wanted a new band he got steves teacher? Its all about showing up eddie! but these guys love eddie its only the singers who want to show him up typical LSD! Now cant we all just say that the only reason we are upset is that eddie hasn’t done anything to rebunk this? why should he what does he have to prove, he’s the best, if you dont believe me listen to track 2 off of VH1!
Karl
“You just admited that satch is from the EVH school.”
Why use the word ‘admitted’ as if it were something we were all trying to keep secret but, hey, it’s out in the open now so might as well admit it? Every shredder will tell you exactly where their style of playing originates from and that they might not be doing what they’re doing if it were not for Eddie Van Halen. Shred starts with Ed. There isn’t one of these guys who hasn’t said that Eddie is God at some point. But they’ve all (at least the good ones) taken it and made it their own. By your reckoning, everyone who plays blues based rock/metal must sound like Hendrix? Other than playing a certain style that can loosely be termed shred Joe sounds nothing like Ed, just the same as Metalica sound nothing like AC/DC despite both bands being 100% metal.
So, again, which CF tracks sound like which VH tracks? And which Satch licks or solos sound like which Eddie licks and solos?
By the way, as said before, I don’t ‘care’ what you think, but isn’t this supposed to be a place for discussion? And unlike you I’m not burdened buy the team game thing so I don’t need to go only to the CF site or only to the VH site…
Top Jimmy
Satriani sounds much more like Hendrix than Eddie to me. I’m not saying he wasn’t influenced by Eddie or doesn’t use similar licks and techniques, but I hear the Hendrix influence much more than I hear Eddie’s influence.
SCAR
Get him Karl – Go get him boy!!!!!
Karl
Good call Top Jimmy, I’d say he falls somewhere half way between the two.
SCAR -Grrrrr..
RickieVanWhalen
Right on Satovan!
RickieVanWhalen
Karl you must liken the sound of your own voice to Mozart! I am not interested in proving anything to you on this doping forum. Get your ears checked.
By the way, Via lives in my town. I have seen him in the supermarket but was too chickfoot (sorry i mean chickenshit) to talk to him. Next time I see him I will accidently call him EVH and see how he reacts!
pushtoshove
He would probably be complimented or say ” I wish ” .
RickieVanWhalen
You can start with the old satovan nonsense about “Mystic Potatoe” (see the posts from a few months ago). Look at the live version that comes up first on the youtube search. In this cheeseball tune satch quotes “I’m the One”, “Atomic Punk”, and “Eruption” quite clearly. Let me know if you need help hearing it.
RickieVanWhalen
still want the group hug sato?
Harry Ballsonya
See once again we have our usual people on here being buzz killers!
Go to another site please!
This site is about sharing music news!
Congrats to Eddie and his new marriage and all of it!
Now make some new music or get off the pot!
Chickenfoot is what Van Halen used to be and that’s a band people.
Sammy and Mike aren’t doing this to “spite” Eddie like some think because of a “reunion” tour.
These guys love music, they like to play music, and they love the fans!
A certain band named Van Halen used to do the same and it’s a shame they aren’t like that anymore.
Enjoy this band and the members who are in it. Sammy, Mike, Chad, and Joe.
Nothing Van Halen about this band except that 2 members used to be in that thing called Van Halen some years ago.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Satriani sounds much more like Hendrix than Eddie to me. I’m not saying he wasn’t influenced by Eddie or doesn’t use similar licks and techniques, but I hear the Hendrix influence much more than I hear Eddie’s influence[/Quote]
I actually heard Striani interviewed where he said the same thing … that Hendrix was the artist that influenced him the most. Even emulated his stage and pedal setups.
Karl
“I am not interested in proving anything to you on this doping forum.”
Well, I wasn’t addressing you… but you did anyway.
But yet again you talk as if you know guitar but apparently you don’t. Quoting someone and sounding like them are two different things. Are you seriously telling me that if a Satriani tune came on the radio that you haven’t heard before you’d sit up and go “Hey, it’s a new tune from EVH”? Of course you wouldn’t (mind you, I’m beginning to wonder with half the people who post here). If Eddie came on you’d know it was Eddie. And if Joe came on you’d know it was Joe. That’s because they play the same kind of music in their own particular ways. Dismissing Joe because he plays a type of music pioneered by someone else is as daft as dismissing Clapton as a mere Hendrix knock off.
RickieVanWhalen
Karl – are you saying that Satch does not quote EVH in his tunes? I just want to be sure before I give you tune, verse and EVH lick quoted.
Chris
I think it’s a common thing with Eddie’s peers and some of his idols. Hendrix is the ‘Safe’ option and Eddie is always mentioned in defeating license when guitarists past & present mention who inspired/influenced them. From memory only Steve Vai (I know there are others!) has said how much he admires Eddie Van Halen. As for the rest they didn’t or won’t acknowledge Eddie because it was cooler to say Hendrix was an influence rather than Eddie. It is common practise to say Hendrix was an influence so they could get credibility with their own peers, critics, the media other guitarist. Yet I hear more Eddie than Hendrix in all of them!! But I guess for all that to change Eddie has to die first for him to be acknowledged on par as Hendrix.
So in Joe Satriani’s case (and others!), I think he was stunned and shocked when Eddie erupted on the scene!! Eddie did the impossible, he reinvented and revolutionise the guitar that all before him said it could never be done since Hendrix died. I think Joe was pissed that he didn’t come up with what Eddie did first. He was and will always be behind the 8 ball with Eddie. Eddie is light years ahead of him and the rest. The other day I put on ‘Eruption’ and crank it up so loud!! I got a knock on the door from one of my neighbours. Expecting their complaints I was surprised when they said how much they loved it and that their 5 year old child was in awe of what Eddie was playing!!!! It felt surreal, looking into that’s kids eyes reminded me of when I heard Eruption for the first time!!
That being said, I just want to say since the first Van Halen album; King Edward Van Halen is “THE GUITAR GOD” I’ve said it since the beginning, and I don’t have to say it when he leaves this world, like the band wagon will do thereafter. He is the chosen one, a genius, one of kind, an icon the best damn gunslingin’ guitarist ever and a good man!!!!!
All hail King Edward Van Halen!!!
http://yahoo evh4ever
shit if you did tell steve vai dude your evh
he probably would be like shit i wish
cuz in my guitar world magazine he says i grew up
listening to eddie just whale on the axe and i sat there
practicing every day trying to do his solo he says i still cant play the damn thing the man is a virtuoso and a god
Karl
Rickie – So if Stach came on the radio with tune you didn’t know, you’d think it was Eddie?
Chris – No-one is saying that Eddie didn’t invent it all. “I just want to say since the first Van Halen album; King Edward Van Halen is “THE GUITAR GOD” I’ve said it since the beginning, and I don’t have to say it when he leaves this world, like the band wagon will do thereafter.” You really think you’re the only one saying that?
RickieVanWhalen
His tone is not as wet as EVH. I would know the difference. Plus EVH does not play new music – LOL!!Remember, I have been playing for 30 years Karl. I have the average listener at a disadvantage.
Everybody knows VH when they come on the radio from the very first note. That is the mark of a brilliant and special band/player. Not so true for satch, not true at all for CF.
Keep in mind, I love satch. He just does not compare to EVH on many fronts.
Mark Sachs
As someone mentioned earlier, there just isn’t any current Van Halen news to report from a musical standpoint! I’m like everybody else in the sense that I want a new Van Halen album.
Wolfie being in the band insures that it will happen eventually because Eddie will want to make an album with his son, just like he wanted to tour with his son. In my opinion if it wouldn’t be for Wolfie there is a strong chance that we wouldn’t see a new album, especially given Ed’s recent history of releasing new music.
In the meantime, enjoy the new Chickenfoot album. It is real rock and roll! Plus, it beats anything else that is playing on the radio today.
Cam Winston
— Everybody knows VH when they come on the radio from the very first note. —
They’re usually 20-30 year old songs played on ‘oldies’ radio nowadays, generally after Peter Frampton or ZZ Top, of course they know who it is.
— Not so true for satch, not true at all for CF. —-
True.
But, Satch hasn’t had any hits so only his diehard fans will grasp his ‘sound’ & CF is just getting started. Give it time, no one could match up EVH with the sound they heard back in 1980. Trust me, if CF is around 5 years from now and had sold 10 million records/CDs, people would know their work from the first riff or so, too.
Karl
Rickie, I’ve been playing for 35 years!
Not for one minute suggesting that Satch compares to Eddie, just that he doesn’t sound at all like Eddie other than he plays the kind of music pioneered by Ed. Satch definitely has his own sound, as does say Vai. And it’s that unique voice that lifts the likes of Satch and Vai above otherwise mind bogglingly good (in technical terms, at least) guitarists such as, say, Guthrie Govan.
Bluesbro
Chris et al,
You neophytes crack me up. You speak as if you have personal knowledge of everyone’s thoughts. And your narrow view of one guitarist being the end all be all of the instrument is laughable. Do you think EVH had no influences … just came out of the womb divinely inspired, and that he invented every guitar trick he featured? Take his volume swell technique (fret hammer-on while rolling the amp knob). This was done by many guitarists before him, many without any effects electronics … most notably Roy Buchanan (who’s is the greatest guitarist you have probably never heard of … check out some of his old footage on Youtube to see another virtuoso). Jeff Beck readily admits that Buchanan was a primary influence, as did Jimi Hendrix (although Hendrix would only reluctantly admit that). He was known as the guitar player that guitar players went to see live. Two handed guitar neck tap-on pull-offs … old news too. Is EVH a vituoso? Absolutely imo, but so are/were so many before him.
Also, check out Adrian Legg. An incredilbe guitarist, He alters tone by adjusting the tuning pegs while playing, among many other beautiful techniques. Some great Yuotube vids of him too.
One more thing on the Eddie vs. Joe debate. Joe can do what Eddie has done, but I don’t think eddie could do what Joe does … not in his decades long drug and alcoholic haze. Joe plays a show with no front man, carrying the entire thing. I’m not saying Eddie couldn’t have done that strong and sober, lord knows I would pay money to see him just play guitar all by himself. But Joe is 52 but looks and plays like he is in his mid 30′s, in his prime. Ed is in his 50′s but seems so much older with the abuse he’s incurred. JS has release a ton of new material since VH last laid down a new track.
I’m not saying JS is better than EVH, both are/were legendary guitar players. But if I had to take a guitarist to play right now, it is no contest imo. And that is just my opinion, because after all music appeal is totally subjective. That being said, I think Roy Buchanan is more creative than either … but I choose to appreciate them all.
RickieVanWhalen
Karl
I think because of our background as players we tend to hear the nuiances, little as they may be, that define players. I certainly can tell satch from EVH from vai. I am not so sure that even a hard core fan could though given a new tune and asked to name who is playing. My guess is that they would say it’s EVH because of the legatto lines, harmonics, whammy bar, speed, etc. You know, the whole school of thought is credited, rightfully so, to EVH.
I loved vai with Zappa but he broke into the industry, so to speak, with guitar player magazine and the “attitude song”. This tune, IMO, is a blatant but brilliant rip off of the ending section to fools (Women and Children First). By the way, Vai lives in my hometown. I saw him about two years ago in a supermarket but was to blown away to say anything. I regret that!
Karl
Never really liked The Attitude song. Couldn’t understand why there was a minor fuss being made about it at the time. Too much of that cheesy double tracking that he does. There’s lots of Vai I really love, The Riddle, Blue Powder, Bad Horsie, Tender Surrender, Warm Regards, but not The Attitude Song.
Maybe you’re right, maybe I can hear it instantly because I play. To me, though, the difference is not subtle. I can tell any of these guys in a few notes. Same with Bettencourt, Lifeson, Young, Gilmour, Slash, Moore, SRV, Lynch, Beck, Santana, Holdsworth, Schenker, Schon, May. It only takes a few notes. That’s what makes a great guitarist for me (completely reinventing how the guitar can be played helps, too!). That’s what gets me about most of the Joe v Ed arguments here, it always seems to come down to technique. I don’t care about technique (although it’s to be much admired), it’s the voice that makes it.
RickieVanWhalen
What at array of players you just named! The SRV death still breaks my heart. He was the best blues guy every. His death was a terrible blow to our industry.
I would hope that Pat Metheny had your ear. You should check out “Still Life/Talking” from the mid 80s. I do not know much about Lynch?
Bridge
I can’t wait to see the posts in here about what Sammy said about Eddie in the new Guitar Player Mag. This site is gonna melt. Anyone see it yet? Sammy claims that for the better part of his career with VH, the music writing was all a head trip for Eddie, the songs were too “riff oriented” and almost impossible to write lyrics to. I almost tore the mag in half as I was reading it . SOMEBODY MAKE IT STOP!! This is almost like professional wrestling anymore. Doesn’t anyone know where the high road is?
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Bridge….
Proof that “sammy hagar” isnt mr. perfect.
Also proof that this guy should let the past go.
If he’s so happy with chickenfoot why give a shit about
talkin’ eddie van halen? Bitter maybe?
He should be thanking his lucky stars for the shit he fell into.
If it wasnt for “VH”, sammy hagar would NEVER be where he is today! You think he’s be selling out shows with his solo shit only? Please!
Like roth said many years ago…”Sammy would sell the rights to his butthole if it got him any credit”
Thats my sammy rant for the day….
http://www.spoil.se Jan
The album is really average… Just can’t stand Sammy.
Bridge
Ducky, Well put.
http://www.chickenfoot,us crazy5150
Wait a cotton pickin minute here, the so called Van Halen fans are a bunch of angry, idiotic complainers I have ever heard, even when Sammy was part of Van Halen and making great rock and roll music and Van Halen worked, Van Halen is nothing with out Sammy Hagar or Michael Anthony, and this Chickenfoot is way better than the last 13 years of Van Halen besides the 3 songs that came out in 2005 which would have been better if Eddie din’t control and reck them without have Mikey on board and restaining Sammy. So, you so called VH fans stuck in the pre-’84 years, stay angry like your idol Eddie and be nothing like the new version of Van Halen.
I am sticking with Van Hagar and Chickenfoot /|\