VAN HALEN NEWS DESK

“Mean Street,” then and now

Dave & Ed

At the press conference announcing the 2007 tour, a giddy David Lee Roth asked an excited but at times skeptical crowd of journalists and fans to “judge the band harshly” in his confidence the group could still deliver the goods on stage.

The man got his wish, as a countless reviews poured in once the tour commenced, in Sept, 2007. And despite the fact that die-hard fans were upset that Michael Anthony wasn’t part of it, most reviews, from from fans and critics alike, were extremely positive. People raved about astounding performances of classic songs that had been neglected far too long, and the joy of seeing Roth back with the band. As for the negative reviews, there were several complaints about sound quality, and there were a some shows (thankfully, very few) were fans thought that Eddie gave a sub-par performance, possibly due to drinking.

Below are two live versions of one of Van Halen’s most ass-kicking songs, “Mean Street.” One was filmed in South American in 1983, while the other was filmed during the 2008 tour.

We admit this isn’t quite an apples-to-apples comparison, as we will have to compare professionally filmed footage and soundboard audio from ’83 to footage that an audience member filmed on a consumer digital camera, in ’08.

It might seem almost unfair to Van Halen to do this, because, after all, how many bands (if any) are capable of playing a song just as good now as they did 20 to 30 years ago? Everyone (be they a plumber or a musician) tends to lose some zip on their fastball over a period of thirty years, as age is the great equalizer common to us all.

Here are the two performances of “Mean Street,” for your viewing pleasure. How does the VH of the past measure up to the current model? Draw your own conclusions, and let us know here at the VHND how you see things.

“Mean Street” 1983:

“Mean Street” 2008:

  • C’Mon Now!

    Jim if you say mike is not missed in terms of his vocals, then you have never really listened to a VH song; with Dave or Sammy. His harmonies are just as important as Ed’s palying or Al’s snare. I suppose Al’s snare is not important when cosidering the VH sound either.

  • Eric

    I saw 2 shows in 07-08, both were very good. I did however notice how predictable the general sound and setlist were(way too organized for the mighty VH)LOL
    Having said that, 3 years ago we would have all killed to see Mean Street played with David Lee Roth in the now.Any critic of the “new Van Halen” obviously has no respect for the original.
    The magic of this band was hindered for roughly 23 years, and both vocal, and playing techniques have evolved and changed.I cant think of any other band that can mirror the past from 83 to 2008?I like how the band looks, and im really glad that they didnt go the cheesey route with old stage lights, and props, and hair.LOL
    Also, that is one of the best live performances in 83 that ive ever heard! Alot of these old shows are brimming with drunkenness, lost ques and, poor timing. The “new” Van Halen is here, and its 75% of what we wanted.Wolfgang does great, but the most notable difference in the new performance is the lacking of Mad Anthony’s back up vocals(it wasnt all Dave).

  • matt

    I saw VH twice on the new tour and thought they kicked ass. I am too young to have seen them live back in the day, but I’ve seen a good amount of youtube and have a tape of the US Festival.
    That being said, I am so perplexed as to the critics of this most recent tour. I have nothing against Michael Anthony, but I honestly thought Wolf was superior in every way. I can tell you that watching the tape of the US Festival, MA’s solo absolutely sucks the life out of the show. I agree that he was for many years underrated(in addition to seeming like the only normal human being in this band), but it seems like part of VH’s fanbase has gone way overboard with this “Michael Anthony was crucial” sentiment. According to Anthony, hadn’t Ed had been playing bass (dubbed in) on some of the albums for quite a while…how come all these fans weren’t suspecting this if he’s so critical?
    I also cannot understand people who say DLR has “lost his voice”. If anything, I thought his singing was tremendously improved. While his showmanship and general “entertainment value” is off the charts in the old shows, he actually sang the lyrics and seemed like he was paying attention, not to mention his energy and athleticism would be in the top .001% of all 53 year olds (or whatever he is) in ’07. I thought his voice was much better and wondered if he took singing lessons! I missed the banshee screams, but he far exceeded my expectations and kicked ass beyond belief.
    I am not a guitar or drum player and cannot critique Ed or Al’s technical skill, but they were both in incredible shape and I thought they kicked ass. If this was disappointing, what in God’s name were your expectations?
    While it is disappointing that VH seems to have no sense of urgency on recording new music, I had absolutely no disappointment in their live performance. They clearly worked very hard to get in impressive physical and musical shape. This tour exceeded my wildest expectations of 3 50+ year old men and a 16 year old playing old music on a new tour. Much respect to other or differing opinions, but when I read some of this stuff about how bad or disappointing this tour was, I say to myself that there is no way we were watching the same thing. Maybe it was because of this being the first time I saw them, and yes I would slightly take the 83 version over the current version, but all VH fans should be happy that it’s a tough call…

  • http://www.terrywhalenband.com Terry Whalen

    Both versions cook, it’s Van Halen. I prefer the tempo of the newer version, it shows the maturity gained through the years. Dave is pretty close to the old days. Let’s not forget there would have been a time a few years ago where he would not have been able to pull that off. He gets his chops back all things considering… and no forgotten words.

    I was at their last show in Quebec City in 2009 and I was standing int the front row and it was awesome. Keep it comin’ boys, can’t wait for some new material.

  • ATOMIC PUNK

    ITS FAN FUCKING HALEN!!!!! NUFF SAID!

  • http://vhnd JVH

    It’s like comparing apples to oranges but we must all be thankful that #1. that Ed and Dave co-exist at all, #2. we’re getting to hear the old classics live again and #3.there’s new VH music on the horizon.-Cheers

  • Roth Godd

    MAKE ED LISTEN TO THE FIRST 4 ALBUMS NON-STOP…
    MAKE ED RECORD WITH FRANKENSTEIN (ASH GUITAR, NOT BASSWOOD)HE CAN RECAPTURE THE REAL BROWN SOUND
    ROTH IS GOING TO MAKE THE ALBUM SOUND LIKE 1978
    ROTH RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!