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The Van Halen Holy Grail: 1981 Oakland Footage

1981_VHND.comMystery of the Fair Warning tour footage — Does a complete Oakland concert exist on film?

Anyone even remotely familiar with the third Indiana Jones film “The Last Crusade” is aware the film dealt with Dr. Jones pursuit of the Holy Grail. Through much intrigue, action and hardship, Jones finally had the Grail in his grasp…

A similar chase has been undertaken by die-hard Van Halen fans and bootleg collectors for nearly thirty years now: the Sacred Footage of Van Halen’s three night stand at the Oakland Coliseum, June 11-13, 1981, which in and of itself constitutes the Holy Grail in Van Halen mythology.

This footage was filmed during the incredible Fair Warning tour, to be aired on MTV, as well as such television programs as Don Kirshner Rock Concert, Entertainment Tonight, and American Bandstand. The band even hoped that Solid Gold would at least air the “So This Is Love” video, but the program director refused, saying they wouldn’t air it unless the band made an in-person appearance, which never came to pass.

The only three songs from this taping that have ever aired are “Unchained,” “Hear About it Later” and “So This Is Love,”  which together make up some of the most cherished footage of early Van Halen. Some fans consider the Fair Warning tour as the pinnacle of Van Halen’s powers, based on what precious little footage has circulated from the David Lee Roth era.

Since only three videos have emerged from this taping, this begs two questions from the VH faithful: Were any or all of the three Oakland concerts filmed in their entirety? And, if so, then where the hell is the footage??

As with any object bordering on myth-like status, the answer depends solely upon what the seeker wishes to believe. In interviews with The Inside magazine several years ago, Mike Anthony’s longtime bass tech, Kevin Dugan, expressed doubt that the shows were filmed in their entirety, and that only the three songs presently circulating were captured. A second former VH roadie, who wished to remain anonymous, told The Inside staff the same thing. He said that the reason the band didn’t film a whole show was simply because filming was very expensive and they felt there was no reason to film a whole concert when they just wanted to put together some videos for MTV. And then last year, when Michael Anthony told the Van Halen News Desk that, unfortunately, he, too, believes the full shows weren’t filmed, many fans considered that to be the final nail in the coffin.

dave-vhndcomYet in a video interview coinciding with the original video release to TV in 1981, David Lee Roth confided in Los Angeles DJ, Jim Ladd. Roth implied that the complete shows were indeed filmed, yet most of the footage turned out to be unusable — a “dismal disaster” in Roth’s words. This is borne out by a careful study of the three videos, which reveal several quick cuts that appear to be from other songs or portions of the evening.

So if footage of a complete Fair Warning concert does indeed exist, who has it, and when is Van Halen finally going to release it?

This is where things get nebulously speculative. The band has never been exactly forthcoming with what resides in its vaults. And even if a member of Van Halen, tells you that it does or doesn’t exist, how much trust could you put in their memory?

The VHND has recently learned that the footage was jointly financed by Warner Bros. Records and Van Halen, and that Warner Bros. may not stand in Van Halen’s way if they wanted to release the footage, as both parties would simply share the profits.

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So the footage could be in a warehouse owned by Time/Warner, and/or gathering dust in some closet at 5150 studios. In a recent interview Edward Van Halen has mentioned that the band has a stockpile of footage that remains unreleased, including “things like me playing guitar at the 6th grade talent show. There’s all kinds of cool and funny shit we could put out.” If this footage does exist and happens to be in rough shape, the technology is available today to make it potentially viable for release, either as a complete show, or as the three songs used as supplementary material in a home viewing package, as in the 2003 Led Zeppelin DVD.

For the fans that have been seeking this material for nearly three decades, let’s hope the wait isn’t much longer.

The three classic videos:

Hear About It Later:

So This Is Love:

Unchained:


  • EDWARDisTHEbest

    Ok that was NOT fair, when i saw the headline i thought to myself “HOLY CRAP THEY FOUND IT!!!……(reading down)…. awww @#!$%#&”

  • jonas

    Highly doubtful a video exists, oh well!

  • http://michaelquinn.com.au Michael

    Wow – even old stuff isn’t being released, let alone new stuff. Didn’t think VH could actually go backwards?

  • Dawn

    VH1-Classic runs those videos. Unchained is the best. They have so much energy. Of course that would be awesome if that concert footage was ever found and released. Just like it would be awesome if their last tour was.

  • Bocephus

    ATTENTION: REPEAT ATTENTION:

    Get on the phone with Peter Bogdanovich (Tom Petty- Runnin Down A Dream DVD)and make a 2HR Long Van Halen Retrospective from the very beginning.

    Repeat: Get on the phone with Peter Bogdanovich and make a Full length Van Halen documentary from front to back.

    They are the only successful Rock Band that has never had a “Behind the Music” or a serious Documentary done.

    This guy is one of the best.

    Can ya see it: Van Halen-Running With The Devil…in stores now.

    Peter Bogdanovich is his name. Call him. Oh ya..and it included Eddie, Alex, Mikey, Sammy, Dave, Gary, Valerie, Ted Templeman, Gene Simmons, Bruce, Rudy, Andy, and everyone else ever associated with this True American Rock Band from California.

    Call him.

  • Bocephus

    Sorry forgot something..

    As part of the 2 CD set..You will get a full length Concert from the 2007-2008 Van Halen Tour..

    Thanxs.

    Call him. I’ll write it. We can write it.

  • ikethebird

    I would rather have DVD gems like this instead of another Best of….

  • SCAR

    When Fair Warning was released, DLR and AVH did several interviews with Jim Ladd Promoting Fair Warning and the upcoming tour. Jim Ladd is known for hosting Rockline, but he was a local DJ at KMET 98.7(a cool rock station at the time) back then in Los Angeles. I remember every time Ladd asked DLR a question, he really never got any straight answers from him. There was so much laughing and goofing off during these interviews that I think DLR and AVH had a plan just to run Jim Ladd in circles. The interviews were a lot of fun though! So who really knows if what DLR said to Jim Ladd about the tour footage is true or not. I along with most of you hope the entire film footage is out there – somewhere.

  • DANOOOSH

    WE KNOW ED HAS THE FOOTAGE,JUST LIKE LAST YEARS TOUR,WHICH WE KNOW WAS FILMED…AAAH..BUT WHY GIVE THEM WHAT THEY ALREADY SAW..SAYS ED..I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON SITE ARE GETTING SO NEGATIVE..ED DOESNT HAVE A CLUE WHAT YHE FANS WANT,OR HE DOESNT CARE,EITHER WAY WE CONTINUE TO GET NOTHING..

  • DANOOOSH

    ED SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE FANS THEY HAVE LEFT..CMON ED WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU WAITING FOR..??YOUNGER GENERATIONS WONT HAVE A CLUE WHO THE HELL VAN HALEN IS..THROW US A BONE..

  • Mark Sachs

    Excellent posts so far on this very frustrating topic. Eddie continues to send out mixed messages as usual. For example, on the one hand he always gives off the impression that he either needs money or is just really greedy, whether it be hawking the new guitar or auctioning off guitars on Ebay like he did in 2004. While on the other hand, if he really needs money or was that greedy, then why doesn’t he just release all this stuff from the vault. I mean let’s face it as frustrated as most of us all are, we would still snag all that unreleased stuff up as soon as it came out!

  • Andy

    Imho, this was allways the worst part about being a VH-fan. “Oh! We got this, that and the other-thing but that footage is just gonna gather dust. But we thought you’d like to know”.

  • Erick

    Good and very interesting article. Thanks VHND!

    I hope someone finds or EVH releases this footage.

    I watch “Hear about it later” almost on a daily basis. The footage is just great and it sounds so live. What a band!

  • DANOOOSH

    IF VAN HALEN DOES NOT LET US HAVE IT WITH BOTH BARELLS THIS SUMMER ,I FOR ONE, WILL BE VERY DISSAPOINTED..I COULD SEE ED JUST RECORDING ONE OR MAYBE TWO NEW TUNES WITH ROTH AND THEN TOURING WITH ONE OR TWO NEW TUNES AND THE OLD STUFF THEY DIDNT PLAY LAST TIME..WE HAVENT HEARD FROM ROTH IN FOREVER!!WHERE ARE YOU DAVE..??

  • alexandre

    unchained live in Oakland 1981: best live video ever!!!

  • theREALchris

    Danoosh…if you don’t find your damn CAPS LOCK key, then I will be “very dissapointed.”

  • SirFrankenberry

    Cool videos. Seen these 3 a million times. Always sticks in
    my head when Edward f’s up and comes in too soon with the first verse in “Unchained”. The rest of the band never misses a beat though and keeps him on track.

  • Kayzer Sozay

    “In a recent interview Edward Van Halen has mentioned that the band has a stockpile of footage that remains unreleased.”

    Hmmm… where have we heard this one before? C’MON ED! Do something…anything!

  • Bob

    Yeah c’mon Ed give US a break! It’s like cracking the Van-Da Vinci-Halen code with those guys. They send mixed signals out there and bam! oh we’re not gonna do that.I’ve been a Halen fan since day 1 as much as everyone on here has at some point in time but in the later years it has just gotten weird and i have to say they have lost some of their luster with me.They always put me in a good mood when i hear them but the latest news of them has really been turning me off. Also why not give us what alot of us haven’t saw? Not all of us could afford tickets to your concerts in this economical and financially hard time when we really wanted to! So once again C’mon Ed, GIVE US A BREAK!

  • WACF80

    The energy was amazing. I miss Mikey!
    This is my favorite-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzTFFuEOJj4

  • dave

    Because of my age, I came into VH a little later. My first concert was 1983 at the Hollywood Sportatorium in South Florida. $10 for GREAT seats. It is, was, and forever will be the greatest show I’ve ever seen. I’d kill for a full length dvd of any of their concerts with Dave. They didn’t film the whole show because of expense? Huh? They used to brag about how many semi’s it took to drag their shit around. They are already filming parts of a show, how much could it cost to film the whole thing? That’s just stupid. If Ed snorted a little less coke, then maybe he could have afforded more film. If Dave bought a few less condoms…..LOVE YA DAVE!

  • David Alexander

    Edward, get off your as* or have Matt your tech go through that stuff and get it over with.

    A. And if you dont know how to do it, you get your assitant to get it all transferred to video.

    B. Take the time to sit and watch the stuff. Make three groups, 1. keeper 2. maybe 3. no

    C. Take a break, then come back and work on putting together the keepers and maybes (maybes should be used as dvd extras), and get a video editor to get it all together.

    If you’re too busy or lazy, hell Ill go through it for you.

    And you hit the ground runnin’

    David Alexander
    Warner Bros,
    Burbank, Ca

  • Big Al

    theREALchris,

    GREAT POST!!!! The best so far!!!!!

  • pushtoshove

    Just sending props out to ‘theRealchris’……Hey Danoosh…Not trying to attack you bud , But laying off the caps’ for a while would really be cool….anyways , Best live footage of Van Halen . Alex is on fire , Mikey is killing it on bass , Ed is playing the best Ive ever heard him live on this material and Roth…A frigging Running jumping scissor kick that’s about 9 feet high and singing pretty damn good at the same time ( well , in the same song ) This is the reason I got into music

  • Chris Van Harley

    Ladies and Gentlemen, that was a f&*kin Rock Show!
    I was so amped when I saw the headline to. Thought this was it. Can you imagine cracking an ice cold beer, cranking up the surround sound and watching this concert in full on DVD? Or how about even a bolder statement, the last tour on Blu Ray? From what Michael Anthony says, Alex’s poitn of view is “Would Led Zeppelin release stuff like that”. The answer sir is Yes. Hey VH, you want to rake in even more money? Release this stuff and I will fork out some serious jack. Come on Ed, its what us lifelong VH fans dream of.

  • Rocko

    If they do release The Fair Warning 1991 Oakland Concert Vid , I’ll buy it but I also hope that they’ll release the 2007-2008 Tour as well. The Two Best of VH Roth Era’s Concert tours.

  • Erick

    Think about it, how much would we be willing to pay for the full Oakland concert on DVD packed in a fancy box with some exclusive photo’s?

  • Pete

    I have a full concert on my computer from around this time. Romeo Delight starts off the show in San Bernadino and Dave forgets the “fn” words. There is only a small break in video during the time Dave is strumming his guitar and getting ready to sing Ice Cream Man. I don’t know if this is the same tour for sure but its over an hour and very intertaining!

  • Bud

    We all be waiting just as long for new music as we have been for the release of the 1981 show. It aint gonna happen.

  • sturodrive

    notice how on youtube they just started taking down all the 78 promos. hopefully that might meen something. think of all the bootlegs sold. all the money they lost out on.

  • pushtoshove

    That was the US” festival Pete…Not as good,not nearly as good as the 81 show

  • Pilskin

    Danoosh you’re 100% correct.

    If the footage from 1981 wasn’t that great – that’s ok with us. The only people who are going to buy it are us. There aren’t going to be any new fans (to impress anymore, just us old die-hards.) All the kids these days are all pumped about what Van Halen is doing.. LOL.

  • Dan

    Eddie is awesome, Van Halen is awesome, but they suck at the same time. So much drama and unnecessary aggravation. Iron Maiden is the real deal. They are Entertaining and they give their fans plenty. I am not sure what is up VH’s ass, but frankly tired of it. They have so much potential material to keep us entertained until something happens with an album. There is no business plan here. Eddie acts as if we are not worthy of their time. Van Halen is a great band, but without their fans, no need for a career. The garage door would be their biggest audience and perhaps the water heater as well. No need to gripe or whine about it. There is other bands who would love our attention.

  • Bo-Sox

    They should release a live album with DLR, I would prefer and old show like the 1981 Oakland show. Hell Sammy got a live album with VH it is only fair that we should get a DLR one too. Release it along with new material, a double album. I bet it would beat Metallica’s new album in terms of sales and definately beat GNR latest. The marketing aspect alone could be killer. Albums do not sell like they used too, you need a sweat angle. They have it…as long as they have master tapes of the old shows.

  • Robert

    I had the luck of being at all three 1981 Oakland concerts. I had graduated from high school in Sacramento just one week earlier and VH was a perfect way to start of my 18th summer.

    The footage is from the third night’s show, according to an old DLR interview I once saw. He said the first night they didn’t play well (not true, they kicked ass!) and the second night the audio recording got botched up some how. But that everything worked for the third night’s efforts.

    I remember all three shows being filming by a legit film crew, not one of Roth’s bogus crews he used to trick the crowd into getting all revved up. (He used to have a roadie come out with an empty camera and pretend to film the crowd for a concert movie they were supposedly making. Roth/VH has talked about this in a few interviews.) I know the film crew was legit because I could see them changing the film magazine on the side of the stage. (My uncle worked in the movie biz and I’ve watched him change film on his old 16mm camera several times.)

    I also remember the film crew all over the place on the first night, but less so on the other nights. I definitely remember them filming Ed’s solo because I remember thinking the camera man was one lucky SOB to be on stage standing 10 feet away from Ed.

    My guess is that there is more footage laying around somewhere because that film crew was there for more than just three songs. If you look at one of the three Oakland videos (I forget which one), the song starts off with the giant VH blinking light, then segues into a shot of Ed on stage. That huge blinking VH light was the overhead lighting truss. At the end of the show, the light truss lowered and swung 90 degrees to the front of the stage, and then started flashing the VH logo, which lit up the entire arena. It was a cool thing and caught everyone in the crowd by surprise (talk about leaving the crowd wanting more!).

    So, if the film crew captured the very end of the show and mixed in that footage to one of the other videos released by Warner Bros, you know damn well they shot a lot of footage. In other words, if they only filmed those three songs that we all know, then explain why there is footage from the end of the show. They filmed a lot. That’s the answer.

    I remember going out to eat at Denny’s after the third show. Me and my two friends had on our new VH concert shirts, and these two other guys, maybe 30 years old, said, “Oh fuck, VH was tonight?! Dude, we missed it!” I thought to myself, “How the fuck can you so lame to miss a VH show?! I was anticipating that show for the six weeks before the concert!”

    On a side note, I saw VH play the very same Oakland Arena in December 2007. I hadn’t been there in 25 years. It seemed smaller than it looks in the 1981 footage, and the show was a little less energetic (not a criticism). The crowd was really into it though. But nothing matched the crowd of that 1981 show. That crowd was so loud that I could not hear what show VH was playing until the end of the first number. All three nights were like that. Those shows are near the top of my list of dates/places/people I’d want to revisit if I could. It was that magical. I still feel lucky to have been a part of it.

  • http://vhnd JCN

    check out 2Dorks.com… Joe Walsh is playing a EBMM EVH

  • stew

    Erick I’d pay up to $200.00 for the Oakland dvd ! I’m a Van Halen Groupie!!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/radio5150 Eric

    If they can’t release the video, give us the concert on audio then. I wouldn’t mind that at all. I transferred the Live Without A Net DVD to mp3 format and listen to it all the time in my car and on my bike.

  • DANOOOSH

    ed goes on a 10 year high atus and then turns around,gets back together with dave,a pulls off a 93 million dollar tour.no other fans in the world would have stuck around a long as we have..ed is a thankless …we cant even have the dvd (because we already saw it)..thse guys had better do something soon or they will lose what fans they have left.ed has done everthing possible to kill his fan base..yet were still here.why?

  • DANOOOSH

    EDVH , never had a real job,has no financial concerns, never punched a time clock,its a good thing the rest of the world doesnt live at eds pace..he just doesnt get it..when were born,we only have so many heartbeats,i think mine are going to run out before ed wakes up….

  • theREALchris

    Danoosh!!!! Sweet Jesus, he found the key! :) But I have to say….I myself would love to go on a “high atus.” It sounds like a fucking party, man! And that footage kicked a little old school ass just the way it should. Somebody mentioned how Ed comes in too early on Unchained (for the verse) and how cool it all worked out, and I totally agree. VH please release another Live Album!!!

  • http://www.501stlegion.org skutch

    I’m sure most of the people who visit this site have a jillion bootlegs already. I have probably 50 audios and 10 videos from ’84 and before. Don’t wait for Ed to release stuff. Find it yourself. :)

  • kauaisrfr

    This was the best tour. I have seen them over 20 times now since the Anahiem Ca show in 1978 with the fake parachute and with Sammy Hagar opening and black sabbath (with ozzy) and Boston headlining. I have incredible front row pictures (with a 110mm camera)
    from the famed “home ground” night. The first show in LA 6/19/81 sports arena after the oakland show. We even made a “WELCOME HOME” banner that Dave held up during Mean streets. It was the pinnacle of VH Live. We did run into Cynthia Fox of the old KMET radio station (which was 94.7fm not 98.7).The opening of the show with “on Fire” set the pace and it never letup till the end. The best VH show period.

  • SCAR

    Thanks for the correction kauaisrfr. I was going off of a 28 year old memory fart. I’m surprised I didn’t say KLOS. Thanks again.

  • DANOOOSH

    ed knows he could fart into a microphone and we would buy it..they could tour 5 years from now just on the fair warning album and turn another 93 million.thats why he,s in no rush…dave repeatedly said before the last years tour that they were a new band…yeah right, there a new band that hasnt released a single friggin tune.

  • DANOOOSH

    scar,erick.,ben,all you diehards..how long can we hang on to the dream??

  • DANOOOSH

    dream another dream,the dream is over.

  • theREALchris

    Wow, for a die hard Daver you cetainly picked an obscure Van Hagar tune to quote.

  • pushtoshove

    Easy Big C…

  • theREALchris

    Oh, I mean no harm. Just being annoying.